Help a newbie! Fire/Cold corr build :)
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black_barrier,
Posted on: 2009-12-01 13:39 in Everything about PvP
my build as soon as i decide to run a respec trial and raise a couple of mill inf.
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hmm...Thank you. My problem currently is that I have very limited funds on redside (about 200 mil or so), and I don't have any purples on redside yet, but I will try to work with something similar. Appreciated.
EDIT: Currently I'm sticking to Arena matches BTW.. If that makes any difference. At least till I get a solid build going and get the hang of the whole PvP thing.
In terms of mechanics, arena is about a million times better than the zone, and that's often the case in the quality of players as well - leaving the zone also tends to leave many of the really bad players behind, since they're almost exclusively zone.
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Originally Posted by macskull
In terms of mechanics, arena is about a million times better than the zone, and that's often the case in the quality of players as well - leaving the zone also tends to leave many of the really bad players behind, since they're almost exclusively zone.
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So I hear. That is precisely why I'm not going to any PvP zone anytime soon. Although I'm not entirely sure what you mean by the Arena being better in terms of mechanics. Does Arena function differently than regular PvP zones? Aside from the fact that you can set rules, obviously.
EDIT: On a side note... I modified my build. Took the idea from Black Barrier's build and tried to follow the same principles within my own fund limitations. A few tryout matches at the Arena today, I found out that with Focused Accuracy and Tactics running I could hit stuff about 2/3rds of the time with about a 40% Accuracy boost in the powers themselves. So I have a lot of focus on accuracy in my build... I read somewhere that on corruptors you need to aim for 1500 HP minimum.. I got up to like 1485 lol. The build also includes about 20% damage bonus, and 45% Recharge bonus. This is what I came up with:
P.S: I skipped Phase Shift on purpose; no phase shift for me please. Besides, I like the resistances that Tactics and Assault provide :P
Vengeance is only there as a place holder for the LotG. I doubt I'd get chances to use it, at least no where often.
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Mechanically, I mean the ability to turn off heal decay and travel suppression. Those were both changes implemented to "balance" builds and PvP in general but all they did was put more emphasis onto damage spam and quick-recharging attacks (to see what I mean, try going up against an EM Blaster in an open area in zone without any real support and see how long you last before you've got to phase or Hibernate). Arena matches are generally run with those options off because, quite frankly, they suck. I don't know of any other game that has anything like heal decay, because it just becomes a contest to decide who can deal the most damage fastest.
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Originally Posted by SoulSpark
So I hear. That is precisely why I'm not going to any PvP zone anytime soon. Although I'm not entirely sure what you mean by the Arena being better in terms of mechanics. Does Arena function differently than regular PvP zones? Aside from the fact that you can set rules, obviously.
EDIT: On a side note... I modified my build. Took the idea from Black Barrier's build and tried to follow the same principles within my own fund limitations. A few tryout matches at the Arena today, I found out that with Focused Accuracy and Tactics running I could hit stuff about 2/3rds of the time with about a 40% Accuracy boost in the powers themselves. So I have a lot of focus on accuracy in my build... I read somewhere that on corruptors you need to aim for 1500 HP minimum.. I got up to like 1485 lol. The build also includes about 20% damage bonus, and 45% Recharge bonus. This is what I came up with: P.S: I skipped Phase Shift on purpose; no phase shift for me please. Besides, I like the resistances that Tactics and Assault provide :P Vengeance is only there as a place holder for the LotG. I doubt I'd get chances to use it, at least no where often. |
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Aah. I see. And I agree, at least about the Travel supression part. I tried a few fights with Travel supressed, it was lol material. Not sure about heal Decay yet, I've yet to play a character with healing abilities in PvP.
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Originally Posted by SoulSpark
Aah. I see. And I agree, at least about the Travel supression part. I tried a few fights with Travel supressed, it was lol material. Not sure about heal Decay yet, I've yet to play a character with healing abilities in PvP.
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Based on DR, I think if whatever healing power being used recharges in under 8 seconds, you start getting back limiting returns. It seems like the same mechanics of when the devs implemeted ED...your return after slotting the same enhancement 3x is negligible.
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try dark blast under heal decay sometime if you want to get raged.|
Originally Posted by CrazyJerseyan
Its pretty crazy...
Based on DR, I think if whatever healing power being used recharges in under 8 seconds, you start getting back limiting returns. It seems like the same mechanics of when the devs implemeted ED...your return after slotting the same enhancement 3x is negligible. |
your heavy hitter heals you for less than a green inspiration and it heal suppresses you. so awesome.
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lol...word.|
Originally Posted by black_barrier
try dark blast under heal decay sometime if you want to get raged.
your heavy hitter heals you for less than a green inspiration and it heal suppresses you. so awesome. |
Even with DR, I still like this game more than WoW.
