Jharber

OK cool tym, I obviously just did not notice it before. TYVM!

Sooo, once again, was it always there or did they just add it? I do not remember seeing it before? But maybe I just did not notice lol?

I don't remember Caltrops having a mag 50 fear? sheesh! Was it always there or did they just add that?

Anyone have an answer for this? Or just their own theory? I would just like to hear opinions about having buffs (example thermal with buffs/heals) or Debuffs (example Dark Miasma with Debuffs/Heals) is better end game? Please just use Mastermind secondaries as examples since this is based around Masterminds and just wondering which is technically better in the end. TYVM!

I just put this together and was wondering what people thought? It seems decent enough to me, but maybe not. I would like to see what other people think would work better or what they might change. TYVM.

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.703
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Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Demon Summoning
Secondary Power Set: Thermal Radiation
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Summon Demonlings -- U'Loyal-Acc/Dmg(A), CmdPres-Acc/Dmg(17), BriL'shp-Acc/Dmg(17), EdctM'r-Acc/Dmg(34)
Level 1: Warmth -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(3), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(3), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Rchg(7)
Level 2: Lash -- F'dSmite-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), KntkC'bat-Knock%(33), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg(48)
Level 4: Fire Shield -- ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(5), ResDam-I(5), EndRdx-I(46)
Level 6: Enchant Demon -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Cauterize -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(9), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(9), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Dct'dW-Heal(15)
Level 10: Plasma Shield -- ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(11), ResDam-I(11), EndRdx-I(48)
Level 12: Summon Demons -- U'Loyal-Acc/Dmg(A), CmdPres-Acc/Dmg(13), BriL'shp-Acc/Dmg(13), EdctM'r-Acc/Dmg(34), ResDam-I(37), ResDam-I(37)
Level 14: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 16: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(33)
Level 18: Hell on Earth -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(19), C'Arms-+Def(Pets)(19), ExRmnt-+Res(Pets)(31), EdctM'r-PetDef(31), SvgnRt-PetResDam(31)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(21), P'Shift-EndMod(21), P'Shift-End%(33)
Level 22: Combat Jumping -- Krma-ResKB(A), Ksmt-ToHit+(23), LkGmblr-Rchg+(23)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 26: Summon Demon Prince -- U'Loyal-Acc/Dmg(A), CmdPres-Acc/Dmg(27), BriL'shp-Acc/Dmg(27), EdctM'r-Acc/Dmg(29), S'bndAl-Build%(37)
Level 28: Forge -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29), ToHit-I(40), ToHit-I(43), EndRdx-I(43), EndRdx-I(43)
Level 30: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 32: Abyssal Empowerment -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Heat Exhaustion -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(36), RechRdx-I(36), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 38: Melt Armor -- Achilles-ResDeb%(A), ShldBrk-DefDeb(39), ShldBrk-Acc/DefDeb(39), ShldBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(39), ShldBrk-Acc/Rchg(40), ShldBrk-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 41: Dark Embrace -- ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(42), ResDam-I(42), EndRdx-I(42)
Level 44: Oppressive Gloom -- Amaze-Stun(A), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(45), Amaze-ToHitDeb%(45), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(45), Amaze-Acc/Rchg(46), Stpfy-KB%(46)
Level 47: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(48)
Level 49: Tactics -- ToHit-I(A), ToHit-I(50), EndRdx-I(50), EndRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Supremacy
Level 6: Ninja Run

