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Energy torrent is decent AoE and controlling attack, the chance of knockback if fairly high.

Conserve power is not even near-permanent, stamina is still a must.

I'm grabbing shurikens with my MA/Inv, and The hold from dark with my spine/regen, the only power that really makes the body pool useful is focused accuracy, and seeing as you're /SR you should have enough toggles draining your END already...

I'd say take shurikens, especially for the fact that so few people have them, and what's more cool than exploding shurikens?

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You are all correct bar 1 thing :P

Energy Torrent is a (long range) Cone but decent damage and control nonetheless.

Further, if you are SR, and plan to PvP, taking Focused Accuracy from the Body Mastery pool might be an idea. It gives +Perception. And from the tested numbers i've seen, Focused Accuracy + the SR +perception toggle (Focused Fighting/Senses?) should be able to see a stalker with hide + stealth from a decent range. Just an option you might want to consider for PvP

yeh, they just need to cut the prices in 1/5th of what they are now (or thereabouts).... or, multiply the prestige we earn per mob by 5 (or thereabouts :P) so that, a good SG can have a raidable base up and running shortly, and it shouldnt take more than a year for a REALLY active SG to have a full base will all the tingles.

As it stands now (US board numbers) in 5 years, you can gater around 95-105 mill prestige, and stay there, you cant overcome the interest (tax!!!) by this point. This is your prestige + the cost of you base. This leaves you VASTLY short of even the largest PLOT. somethings wrong here Cryptic/NCSoft!

someone in the US beat you to showing that prestige is flawed.

Calculating in rent, and what an SG CAN earn, the maximum value of all your belonging is soft-capped at 92 million i believe. so no one will ever be able to even afford the largest plot, as the rent gets larger than the amount of prestige an active SG can bring in, ill look up the thread for ya.

edit: he goes from earning 200k per day as an active SG, believing his is the most earning on its server.

for the link: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showf...art=1&vc=1

oh yeh, no dev ever replied in the thread......

All 'nova-type' powers (tier 9 blaster powers) are capped at the 16 AoE limit for them.

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Thanks to your feedback, we've changed the AOE values to:

Set a maximum number of targets that can be affected by most offensive powers:
Ranged AoE and Large PBAoE damage powers (like Nova), Ranged AoE and PBAoE Debuffs, Ranged AoE and PBAoE Controls powers are all set to 16.
Ranged cones, and Melee AoE (PBAoE) are set to 10.
Melee Cones are set to 5.
Taunts (including Tanker inherent Taunt - Gauntlet, aka 'PunchVoke') are set to 5.
Buffs are unaffected.

This thread is for you to provide feedback to the Devs on the above issues. You are allowed to post ONCE in this thread. Make it count! If you post more than one time - the extra posts will be removed.

If a dev responds this count will be reset.


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http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showf...=&fpart=1&vc=1

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Let me put it this way: I challenge you to find just ONE person who would be willing to go through the 12-hour slog called 'The Quaterfield TF' TWICE...

Gimme a call if you decide to do one of the other 3 TF's. I'll be on-line. Otherwise, concider me out.

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He's called Empath and i think 1 or 2 others had done it already aswell when we did it.

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I'm glad to hear this, SR have always been tricky against higher mobs compared to other defensive powers.

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Not just SR really, all DEF defenses were 'superior' to RES defence. This little fix (and how it should have ALWAYS worked, if one scales, so should the other) just balances it out a bit. sort of a big bugfix really.

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I'd ditch the 8 blasters and take 8 defenders or corruptors instead

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buffer overdose & buffer underrun ftw!

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Hmm, what potential DA buffs? I haven't heard anything...

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After all, they did boost scrapper MA (Mainly CAK) when they modified the set for stalkers.

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1 thing i would like to see....: LESS TOGGLES.

and if you still want to keep the toggles, lower CoF end cost and up its ToHitDebuff

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Actually, Empathy is a great controller secondary. What people say about being "too busy with healing to drop holds" is a load of [censored].

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was just phylosofising (whatever, you get the idea, im not english, sue me!) about it. i have no idea how busy with healing you will be in a [censored] team. But i guess you are right then.

The person saying rad sucks with knockback i dont agree with, having 2 rads puts 2 opponents out of the game. (well, mostly)

for something totally unrelated, how about a worst pentad team?

Scrapper: Claws/Invulnerability
Blaster: Archery/Fire Manipulation
Tank: Firey Aura/Battle Axe
Controller: X(maybe all bar mind and ill)/Trick Arrow or maybe Empathy (too busy healing for controlling stuff?)
Defender: Trick Arrow/Archery

Altho this team could probably beat the above teams hands down if just played good (given that the opposition are 'regular' players :P)

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Troller: Illusion / Empathy, with focus on healing/buffing with light control on the side.
Defender: FF / PSY Forcebubble, Dispertion Bubble and Detention Field, I dont really care that much about the rest.
Tanker: Ice / Nrg
Scrapper: Spines / SR
Blaster: Ice / Nrg



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The team is heavy on DEF, and altho DEF is better in PvP, isnt there still an abundance of +ToHit/+Acc powers? wouldnt putting in a sonics defender make it much more effective?

