Stormfront_NA

You may have a point with the red side going wild buying blue side stuff, but instead of saying no, perhaps the reason that this phenomena would occur should be addressed.

If red side had decent pay-out in merits SFs, I bet availability would be better and thus both availability and prices would be more reasonable. Sadly red side has nothing that can compare to a Positron, Synapse, Sister, Citadel, Manticore and Numina in both complexity/simplicity and especially payout. The two decent payout TF/SF that a villain could do, were in fact co-op types, ITF and LGTF, and both have seen their merit rewards dropped. Frankly as a red player, I find no SF worth doing, from a merit perspective, I only do ITF and LGTFs with my villains.

Doing missions, oh well, you can only stomach so much of the Longbow before you are totally and completely burned-out. I also believe the Longbow as a threat group is over the top. In blue side, you have threat groups such as Malta, Freaks, CoT, Nemesis with each having a particular strength and weakness. Longbow seems to have it all (Malta Stealth, Freak Rez for Wardens, etc) where are the weaknesses for Longbow? Guess that is acceptable under the challenge category.

So at the end, red side has no practical way to generate salvage, recipies, or merits; which obviously is going to drive prices up, way up. No wonder there is no real PvP between blue and red...

For one, I would rather have devs fix the red side issues instead of merging the markets, but lets face it, it would be easier to just merge the markets.

When going Rogue occurs all my villains will go blue, clean-out the market, and then when they are properly IO set, maybe return to red side to do missions where 95% of them will be against the good ole boring Longbow, I guess their returning to red side is pointless if you think about it.

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Sue, aka Stormfront

I am not sure, I truly understand your reply, but consider the tanker axe power set, just about every attack has a knock-back/down ability. If one delves the various powers you see Knock-Down, Knock-Back, and Knock-Up. My experience is these side effects, tend to be quite consistent when fighting mobs, so I find it hard to believe that the Knock-Up component, for instance, to be less than a Mag 1 strength to it.

With regards to IO choices, I am after certain specific effects one can get from using IO sets (more % damage, quicker recharge, better accuracy, enhance defense, etc), the knock-back feature from the using of a set is not limited to only knock-back based IOs, in fact some ranged attacks have knock back features, which for a blasters is an excellent benefit. All I am suggesting is to look at the variety of IO sets, and those which has recipes that offer Knock-Back, have an alternate choice Knock-Down, for instance take Kinetic Combat, a melee IO with high melee defense, it has a Knock-back recipe; would be nice if it also had a Knock-Down recipe alternate choice.

Penny what I want is my powers that are Knock-down and Knock-up to remain so, and not be converted to Knock-Back when I use IO recipes such as Kinetic Combat for instance. Would love to have a means to convert powers from knock-back to knock down.

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Stormy

Its a good observation, but, (giggles) I said the zone would lock after the Hami is spawned; thus you and the organizers have plenty of time to form teams and switch alts around before going monster killing to spawn the Hami.

Normally, my experience in Champions, is that players do come to stay the entire event, not much issue with leaving to go eat lunch, etc. The most common issue is a DC for whatever reason and not being able to get back, because someone waiting outside took one's place. At times, it has been a key leader, and they can't get back.

I read a post if you leave to eat, for example, you should quit the team, so then that slot could open for a new player to enter the zone. That is a good idea, the only catch is the player's integrity in doing so. But maybe the team lead, could simply kick and fix that.

I proposed a way, not the way. The essential objective of this post is mainly to inform that an injustice does occur with this event, and that something should be done to prevent it.

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Sue

I tend to feel just the opposite from you about them, and actually feel kill all missions are a bore and weakness.

Truth be told, neither one of us is entirely right or wrong, its just a matter of perspective.

If you are leveling your alt, then the kill boss missions are bad from your perspective because a lot of exp is left out on the table.

If you are already 50 and you need the merits to afford the over priced recipies, then kill all are sheer waste of time and feel more like time sinks.

