The only change to SR defence will be a reduction in aoe protection. The isse 7 changes simply mean defence will scale propery so it is more effective against higher level and higher ranking mobs.
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Well fair enough about the AoE defence being reduced because it is unusually high at the moment (comparing Evasion + Lucky with either Focused Fighting + Dodge or Focused Senses + Agile) so I'm guessing the AoE defence figures will match them?
So the defence will be more effective against higher level mobs? Don't get me wrong it'll be a wonderful boost for all SR scrappers, but is that change really necessary to the current system? SR Scrappers can avoid a lot of attacks but still have to know their limitations, wouldn't this sort of stretch it out of proportion?
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So the defence will be more effective against higher level mobs? Don't get me wrong it'll be a wonderful boost for all SR scrappers, but is that change really necessary to the current system? SR Scrappers can avoid a lot of attacks but still have to know their limitations, wouldn't this sort of stretch it out of proportion?
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Yes it bloody well is, note that the change applies to all defense as far as I know. Not just SR.
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So the defence will be more effective against higher level mobs? Don't get me wrong it'll be a wonderful boost for all SR scrappers, but is that change really necessary to the current system? SR Scrappers can avoid a lot of attacks but still have to know their limitations, wouldn't this sort of stretch it out of proportion?
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Yes it bloody well is, note that the change applies to all defense as far as I know. Not just SR.
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Ahhhh so it's for all defensive sets, that makes a lot of sense now, thanks I didn't know that 
The change is to how hit probability is calculated, so it affects any player defense buff or debuff and any mob accuracy buff or debuff.
It will, however, not affect PvP.
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The only reason the AoE defense is being reduced is that it was increased as a quick-and-dirty fix to improve SR's survivability. This is not required once the new defense scaling system comes in.
Interestingly, very high levels of defense seem to suffer under the I7 changes. Elude and MoG get slightly less effective, at least according to DrRock's little analysis program.
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The main boost I think is that defence will how be as good againts lieutanants and bosses as it is againts minions. The reasoning being that resistance powers don't suddenly give less percentage protection againts those and this is to match that.
Fair play to that then. The AoE defence was needed around the level 30 region as I personally had to face a lot of Nemesis during that time, but I'm glad defence scaling will sort that issue out.
Elude I feel is a bit overpowered and if it's going to be a little less effective I wouldn't mind that at all. MoG on the other hand, there's been a lot of Regen scrappers that either love it or hate it. It probably is seen as a panic button for most, but considering you're on low health already, should MoG really be less effective under the severe concenquences of the after effects?
I'm glad to hear this, SR have always been tricky against higher mobs compared to other defensive powers.
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I'm glad to hear this, SR have always been tricky against higher mobs compared to other defensive powers.
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Not just SR really, all DEF defenses were 'superior' to RES defence. This little fix (and how it should have ALWAYS worked, if one scales, so should the other) just balances it out a bit. sort of a big bugfix really.
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should MoG really be less effective under the severe concenquences of the after effects?
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Less effective is relative. I find MoG very effective when used in the right place. It isn't going to sufficiently less effective to be ineffective, and there are responses I can make to make it slightly better for me than it is now. Depends on your slotting.
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From what I gather, there will be a change in the defence scalings for SR, they will be increased in the next issue.
What?!
Am I the only one that thinks that SR is actually fine the way it is?!
I started my Scrapper just before Issue 5, I'm proud to say that I haven't deleted my first character and I've adapted to ED. Ever since ED did come out, it's helped me a lot in terms of slot allocation to my powers.
Right now I have a scrapper who I absolutely love. It'll happily run into groups of +1s/+2s without too much problems. He'll hardly get hit as it is. The only problem I have is enduerence, which is acceptable as you can't have a perfect scrapper. But the way the defence ratios are seem to be fine!
Elude in my oppinion is at a perfect balance at the moment. You can tank nearly everything BUT you still have to be careful of who you are fighting and you are far from invincible if you're in way over your heads. So now with this SR buff I'll be virtually be able to do a tanker's job for a good few minutes, which is enough to beat almost any AV.
What I fear the most is that SR will then become a popular choice for Scrapper and then seeing a lot more people using it, I love the fact that there are hardly any of us about in comparison to other scrappers (my biased view here is comparing it to the current popular choice: Regen). Popularity of the choice may even cause it to be "nerfed" at some point in the future to the point that it'll be worse then it is now and I really don't want that!
I really think SR should be left alone, but that is my oppinion and I welcome any other oppinions or viewpoints that I may not have taken in before.