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Quote:Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
So...let's see if I'm getting this correct.
If you spend enough money on your toon skill doesn't matter anymore? That's what you said in so many words.
Sorry, I'm gonna have to call bull**** on that one. A good player on a mediocre build will defeat a bad player on a good build consistently.
I'll be honest here. My builds SUCK in terms of competetive PvP, I don't have bilions to throw around, and I doubt I'd be inclined to spend it on a PvP toon if I did. I have fun in the zones because I got good enough at playing my toons to work around my build disadvantages.
I guess my priorities differ as far as what I look for in PvP. Having fun is FAR more important to me than pwning all. If I'm killing everyone in sight and getting bored, I'm gonna go do something else. Winning every fight does not necessarily equal fun for me. I enjoy a good fight in which I lose more than I enjoy stomping someone into the ground in seconds flat.
i only enjoy fights when people cry nerf on the opposite side.
but besides that, you're pretty much on point. -
four speed is the second coming of the lord of rads, ajax.
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Quote:cold/psi.Originally Posted by macskull
Even after Defenders get Hibernate (assuming that's what will happen since I can't think of a new power pool that would get Focused Accuracy that wouldn't be a clone of something they already have) Corruptors will still be better because of their higher damage, Scourge, and higher base HP (and therefore more mileage from +HP set bonuses). There will be more parity between the two but I don't think there will be many build combinations where a Defender would be preferred over a Corruptor.
if hiber is in a pool with powerboost or webnades.
otherwise, we are back to square 1.001.
if power mastery got focused acc though, that would basically make defenders 100% viable again. -
Quote:i dare you to be successful in pvp on a db/wp scrapper.Originally Posted by FourSpeed
If you're successful in pvp (however you
choose to play and define success), it's all good... Last I checked, it doesn't
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you're mostly wrong.
for all intents and purposes you recommended the i13+ equivalent of an i12 fire/dark corruptor.
furthermore, you have no intent on proving that a sonic/rad is a viable anything (not a team toon, not a solo toon, anything works in zone really because most people in this game are stupid...). -
Quote:i dont think you understood my point.Originally Posted by FourSpeed
Well, since you're all about stirring the pot here (which is fine by me),
then I'm guessing that 2 sonic/rads in the arena always end in a draw,
since by your definition, skill is now removed at this point.
So, how does this differ from fiteklub, and why would I care???
PS> that's largely a rhetorical question, since opinions and mileage vary,
and we all have our viewpoints. If you're successful in pvp (however you
choose to play and define success), it's all good... Last I checked, it doesn't
mandate or require a specific AT build, or cost outlay for that build.
Cheers,
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PPS> I'm fairly sure I've killed a sonic/rad before - but it was probably just
blind luck since I missed the memo that they're indestructible...
when you place a sonic/rad in one corner and something like an /elec dom or a psi/em on the other side, build matters enough for skill to become lolzy. -
Quote:Originally Posted by ConFlict
All this info is wrong. Boost range itslef will get you to were the steep dr curve is hitting range. I still slot at least one cent on my /em toons.have you ever popped aim in your life?Quote:Originally Posted by Galactor
I don't think range gets DR'ed. Your Acc prolly isn't going to be DR'ed. Your damage probably won't be DR'ed either.
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archery is really bad... you sure you dont have another 50 to toy with?
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Quote:actually, unless you're fighting a storm team, it practically is.Originally Posted by SkeetSkeet
Hiber is being talked about here like it's the equivalent of phase and it's really not.
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Quote:i dare you to 3v3 with a team like that on freedom.Originally Posted by Garent
REQUIRED huh? The last pvp tournament I participated in was a 3v3 and our team was a blaster, controller, and me as the defender. None of us had phase shift or hibernate, blaster had both SJ and SS, controller and I only had SS. We won every match, and had a total of three deaths.
you'd get shredded by any relatively competent 3v3 team.
that is a commentary on the skill of the people you were fighting, not your build.
edit: even better, join a kickball on a toon with no phase. -
Quote:no cause they deleted pwnz.Originally Posted by Sailboat
Can we get this moved to the PWNZ forum?
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Quote:exactly the point i was trying to make.Originally Posted by macskull
Why? You didn't when you posted. By your logic his numbers are as good as your own.
i love people that can't read between the lines. -
Quote:this is me caring.Originally Posted by Another_Fan
Well this thread has done something for me. I have a grater respect for the developers decisions in I13 and the goals they were shooting for.
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Quote:that's pretty good.Originally Posted by TrancEnding
Chasing down a Stalker on my Blaster and before I finish him off he Hibernates and says...
"lulz u fail"
if i stole that one, i'd have to make it a bind. -
Quote:you dont pvp in this game, shut the **** up before i shove my proverbial boot down your throat.Originally Posted by Another_Fan
Whatever you say
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this it's a 20% chance to proc every 10 secs or something like that.
anyways, the defense is not worth the price or even the slot in most builds if you plan on pvping with it. -
is that j-man, this j-man: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keLQaxDnlec
cause if it is, i'm just gonna assume that someone's still massively wounded. -
kinda funny watching PVE-ers talk about how to get people to PVP.
HEY GUIZE NEWS FLASH, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN I13. SOME PVER THOUGHT HE COULD MAKE PEOPLE PVP. WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG.
when catering to a pvp audience, you don't pull from inside the game. you market yourself to pvpers as a whole, not to lolzy soccer moms concerned with character progression and b movie story lines (catch the reference? good for you). -
Quote:aw man, that video of him killing a half-afk scrapper shows massive mf skills.Originally Posted by macskull
By the way, here are some of this guy's PvP videos.
anyways, yah, i remember this dude. this is the guy that said he could beat my fire/elec dom's face in on his tank, post pff nerf, so i messed with him in a lab map up to a tie. it was awesome how emo he got. like, think of spinezor getting emo over pre-nerf pff and multiply it by 10. -
Quote:i speak from personal experience in stating that i still have AE babies that I haven't IO'd or which sooner or later i will (mental count says 5 50's or near 50's.). AE farm products raised demand and it's gonna take a long long while for such demand to drop.Originally Posted by Black_Mute
I was on the side that thought the mission spawn size option for I16 would have dropped the price of purples because so many people would be generating them. I think what others have said is true though that the demand is just so high for them that the prices for purples have actually gone up. Also, to give some perspective that it's no impossible to do, I just finished buying five sets of five Panacea sets blueside (which is more expensive than redside because the demand is higher imo). I bought all of them at current prices. It took me a month or so and I had to strip a couple toons I didn't really play any longer for some IOs to sell, but I was able to do it (no I didn't buy inf for a gold farmer site).
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Quote:actually they do suck.Originally Posted by Garent
Defenders already easily hit the perception cap, and they don't suck in pvp.
and a defender has to sacrifice phase in order have a build with perception and the pools required in pvp: fitness + sj + ss.
there is nothing a defender can do that a troller or corruptor can't do better at this point.
i13 was so awesome. -
Quote:it's like a mini-version of -divine archery.Originally Posted by __Divine__
[Arena] [Death Perfectionist]: i/ll take all of u nubs
[Arena] [Messiah Magus]: awesome
Death Perfectionist has left the event. -
i'm sorta thinking that it might be a carry over from needing rage to hit nems pre-AE farms.
have you looked at the claw's numbers? -
AE XP was "bugged" during the last event...
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best change in the inherent would be a perception bonus per person in your team.
thereby allowing defenders to stop sucking in pvp.