Speed TFs make me sad

I play for fun.

Why is there even an argument here?

There are good reasons for doing a "slow" run of a TF: shards, xp, purple drops, purity of the game.

There are good reasons for doing a speed run of a TF: components, more end rewards, mini-game "competition".

The game allows rewards for both styles, so why do we care when someone else does it differently than we do? There is room enough for all.

Speed runs get me 20 minutes of combat, 20 minutes of standing around, maybe 1 shard, and the end reward.

A standard run gets me 90 minutes of combat, as much as 8 shards, and the end reward.

I know which of those I consider the better Reward/Time.

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Sometimes I like speed runs, especially certain TFs. They're faster (so I can actually do one without needing 2 hours free) and some TFs can get awfully repetitive so by the time I've taken down my 500th Crey or Council goon the idea of just stealthing a couple missions sounds pretty good.

That said, Lady Gray is one that I absolutely hate speed running unless I'm on a villain. I'm not really a full blown RPer but I do like to act "in character" and letting hostages get beaten down by Rikti just to fail the mission and move on annoys me to no end unless I'm on a villain character.

Yeah. In certain TFs, it's common for just a few people to race to particular places and TP other folks. This is very common in the LGTF, because the drones see through all stealth, and Rikti spawns are mez-heavy. This often leads to the "hard" characters racing through and teleporting the "squishy" ones. I have to say, though, it's rare for me to see folks doing it one person at a time. Usually someone has Assemble the Team.

My intention was not to start an argument, but to better understand a playstyle that seemed redundant and boring. I've heard from a variety of speed TFers on this thread, and certainly see their points, and do not begrudge their fun one bit. My assumption that people would do what you call "slow" runs stems from the fact that they made no indication that speed was their intention. If a TF is organized with no qualifiers, I assumed it would be run as intended by the devs. I realize now that is not the case, and I will be sure in the future that when I accept a TF invite, I understand the team's intentions and goals. I never insinuiated that speed TFs were wrong, I just sought a better understanding of the speed mentality. My sincere apologies if I came off as anything but inquisitive.

I don't like speed runs, but then I dislike TFs in general, because as a story experience they are absolute failures, since noone other than the team leader actually gets most of the narrative. This is particularly annoying for those TFs that are the culmination of an entire zone worth of story arcs - Hess, Caverns of Transcendance, Katie, and arguably the LGTF and ITF.

(Or for that matter they're the only reason for the zone to exist - i.e. all the Shadow Shard TFs.)

I still want - always have, always will - an option to solo these. I couldn't care less about the reward so if I get 0 merits or whatever for completing one solo that's fine by me. Not that I'd do it all the time, but at least once, just once, I'd like to be able to follow the plot of a TF while I was running it, rather than having to read up on the wiki afterwards to find out what I just did.

What I hate about speeds is that leaders think everyone has stealth of Superspeed. Squishies are getting killed just trying to keep up.

As others have mentioned; it's about the reward for me (and most likely others).

When I'm doing it for 'fun' I don't mind kill-alls/kill-most. But now that there is that shiny count badge of "help out with the weekly strike targets 50 times"....I "have to have it" as soon as possible.

So...if I'm doing it only for the reward (counting towards the badge) I want to do it as fast as possible; nothing else matters to my main toon (he doesn't need shards or merits or xp (since he's 50 ) or whatever....just want that badge).


So when I can do an LGTF in 22 mins (fastest I've ever done it)...yeah...I'd rather do speed runs of a TF/SF than kill-most since that is usually anywhere from 3-5x slower than a speed run.



What I 'hate' is (now it's not too bad because LGTF isn't the strike target) when people say "speed LGTF" and then I join and we start out and then...nope it's not a speed TF....it's a kill-most Ugh....1.5 hours later....false advertisement! :P

I posted this in the 'things I don't like about alpha strike' thread, but it seems more appropriate here.

I also think it's interesting that, in a quick perusal of the thread, the folks who don't like speed runs largely focus on how good the rewards are for killing enemies and how the folks who prefer speed runs are misguided. Who's the farmer again?