PumBumbler

Looking at the numbers, it does look like CO did take a bite out of CoX. Just remember that for the longest time, the CO development team had full access to CoX technology and experience to draw from, and that Cryptic was the original developer of CoX, even if it is in name only today.

Obviously NCSoft and Paragon Studios were worried enough about CO drawing numbers away because they announced the various issues, gave early beta access and instituted the loyalty bonus program during the run up to CO's launch date and then beyond that when CO's launch date got delayed as well.

There's no telling what the numbers would have been like if CoX wasn't promoted in that fashion. Their recent promotional efforts could have blunted a larger drop than what we see here for the CO launch.

Your baseline is 4000 and not 0 to exaggerate the differences? If so and your max scale is 8000, don't you mean it is fluctuating between 15-20% then?

PS. the giant column isn't causing a distortion per se, it's just making the scale harder to interpret if you are trying to compare the other numbers.

PPS. It's kinda late and I have slept for about 22 hours or so, but since these are income statements, how are subscription fees being accounted for? Is the entire fee being factored at once or is it amortized over the life of the sub? Things like the loyalty subs bonuses would affect the numbers on a quarterly basis without know what the paying population is. Not sure what the Korean accounting rules are like and I'm too tired to dig through the statements.

Check out that thread again, someone asked the same question you did and there are a lot of answers coming back.

Another nugget:
I guess jerking off in local is fine...no wonder cho faps so much.

Hear what you want to hear. I don't even PvP myself but it's obvious that unless the ruleset was integrated and working well from the beginning any PvP rules changes makes it harder to get PvErs interested in the PvP game.

If you want to see it as being negative you should really take a look at the long term survival of the game itself and be a little less paranoid about who and what PvP is and does for MMOs and this game in particular.

1. If you think that players do not get better and more familiar with the game over time, then I suppose you will also believe that people will never get bored of running the same content over and over.

2. Players who are good at the PvE game will chew through content faster than the developers can ever make it.

3. AE hasn't been able to become the center of new content for a variety of reasons.

4. PvE players who reach the end game have nothing better to do but than to get bored and leave the game, even allowing for altitus.

5. PvP can be a creative outlet for players who have mastered the PvE game to find a more challenging opponent/game. PvP allows end game players to remain engaged within the game and not require mountains of new content to be made for them.

6. Increased barriers to PvP from the PvE game have thoroughly sidelined the PvP part of CoX.

PvP players can be hardcore players but that also means they are the antithesis of the casual player, they are the ones who will go all out and tend to be just a loyal base as the rest of the community, but one that doesn't scream for new content every issue (maybe every 2nd issue).

Therefore PvP should:

A. PvP play should minimize the amount of griefing and trash talk to allow players a decent experience even when they lose.

B. PvP rules need to be integrated with PvE rules such that making a decent PvE toon will also ensure a decent level of competitiveness within PvP. This doesn't mean forcing PvP rules into the PvE game but blending the rules so then PvP isn't horribly broken when using PvE rules or seem like an entirely foreign game.

C. PvP should not be seen as an adjunct only to an end game scenario but portrayed seamlessly within the game such that players get adequate exposure and learning to lessen the divide between PvE and PvP (that is currently a chasm)

Everything is about lowering the barrier to entry to fun and competitive play for PvP and PvE, where is the harm in that? No one was asking to make AP and KR into PvP zones, so if you want to jump right into the hyperbole mode and hop around like you have a broken wing you're more than welcome to.

I suppose if you want to bring up the tired old reason that PvP was never introduced with the game so somehow it has a lesser reason to be integrated within the game, we can always go back to non-IO, insta one-shot, City of Blasters rules.

And then we should take away Striga, Croatoa, Cimerora, New Faultline, RWZ, The Hollows, Trick Arrow/Arrow, Cold Domination, Shields, Dual Blades, Mental blast, Willpower, Sonic, Plant Control, capes, auras, badges, the Shadow Shard, Eden Trial, Exemping, SSK, level pacting, multiple builds, Peacebringers, Warshades, Epics, Ouroborous, Flashback, Auction Houses, Pocket D, Day Jobs, Vet rewards, all new costumes and emotes, wings, enhancement packs, architect entertainment, SG bases, global channels, merits of all kinds, and of course all the PvP zones and rewards and of course the entire City of Villains as well.

Because every single one of those items were not included with issue 1.

*Laughs at the Flea for falling for one of Pum's decoys while he hides in superior invisibility*

Freedom and Virtue seem to be duking it out over first place.

Justice is third most often, and then Champion although Guardian seemed busier than Champion over the holidays at times.

All this is based on the reverse order list (server load vs. head counts)

Seating the heatsink and using the correct amount of paste is the biggest trick to making sure your temps are correct. Do it wrong and it doesn't matter what super duper heatsink you buy, it'll run worse than the retail cheapo.

The towers have a little cover over them that's cosmetic before the tower appears proper. That little cover can hide a toon or a repairman. Standing within it with hotfeet running or pets ensures those pesky repair dudes get whacked as soon as they spawn, even if hidden.

I've seen repairmen summoned right at the point of the tower's defeat. If you don't notice them, they take a second or two to zone in and your team could have moved on already. I always pause for a couple of seconds to make sure no repairmen are in the process of being summoned or got knocked back before moving to the next tower.

You have to read the thread in order to lern2textfight.

More deelishus quotes:

Looks like not everyone went to Freedom for PvP. Guess Justice and Freedom PvPers still have a thing to learn about being true warriors.

All PvP should work this way.

PS. Triumph is way ahead of us already on learning the sekrits of text fighting.

I now realize I am a textfighting nub.

If you wait by the RV tram beside the Infected, all the people eventually go there to take the tram to Freedom.

I assign you to assassinate Quatermain while he is skiing the slopes. That guy lives for RP.

Just count on many mito aggro if you use it to rez a wipe. It's pretty common for a HT rezzer to get face planted right after using it.

Clothed or unclothed?