If you are doing it for the badges, then it cut both ways. Because if you need 100 vampirs, a kill all will guarantee you get the badge, had it been a kill the boss; that would guarantee you won't get the badge. On the other hand, you are looking for accolade class badges, then quick completions of missions is what you ideally want to get the accolade badge.

In the case of kill boss, the devs have nearly turned them into kill alls by default. For the boss is placed in very, very large rooms, which normally are composed of large rooms to begin with, I nick named those rooms "Verizon Room" cause you get to defeat the boss and guards, then forced to defeat his friends, family, cousins and folks who new somebody who saw Elvis. From a merit hunter perspective, being forced to defeat 60% of the mission because the boss in one of those Verizon rooms quite a bit annoying. Also add that these rooms have a good chance of being bugged as well, where one mob is spawned inside a wall or not, or during the fight it gets knocked into a wall and thus trapped and and potentially unhittable. its just a bad recipe for fun in general.

Now its rare in defeat bosses, where a player is so good, she can take down a mob set for 8 players alone, while possible its not common. My experience with kill boss, is one or more with stealth go search for the boss, ie, search for the verizon room, once the verizon room is located, a player activates "Assemble the Team" and then we go pound on the boss, guards, family, friends, and Elvis fans. Its not so quite or often a sit at entrance and the ticket is punched for you situation (I do recognize they do occur, but seldom).

I would think the essential problem with TFs now, is that the devs have worked other game incentives into them, and the different playing factions are colliding with each other. You seem to mainly use TFs to level, which is good and honorable. I use TFs for the merits, also good and honrable, and others do it for the badges (good and honorable too). The problem with these different end desires, the means each pursue to accomplish them are obviously different for very good practical reasons. I look at the normal TF, being a good mix of Kill Alls, fed ex, kill boss, hunts, to be a good compromise in general for all 3 factions. The problem occurs when the factions do not want to cooperate with each other, and the exp gatherers want to force the kill bosses into kill alls, etc. Nothing like conflicting interests, to add stress to the game.

Not sure what the right answer is, with regards to alleviating these game stresses, at one time almost no level 50 bothered with TFs after one pass or to help a friend get the associated badge. Thru the award of Merits, level 50s regaiend interest in doing TFs, which made it easier for those using TFs as a means to level to get into groups and more importantly groups with experienced players to learn and benefit from. Sadly the 50s went in for merits, not experience, and the lower than 50 went in for the experience; after all they want to get to 50 too.

From a compromise perspective the ratio of kill alls, kill bosses and hunts should be evenly distributed across TFs so the 3 factions can be addressed (exp, merit, badge).

Now talking about hunts, often what the hunts are for rarely has a badge associated with it, so maybe hunts need to go the way of the Dodo bird...

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Stormy

Thank you for the more elaborate explanation, it is informative. But based on your data, is my observation that Defender damage then is essentially at par with Tankers, if not slightly inferior?

If Defender damage is somewhat at par with Tanker, don't you think that is not quite right, and that Defender damage should be somewhere in the middle between tankers and blasters? After all the protections the tankers do receive are unconditional, the protections of defenders is very dependent in the debuff actually hitting and stacking to get the defensive effect; while this effect is pretty reliable against minions, it does greatly decrease as you engage tougher mobs such as EBs and AVs.

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Sue

I actually do go on the offensive when possible, but I don't have many attacks to begin with, for I do try to stock on team support abilities; then added to this is the pathetic damage Defenders do, so I was looking for ways to have other attacks, and perhaps have significantly rreasonable damage as well. So far if I gather correcly, Tank damage has a 20% reduction modifier to their damage compared to the no reduction of Blasters, a Defender has a 40% reduction to their damage. Frankly I thought the damage modifier was based on how much you sacrificed protections to have stronger hitting attacks; I can't understand how a Defender's damage could be made inferior to a Tanker's, unless I am mistaken Tankers do have much better damage resitance and defense abilities, and they have strong status effect resistances as well compared to the absolutely none of the Defender. Reason would indicate that Defenders should do more damage than a Tanker and less than a Blaster.

Stormy

It seems KB always goes against the player, when I get KB from a mob, it always knocks me towards the mob... Ha ha ha

Stormy