I just made something quick like this, but it seems kinda crappy. I don't think I built it correctly.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.621
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Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite -- Acc-I:25(A), Dmg-I:25(7), Dmg-I:25(9), EndRdx-I:25(9)
Level 1: Deflection -- DefBuff-I:25(A), DefBuff-I:25(3), DefBuff-I:25(3), ResDam-I:25(5), ResDam-I:25(5), ResDam-I:25(7)
Level 2: Shadow Maul -- Acc-I:25(A), Dmg-I:25(11), Dmg-I:25(11), EndRdx-I:25(13)
Level 4: Battle Agility -- DefBuff-I:25(A), DefBuff-I:25(13), DefBuff-I:25(15), EndRdx-I:25(46)
Level 6: Hurdle -- Jump-I:25(A)
Level 8: Siphon Life -- Theft-Acc/Heal:25(A), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Heal:25(15), Theft-Heal/Rchg:25(17), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx:25(17), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:25(19)
Level 10: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I:25(A), RechRdx-I:25(19)
Level 12: Boxing -- Acc-I:25(A), Dmg-I:25(21), Dmg-I:25(21), EndRdx-I:25(23)
Level 14: Tough -- ResDam-I:25(A), ResDam-I:25(23), ResDam-I:25(25), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:25(25), EndRdx-I:25(46)
Level 16: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I:25(A)
Level 18: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+:25(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:30(27)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I:25(A), EndMod-I:25(27), EndMod-I:25(29), P'Shift-End%:25(29)
Level 22: Weave -- DefBuff-I:25(A), LkGmblr-Def:25(31), LkGmblr-Rchg+:25(31), EndRdx-I:25(46)
Level 24: Phalanx Fighting -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:25(A), Ksmt-ToHit+:25(31)
Level 26: Soul Drain -- Acc-I:25(A), Dmg-I:25(39), Dmg-I:25(40), RechRdx-I:25(40), RechRdx-I:25(40), EndRdx-I:25(48)
Level 28: True Grit -- ResDam-I:25(A), ResDam-I:25(33), ResDam-I:25(33), Heal-I:25(33), Heal-I:25(34), Heal-I:25(34)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:25(A), RechRdx-I:25(34), RechRdx-I:25(36)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- Acc-I:25(A), Dmg-I:25(36), Dmg-I:25(36), EndRdx-I:25(37)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Acc-I:25(A), Dmg-I:25(37), Dmg-I:25(37), EndRdx-I:25(39), RechRdx-I:25(39), RechRdx-I:25(50)
Level 38: Dark Consumption -- Acc-I:25(A), Dmg-I:25(43), Dmg-I:25(43), EndMod-I:25(43), EndMod-I:25(45)
Level 41: Focused Accuracy -- ToHit-I:25(A), ToHit-I:25(42), EndRdx-I:25(42), EndRdx-I:25(42)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- EndMod-I:25(A), EndMod-I:25(45), EndMod-I:25(45)
Level 47: Maneuvers -- DefBuff-I:25(A), DefBuff-I:25(48), EndRdx-I:25(48)
Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I:25(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:

• 3% Defense(Smashing)
• 3% Defense(Lethal)
• 3% Defense(Fire)
• 3% Defense(Cold)
• 3% Defense(Energy)
• 3% Defense(Negative)
• 3% Defense(Psionic)
• 3% Defense(Melee)
• 3% Defense(Ranged)
• 3% Defense(AoE)
• 1.8% Max End
• 15% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
• 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
• 20% (1.12 HP/sec) Regeneration

Oh yeah I can also buy that, I have enough cash. I just didn't say it since I don't have it right now.

Can anyone post a basic IO build please for DM/SD?

I do have Numina and Miracle Uniques and 2 LotG globals and a kismit accuracy you can throw in somewhere also. I looked at a lot of builds and they are all uber builds it seems. TYVM for any help!

Well, in Mids even with normal Ios it looks like crap imo? It must take a lot of expensive sets to make it decent I guess?

I am planning to make a DM toon. I am stuck between regen(scrapper obviously) or WP or SD either a scrapper or brute? Which would be better overall? I plan to get IOs at L25 and some lower cost sets as I level, but nothing to expensive really. The main thing though is I am not sure which would be the best on a scrapper or a brute? I think I heard SD is better on a scrapper since it raises base dmg or something and scrappers have way higher base dmg? I dunno?

I suppose by "best" I just mean best dmg and best survival? TYVM for any help.

