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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba

Me, too. Running away isn't the only option. There's also faceplanting just like blasters do so well. Luckily, the stalker actually has real mitigation on top of those low base HP so he isn't nearly as fragile as his blaster cousin.

As I said, you're turning into the JB of the stalker world. You want your stalkers to have all the benefits of being a stalker but with none of the downsides just as JB wants all the benefits of tanker toughness but without the balance of having lower damage output.

If you want a low HP character with the ability to hide, placate and dish out extreme burst damage while terrorizing a spawn while doing so, you play a stalker. And you deal with low HP and low AoE output. If you can't handle playing the niche AT that holds a superior place in a niche area of the game, then don't play that farkin AT.

Stalker: Niche burst damage AT specifically built for PvP then reworked to make it slightly more accepted in normal team PvE

Brutes and scrappers: generalist damage dealers with enough mitigation to handle off tanking. Off-tanking can be described as "tanking enough for practically everything in the game when playing with competent teams."

Tanks: Niche damage soaker aggro magnet.

All four are balanced quite well for what they do. Give it up, stop being a JB.

Originally Posted by Siolfir

The FF +rech doesn't stack, but each target hit gives it a chance to fire, making it a lot more reliable in an AoE power compared to a single target one.

Originally Posted by Leo_G

This is contradictory, IMO. For the case of bosses falling too quickly to get off an AS, then don't. While it's a signature move of the Stalker, the AT isn't built around *needing* to use it to fulfill its role effectively which is a *good* thing. AS is a great extra omph available with the sacrifice of an AoE and the time to invest setting it up but you have other options.

For the case of bosses falling too slowly is the real conflict of argument. If you're on a team where the bosses will be resisting damage heavily, then all those AoEs will practically do nothing to those hard targets since the damage is spread and such an AoE focused team will have to invest END and animation time using ST attacks to handle those foes. This means:
A. There will be other targets to take out if the team has to turn focus on a single target.
B. There will be a boss to fight if they turn their focus on everything else except that single target.
C. Single Target focused builds, no matter if their damage is resisted or not, have either better burst (EM) or extreme DPS (MA) so those hard resistant targets still go down faster than an AoE build focusing on the hard target.

If your issue is that AS doesn't remove those hard targets quickly enough because they resist your attacks, that's an issue with damage type and enemy resists, not the Stalker AT.

Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba

Stalker: Melee blaster with mez protection and decent mitigation. If you don't like that, quit playing them.

Stalkers are balanced with the other melee ATs. They have tools to run away which keeps their squishy butts alive. They get the highest burst melee damage. They do better in PvP. They are working as intended.

So quit with your constant whining. You are rapidly becoming the Johnny Butane of the stalker world.

Originally Posted by MaHaBone23

The Scrapper-Brute-Tank relationship is very strange in this brave new world.

Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper

8x Empathy/Sonic Blast Defenders

Originally Posted by Toril

Did a quick search and didn't see anything on this so I figured I would ask and see.

Has anyone ever tried using Grant invis on a Force Field Generator? If so, did it work?

Originally Posted by Microcosm

Incorrect when on teams. Solo, sure (usually), but on teams the Stalker is superior in single target damage but usually still inferior in AoE capability (except for electric and maybe spines) which is the general problem since the vast majority of the game is AoE-centric.

Originally Posted by Siolfir

This thread has been copied from the beta section of the boards, which is why I'm not sure if the linked post from Castle in the OP is visible to everyone, but presumably it's still being looked at - so if you have any ideas, thoughts, or suggestions, feel free to contribute. The idea is to get input from the people that play Stalkers about what, if anything, they'd like to see.

You certainly don't have to, but if you haven't already looked at it you may want to at least skim through - not all of the suggestions were just "moar dmg plz kthxbai", I'm hoping to get some discussion about ways to improve the AT without completely homogenizing the melee ATs.

Originally Posted by Siolfir

I've been guilty of this myself (I could even link to a recent post of mine!) but DM actually does have an AoE in Shadow Maul, so it really should go into the "poor AoE" category instead of the "No AoE" category.