EvilGeko

Truth. I genuinely enjoy running BAF and Lambda. I run Citadel for 5% HP.

I almost didn't respond, but I didn't say that the issue was all about Praetoria, I said it was all about "Incarnates and the war with the Praetorians." IIRC, the Kal TF is all about villains trying to get some of the Well power for themselves.

The focus of the issue is Incarnates and the war against the Praetorians. Both the two trials and the two TFs deal with that. The only new maps created for this issue belong to...wait for it...the TF you call a crumb.

There's no change in direction. It's an expansion of a content path (multi-group encounters) that has laid fallow since Issue 10. It's long overdue and welcome from where I'm sitting.

I thought the random reward table sucks!

No flamewar here considering I haven't insulted anyone or been belligerent. Unless you use a definition of those terms not connected with the English language.

I love arguing about this stuff too, so keep it coming. In a few weeks the specious and hyperbolic nature of these complaints will be obvious to all (see e.g. Issue 19, Issue 19 Strike Pack for recent examples).

That option didn't exist until Issue 7 for villains (requiring a difficult TF) and Issue 9 for heroes and villains who didn't want to do the LRSF.

Perhaps, but the road to do so for the most desirable ones is just a slow as the non-trial way to earn Incarnate abilities no?

But that's just patently untrue. It's very slow, yes, slower than I would have made it, but you can earn the Incarnate abilities while skipping the trials.

But I like fleas. They taste good with catsup!

That's a different issue. If you weren't having fun before, then yes, you should probably leave or take a break. I can understand that. But people aren't saying that for the most part. Many folks are placing the blame for their leaving solely at the feet of Issue 20.

Only person throwing insults is you.

The key parts of both are also timed which maintains a maximum commitment unless people are screwing around on the untimed parts.


No because it's not relevant, especially now. Right now you can get on trials so quickly that it actually hurts your point.


Again only person throwing insults is you. The bit about cybering was in jest. It wasn't directed at anyone. You're directing things at me. You are not giving feedback. You are complaining incessantly. That's not an insult. That's what you're doing. If you don't like the trials. Oh well. I do. Post what you want, I'll post what I want.

If you want MMORPGs to stop being MMORPGs and want to keep belittling and insulting people who are having fun then put me on ignore like Sam Tow. Then you can complain to your hearts content that a MMORPG is adding things that MMORPGs tend to add.

If that were your only issue then you wouldn't have felt the need to argue the point above.

When 99% of the content hasn't changed, I don't understand what's motivated you to not renew.

Is that any different that the LGTF or the ITF? Is it only the new abilities that make it different? If so, then are you really leaving because you want the new abilities but are not happy with what you have to do to earn them?

Listen I tried to present that last sentence in the most neutral and non-confrontational means possible. Reason being is that I really want to understand this. Because, the stated reasons people tend to give for quitting over Incarnates tend to be some variation of:

1) I don't like the trials (for various reasons);
2) I don't like the direction the game is going in.

That's puzzling to me because the answer to the first is "Don't do them." The answer to the second is that 1/2 of 1 issue of content does not constitute a change of direction. These responses are obvious, so it appears to me that the real reason people are upset is that all these cool new abilities are being added and they want them, but don't want to do the content that awards them. Nevermind you don't actually have to.

If that's the reason, there's nothing wrong with that reason. I've left other games for the same reason. Raiding in some games is so casual unfriendly that it REALLY becomes work (I'm not sure what people are talking about here).

I swear I'll never understand this kind of /ragequit. City of Heroes has had large scaled multi-group encounters for years. It's still a tiny fraction of the overall content in the game. The devs devote 1/2 of 1 issue to adding a couple of these types of encounters and people are bolting for the door.

No because that's variable. I've zoned into Pocket D and gotten an invite and been on the trial 3 minutes after logging in. But please don't let me keep you all from being upset while everyone else has fun.

What I was about to say. Loved the idea, some of the details bothered me.

You will either complete or fail BAF in about that time. Assuming you aren't cybering for the first untimed part that is.

Truth. First 24 people logged into Pocket D after the mega maintenance just stomped BAF.

My lady loot was good to her child as well. Got a rare drop!

And that argument would have some weight if it wasn't completely a matter of your opinion.

However, in this case, in both games and comics you see multiple heroes taking on major encounters. So what's the point?

30 mins. is a "large time sink?"

As rebels are want to do, we took the best parts of your culture and language and threw out the things (like superfluous "u"s and "e"s in words and that whole monarch thing) that were unnecessary!

Judgment will become Judgement.

I understand the desire to have progression as a solo focused character. I don't begrudge people that. What I don't understand is this incessant need to use hyperbole to attack Issue 20.

*Looks at Interface*