Hammerfall

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Never done any PvPing before, but as with anything; I'll try it once.

The post title is all that need be said... but I'll write on anyways. I have a real soft spot for Claws, it's fast, very efficient and Focus is just too good. But can it PvP? Specifically can it PvP in Sirens? (where I want to do most of my PvPing)

If Claws can PvP what should I pair it with Secondary-wise? (I would prefer not to have ANOTHER regen, but if that's all that's good I'll take it)

Lastly, What should my build look like when I'm PvPing?

Thanking you in advance.

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Of course it can PVP. My stalker is claws/nin and I like it very much. AS, focus and eviscerate are musts and I'd like to have slash and strike too (placate and build up obviously) but Im afraid you have to drop slash propably to get all other powers you need. At least I did because ninjitsu builds are usually very tight.

Absolute majority of people I know are n00by in PVP

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Yup, cause AV bashing 'specced level 50s are a piece of [censored] to kill, especially when they go around in groups . . .

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Its not about the character its about who's piloting it

Besides exemping in bloody bay at such a lvl that 50s have very very little advantage. Its more likely their build is screwed because its not planned for lvl 20.

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Hey everyone,

I have a couple of general questions about pvp
- What does deceive(illusion) do in pvp?
- Does stacking holds help ? (as in hold + fear + confuse(if that does anything ). Because it seems people can just pop a couple of BF's and not be worried about holds at all.
In other words: can you smash the BF effect with enough hold stacking?
- Which zones have the most people, most seem near empty most of the time (bloody bay the worst it seems)

tnx alot in advance,

Tim

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Hold/other mez stacking is essential for such characters as controllers and dominators. You can definitely stack over a break free with a good character.

Sirens call is usually most popular with actual pvp going on. I wouldn't completely discount bloody bay anymore as there are so many people doing states TF and getting shivans now.. Good for some easy kills..hehe. Warburg has occasional skirmishes, and I have given up hope on recluses victory. At least Until I get my stalker lvled to be able to hunt the grinders..

Actually I like that I9 seems to have given more reason to do stuff in bloody bay, warburg and recluses victory now.

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Not only that, but IO sets also carry over to the different forms...

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You mean set bonuses do.

Last night we were trying to start the STF and my mate crashed while exiting a normal mission. From there on he could no longer log onto the character without COH crashing on him. Was very unfortunate as he was supposed to do the tanking in STF.. Afaik his character is still in that state unless support has answered to his petition.

Wasnt the old 'random kick' but I just crashed trying to enter base. I received "fatal error - BadNetProtocol".

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Was good fun Shame we werent very successful in balancing teams tho lol

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Hmmm it's surprisingly difficult considering that cox pvp should be balanced for teams... right?

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erm... isn't defence capped at 45% these days?

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No.

Stamina is a must on my /poison mastermind (grp teleport too), I also have it on my /regen scrapper, which, with 3-slotted QR,stamina and endreds in attacks is about fine for end unless it is hit with drain, making it one of the few characters of mine to be so. I dont have a single <20 character without stamina I think. ( for the record, I dont usually get stamina at 20 but I do get it at some point.)

If the tourney is that far away then I might be able to raise another character to the level required..

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Giving a personal experience that if fully supported there is no efficiency issue without stamina in build



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I have had. Though not with these archetypes. Problem is that I consider it stupid to plan being fully supported all the time.

I agree that dom pets are ok, sing/fly trap etc.

Im not so sure about epic pets though.

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and a pet healer that is better than Aid Self.


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While its nice to hear that doms have good stuff im not so sure about this statement, at least if the dom has access to power boost (/ice /en). However, having heal that is independent what else you are doing is definitely nice. Somebody remind me whats the Mu guardian downtime with hasten though?

Regarding zone pvp, against stalkers you might want to squeeze icicles in before lvl 32. Other than that just build for arena.

Superspeed+combat jumping is manageable, as long as you get it in within lvl 30 which you have. Looks ok at first glance.

ps. For a tank I'd get health instead of swift. hurdle+combat jumping is what you use for non-suppression movement anyway. Unless theres a movement penalty in ice powers somewhere which I don't remember about..

For testing I could try fighting my lvl 34 toon on test server tonight just to see if its reasonable. Any willing opponents?

Well do we or do we not? Overall the idea is nice, but rules are limiting.
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1) To enter players must have at least 3 level 44+ toons, heroes or villains.

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I have a damage/mez and would like to trade it for dam/Acc or dam/range.

Stacking domination?! o.O

I was away too long..

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Do you think I can get by in the arena with just super jump?


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You won't like it.

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I don't suppose there would be anything to stop someone with less than 3 toon's at 44+ entering you'd just have to except that you where putting your self at a disadvantage. Still don't mean you can't have fun though

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That would be different. Also if this is on test server you can have multiple builds out of the same character (copies).

I don't play my tank in pvp, period. Not even if I was paid real money. So that leaves me with one eligible character. Sorry but I couldn't help thinking a "you need 10 lvl 50s to participate so I win by default" chain of reasoning. Sorry for sounding overly negative.

Sounds like a tourney for the grinders or PLers.. :/

HF anyway.

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I would say PvE needs looked at alot more than PvP in CoX.

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Yes. I have no qualms with this. I wish people would stop stupid posts like "why the devs waste time on *fill here*". Nothing is a waste.

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Theres no point in adding low level stuff as you out level it in a day or two.


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Yes.

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PvP in this game suffers from lack of players. IMO the reason we have lack of players is cause the PvE is to repetitive. End game = roll an alt.

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Yes.

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The breakdown of the different defenders/controllers by Psydock for instance gives me an understandig of what roles exist and which AT - poolpower choices fit the discription. Based on that I want to pick my new character. (If I make a defender is sure as hell is going to be a rad/psionic. Targetcalling / debuffing / ganking is always fun.. )


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Well I'd say there are two kinds of roles in PVP, Damagedealer and support basically. Maybe debuffer or something similar as well to make an opponent easier to kill. A dueling/solo pvp toon has to handle all roles on its own more or less. In specialized team PVP the toons are built to concentrate on their strengths and useful teampowers.

Zone PVP is also different and can have toons that would be pretty useless in arena combat.

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Energy is 1 of the most damaging sets of Tankers,

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Single target. Fire is better for AOE.

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Note the word nonstop, they have their moment of glory in damage (FU + darkstar also nice one), but overall they cant perform this nonstop (unlike a BU/Aim blaster or spamming scrapper). Other hand, let a Aim/Bu blaster do a TF on a fully debuffed mob, it will beat the defender (lets not focus too much solo )

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I admit that I, as usual, was thinking about pvp

Anyway, aim and BU arent non-stop either and defender will get aim + power build up.

Sonic attack chain is just as non-stop as any other.. Longest recharge is from TF, which iirc is around 15-20 secs. And rad sonic gets AM+hasten anyway.. AM+stamina+Conserve power for endurance.. It may not be as fast burst damage than from a blaster but definitely good.