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Aye, I was about to say that I was thinking of a similar team but with a sonic instead. After some thought, though, I can see where Imaginary is coming from. With Force Bubble, it's not neccesary to protect the squishies with other powers as they're protected already. Detention Field basically reduces their 5 man team to a 4 man team and Dispertion Bubble gives the whole team mez protection (to a degree).

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Sonics get most of those.
Dispertion Bubble = Sonic Dispertion (just RES in stead of DEF)
Detention Field = Sonic Cage
And you get clarity for extra mez protection when needed. Also, -RES on foes (click power and a PBAoE ally toggle).

I think the main difference why i would go with sonics is the abundance of (like i said) ToHit and Acc buffs.

But i guess both could work very nicely.

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Best to activate them when you are stood right in the face of what you want to hit as they usually all score hits straight away then.

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I think this is really the only way to use them effectively, I have tried other methods, launching them then attacking and sometimes they're still hanging around trying to look pretty.

I just tend to think of them as another melee attack. I haven't had a chance to test the slotting on them as yet, damage definatly maybe acc and end reduction.

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Yeh, photon seekers should defo not be fired pre-attack, only in the middle of combat at point blank range. They have the IQ of a fried potato...

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Troller: Illusion / Empathy, with focus on healing/buffing with light control on the side.
Defender: FF / PSY Forcebubble, Dispertion Bubble and Detention Field, I dont really care that much about the rest.
Tanker: Ice / Nrg
Scrapper: Spines / SR
Blaster: Ice / Nrg



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The team is heavy on DEF, and altho DEF is better in PvP, isnt there still an abundance of +ToHit/+Acc powers? wouldnt putting in a sonics defender make it much more effective?

hmm

Scrapper: Broadsword or Dark Melee / Super Reflexes or Regeneration
Blaster: Ice Blast/Energy Manipulation
Tank: Stone Armor/Energy Melee
Controller: Illusion/Radiation Emission
Defender: Kinetics/Psionic Blast

Would work pretty sweet imho. Then again, i'm probably way off

DM/DA all the way... that's if you can learn to get along with its end costs

Quaterfield is reportedly the longest clocking in at 9-12 hours. Needless to say, we did it in 6 with a 7-man team .

So they don't HAVE to be long (altho 6 hours IS a bit hefty).

And it depends on which one you want to do, but i only need the 3rd.

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Have I missed something or has nobody reminded him to put debuffs on his DM attacks? It makes DM SOOOOOO much better, i love it as a power set good choice, soul drain is alot of fun but prepare for agro if you use it in a big mob.

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Erm, i tried this once, after ED came out with my freespec. and as soon as i got the chance, i took it out again. The effect at 50 is hardly noticable.

for the record, i slotted my attacks 1acc 3dam 2tohitdbff. Also running CoF 2end 2acc 2tohitdbff, the difference between slotting my attacks or not was marginal, i could only see it with herostats running. CoF on the other hand is a great power (altho its DA, and not DM)

Long story short, you are better off slotting for endrdx/rechrdx than tohitdbff in your DM attacks.

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i'll be there. after all, whats a photo of defiant if the Shift ain't on it.

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A good one?

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Somehow i expected someone to post that... no one really likes me... do they?

i guess i just better sod off.

*goes to sit in a corner and cry.

i'll be there. after all, whats a photo of defiant if the Shift ain't on it.

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See for my brute I always run CoD, and only turn CJ on when it gets bad, the +per, +def, Stealth all add up to make it one nice power. Would probably be the same if I was a scrapper

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oh yes, don't get me wrong, i loooove CoD, very good stealth power, +perc +stealth +def +immob protection and NO -SPD. but don't rely on it as your immob protection, as that part of it sucks (just like the +DEF)

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DA has no status protection (against holds, knockbacks etc) how are you managing? Have you gone, Jump kick->SJ->Acrobatics? Or another method? Cloak of Darkness does grant some resistance but its only a Mag1 (lowest) resistance, in PvP you'll need more. I have a regen main and I have been toggle dropped through Integration with ease. Not all the time, but when it happens its quick...

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No, DA has status protection agaist disorient, hold and sleep with Obsidian Shield.

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DAs status protection:
Obsidian Shield: Hold, Disorient, Sleep, Fear
Cloak of Darkness: Immobilize (and a crappy one at that.)

So most DAs pick the leaping pool
Combat Jumping: Immobilize (way better than CoD)
Acrobatics: Knockback/Knockdown, Hold (stacks with OS)

And obsidian shield also gives a nice 37.5% RES to psionic (base)

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just wondering whats best for solo 1 on 1 thats all

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nothing is. 1 on 1 is a rock/paper/scissors game. PvP cant be balanced 1 on 1 with the different ATs around. So it isnt

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yer i guess so, im thinkin more solo

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a solo controller will get slaugthered by pretty much 2 players if they can work together. he can only lock down 1 of em (with luck and the opponent not having BFs)

PvP 1 vs 1 is a rock/scissors/paper game, and can hardly be called fun. 8 vs 8 or even more is where the fun is at.

As a solo controller you are quite squishy, on 1 vs 1, you win some and you loose some.

1 vs 2+ is in 99% of the cases victory for the 2+ if they just work together.

gratz WE m8!