Yes, I have two attacks, and they help. You know honestly I think my dislike of thermal is really about just not even wanting to play the demon set at all knowing that none of it really counts and I am going to have to re-do it all anyway, so I am kind of playing sets I would never play to see how they are. I tried a DS/Poison and he was cooler than I would have expected. I tried a DS/TA and it actually works pretty well with demons (glue arrow is a lot of fun)

I am trying to stay away from dark since that is at the top of my mind. I am trying to play different so my experiences are kinda new. I want to try pain, but it seems exactly like thermal until L16 or something and I do not feel like doing that again lol. I wish we had some new secondaries to go with demons.

I am trying to stick with demons/thermal, but my god it is so boring. I can barely stand it honestly. I am sure it will be a ton nicer once I get forge and the debuffs, but can I even last that long? Ugg, I miss Storm, because it is never boring! I might just drop the awesome resist in exchange for fun lol.

OK JayboH so you deleted all the folders, did you change the name of the exe to make it DL from the EU instead of the US? It sounds like now you are not doing something correctly because this work around has worked for me and others now. I feel bad you can't log in to test so I want to keep helping you for sure. Can you post a pic of what your updater exe looks like and the path it goes to etc?

Yes, I keep thinking about /dark also because it is honestly so awesome lol. It is just that I have already played it so much and I have never played thermal, so I am trying to stick with something new. I think it will honestly be better when I get higher level and especially when I just get IOs.

I might also try /storm since I love storm and storm is ALWAYS fun imo. I would take aid other and aid self and since the minion can help heal it should be good.

I have had thoughts of /poison also, but it just seems way to single target for me to ever really enjoy.


I just keep wondering how thermal will be on blue side? I know on red a lot of stuff has aoe fire to destroy my pets, but I dont know on blue side, I cant remember lol.

Well, I plan to solo and group when I am able to find a group. My thinking is this though from my experience thus far. I will have an AoE heal which is way better than no heal + I have two shields to keep on the team + I have forge to keep on a few people + I will have the leadership powers running. If they are not happy with all that then well I am probably in a bad group I don't need or want to be in anyway lol.

JayboH did you "DELETE" ALL the folders in the test folder before you tried to DL from the eu DL connection? There should not be anything for it to try and fix if you did? I dunno? Mine did not try to fix anything after I deleted all the folders?

I am trying /thermal right now and I actually like it with demons. It always seemed that everything that kicked the crap out of my pets was an AoE "FIRE" attack. So having high fire resist will be very welcome indeed. The only thing though is that I will be playing blue side and I am not sure if I will need high fire resist on blue compared to red. On red we have longbow and scrapyarders and CoT. I can only think of CoT on blue side? What does anyone else think about this?

I also think I might skip Cauterize since the buffer demon can help heal also and I will still have my aoe heal + two shields, but that is still undecided and a lot will depend on how much powers I have left and still want etc. I will probably also skip thaw and power of the phoenix.

What do you guys think would be more useful? Nemesis staff or Black wand? I am trying black wand for the first time on test, but I am honestly really missing the KD from Nemesis staff and I thought it might mix well with whips KD? I dunno yet. I do plan to be magic origin, so I don't know how much I would miss the extra damage from nemesis staff yet. The black wand does pretty good damage now, but I am thinking extra KD would be better at higher levels when I will have two whip attacks and my demons will do more than enough damage without me.

I am playing demons/thermal right now and all I can say is wow. I can't believe how much more fun this set is compared to the fun mastermind sets in place already. The MM attacks make you feel like you are actually helping with the -res and KD. I am kinda sad because everyone is going to be demons and well, I dont blame them. I honestly think they will have to change other sets to match the awesome sauce they cooked this set up with.

PS. I wonder if the devs were playing overlord when they made these demons? How they act and talk reminds me a lot of that game.

Can you run a fdisk and post the log perhaps?

OMG that worked! WoW you rock man thanks so much for posting that!

edit: I forgot to add that it is still going to take a long time to DL this patch for some people maybe 5 hours, but yes it IS working albeit slowly, yet WAY faster than the US which well, doesn't seem to be working at all.

edit: just another update that it is still working. I only have 45 min left now until it is done, so yes it IS a working "work around".