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Any comments on my updated build?
Are the hold procs of any benefits in PvP? Or should I just replace them with something else? Are there any procs that I will want to look for?
I would really appreciate the help.
if you are refusing to take a phase power (be it phase or hiber) for conceptual reasons, i cannot take you seriously.
You should drop your current patron and take the hibernate one since the shark attack from that set deals lots of damage. And you don't really need tatics because you shouldn't have a problem hiting pepople once your debuff hits them. You should aim and then infrigate them. I wouldn't put procs in infrigate too because it just doesn't recharge that fast. If you take snow storm then you don't have to slot it just use that default 1 slot and use the other slot elsewhere. Snow storm is not that good anymore cause you can't slow people if they have SS. I took the Aid Self pool.
You should proc flares with Apoc chance for negative and put the pvp range proc in there as well if you can since flares is such a fast recharge.
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Not at all. The reason I didn't take Hibernate is because I want FA and a Defence based epic shield (had this from your build and what I understood about PvP's DR and inherent boosts to resist). And the reason I skipped Phase Shift is really many. First of all I liked the resistances that Assault and Tactics gives. 2)The ToHit bonus that Tactics give is pretty decent, too. 3) I was being stupid.|
Originally Posted by black_barrier
if you are refusing to take a phase power (be it phase or hiber) for conceptual reasons, i cannot take you seriously.
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Now having played against decent mezzers (an Ill/Rad), I realized that those resists are pretty useless, especially the Taunt resist. And regretted not listening to you and taking Phase Shift from the get go.
Here's the latest version....
This one has Phase Shift, and actually has 1500 HP which is good...and recharge is better too thanks to being able to slot moer LotGs.
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here is a build that i came up with i switch snow storm out for ice shield because you can't really slow people anymore if they have ss. Plus it's easy to detoggle and casting time is too long. I switch web envelope for the cocoon because it's a hold and will drop toggles. If you could put Apoc chance for negative in flares then it would be great.
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Level 50 Magic Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Fire Blast
Secondary Power Set: Cold Domination
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Flares -- Apoc-Dam%(A), Dev'n-Hold%(3), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(3), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(5), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7)
Level 1: Infrigidate -- AnWeak-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(A), AnWeak-Acc/DefDeb(15), AnWeak-Acc/Rchg(17), LdyGrey-DefDeb(23), LdyGrey-DefDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(27), LdyGrey-DefDeb/Rchg(27)
Level 2: Fire Blast -- Dev'n-Hold%(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(7), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11)
Level 4: Ice Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 6: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 10: Grant Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13), RechRdx-I(13)
Level 14: Super Speed -- EndRdx-I(A), Run-I(15)
Level 16: Super Jump -- ULeap-Jump(A), ULeap-EndRdx(17), ULeap-Stlth(19)
Level 18: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(19)
Level 20: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(21), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(23), P'Shift-End%(25), P'Shift-EndMod(25)
Level 22: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 24: Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Arctic Fog -- Aegis-Psi/Status(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(29), EndRdx-I(31), S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(31), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(31), S'fstPrt-ResKB(33)
Level 28: Aim -- Rec'dRet-Pcptn(A), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(29), AdjTgt-Rchg(33), AdjTgt-ToHit(33), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(34), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(34)
Level 30: Blaze -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(37), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37)
Level 32: Benumb -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34), Acc-I(37), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 35: Sleet -- AnWeak-DefDeb(A), AnWeak-Acc/DefDeb(39), AnWeak-Acc/Rchg(39), AnWeak-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(39), AnWeak-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(40), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 38: Heat Loss -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(40), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(43), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(46), Efficacy-EndMod(46), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(48)
Level 41: Scorpion Shield -- S'dpty-Def(A), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(42), S'dpty-Def/Rchg(42), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Ksmt-ToHit+(43)
Level 44: Focused Accuracy -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(45), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(45), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(45), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(46), GSFC-Build%(50)
Level 47: Web Cocoon -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(48), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(48), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(50)
Level 49: Phase Shift -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Scourge
Really? SS cancels out slowing people? Well that sucks >_<
Then yeah, I'd guess switching it to a defence based power for more LotG holders would be a good idea then.. Thank you.
Okay, so... I've dabbled into PvP for the first time ever a few days ago. Had a few arena matches with SG members. And realized that it's actually pretty fun. I tried using different toons, but I got creamed on all of them lol. I have a Fire/Cold corruptor that I *believe* would be good for PvP with the great damage and debuffs it carries with it. One thing I can already say about the build..I would kill for a self heal, lol.
Anyways, I'm trying to throw together a quick PvP build for her. I realize Aid-Self is most probably a big No-no since it's interruptible.
So yeah, from what little understanding I have about PvP, I came up with this build.. Totally useless? Any good? Any advice appreciated.
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