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Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight

It depends on how it'd impact the performance allocated for each character. But even if it completely destroys that allocation, I'm all for better tails. Especially a fox tail.



Just say'n

Originally Posted by Umbral

Charged Brawl > Havoc Punch. People need to quit spreading misinformation.

Charged Brawl: 52.55 damage (57.8 w/ 10% crit), 1.056 sec activation time, 49.7 DPA (54.7 w/ 10% crit)
Havoc Punch: 82.58 damage (90.8 w/ 10% crit), 1.716 sec activation time, 48.1 DPA (52.9 w/ 10% crit)

And that's completely ignoring the fact that Charged Brawl recharges faster so it's easier to fit into attack string and that it will be available substantially more often to provide its superior DPA.

Havoc Punch is the attack you are going to take at low levels to fill out your attack string and then spec out of later whenever you've got enough recharge. Charged Brawl is gold. Don't just pay attention to the tier of the attack. It's more important to pay attention to the actual attributes of the power.

Originally Posted by Stormfront_NA

I have read some very good replies, but...

I don't believe an AT should be punished for its superb team support abilities, at the expense of soloing.

1. I stand on the belief all ATs should be very good at both solo and team settings.

2. I also stand on the belief that being both good at solo and team are compatible.

Lets me address my first belief, while certain AT approaches can make it easier to solo than others, it should be cosmetic not drastic. I still point the amount of damage a tank can resist or avoid is consistent and reliable, the Controller and Defender's damage mitigation is not. The fact of having less reliable damage mitigation powers than a tanker, demands a balancing ability of some sort, that actually works, so they can both solo and group as well as the tank.

I saw a poster wisely noted: If a Blaster had all those protections, why would they need a group? Great observation; question: Why does a tanker need a group today? They don't.
Don't believe me? Wait till I16 comes out, and watch how many lonely tanks at group equivalents of 8 going at it, that should prove the point...Some solo to group balance, ah? If you want to farm, do you have a hard time deciding between a Defender and your Tanker? While the question is plainly sarcastic, no one in their right mind would solo farm with a Defender (there are some very special exceptions), the Tanker avenue is much more user friendly and reliable. In fact, I would contend that both the Tanker and Scraper are excellent examples of ATs that does both Solo and Team wonderfully well. I think its time, all the other ATs could do both Solo and Group just as wonderfully well, and I am now including corruptors, dominators, etc.

Now, if we are going to be so group minded, and say that should rule over solo ability, then use the solo nurf bat across the board then. Why should a Tank require MAG 12 status effect when solo? Why should a tank has such high soft cap damage resitance when solo?, why should a tank has such high defense soft caps when solo? How you justify these really nice level of abilities, why should a tank be able to self rez? self heal? where is the dependence here?

Lol half of the defenders primary powers does not even apply to them as is, while a tanker's primary powers are all fully useful in both solo and group settings, is this truly fair?

Just some food for thought...

Hugs

Stormy

Originally Posted by tuter_king

Oh i feel your pain i was on my lvl 50 ss/wp brute and had a db/sr brute always using taunt it pissed me off because I could not heal because all the guys were attacking him, I never take taunt i think its kind of a waist of a power for brutes.

Originally Posted by Lonelyshade

The only character i have that could obtain 100 fury is DB/WP brute (Still with crappy IOs sets)
All others usually drop too fast past 80 to be noticable .
But the 100% is attainable and can be maintained if you dont kill off stuff fast enough :P

Cause you kill off stuff fast enough , and have very few things hitting you the fury drops really fast , but past 85 fury the drop rate of fury is too fast and done for a purpose .

Did you try to stack up huge amount of minions that attack you while you cannot be hit
By popping purples or activating some accolade powers in your test.
And do crappy damage to them , think in that test envoirement you will find you can maintain it around 95% fury. just they dont last long .

Originally Posted by Phoebe_Ponderas

Hmm, thanks for all the replies so far. I think what it comes down to is, with i16 allowing us to pad our own spawns...what do you think would take down a maxed out setup while solo? I've been playing with mids and can soft-cap both a tank and a scrapper (at least for melee, not so easily others if I focus on melee) but the loss of 1000+ hp makes me feel a tiny bit uneasy when swimming into 10+ purples >.>

And this assumes I even stay with dark melee and shields. Willpower for the 1000%+ regen, super strength for foot stomp, and several other sets are looking appealing the more I look into things.

I suppose the real question is staring to become, what sort of characters can really take on fully maxed-out settings on their own and do well :P

Originally Posted by ChaosExMachina

BABs, an idea:

If it is not possible to do it both ways through power customization, what if there are 2 versions of the power?

Stone Armor could be a 10 power set, with 2 mutually exclusive granite powers.

This sounds like quite a major thing to do for 1 set, but I am thinking that it could let you be more flexible with power adjustments and customization in other sets, too.

For example, you could get around the cottage rule the same way you did with epic pools. Just add powers. The new granite armor could be the one that works with other toggles but isn't quite as ridiculously strong itself, as is being discussed already.

Originally Posted by PhroX

But Dark does have -Regen: Twilight Grasp has some, and it's stackable with Fluffy's (and I seem to remember reading somewhere that it self stacks too), while Howling Twilight has a pretty nice chunk of it (though it's not perma-able).

Originally Posted by Thirty_Seven

I played a Dark/Dark Defender to 50... and that character was very good at increasing the survival of the team.

Did I get scoffed at when my heal missed? Certainly. But when I teleported the corpses of like 5 team members and simultaneously resurrected them WHILE debuffing all the enemies that had just killed us, they had a different tune to sing. Not to mention all the other things that make me love Dark Miasma (like the singing tentacles ).

It's unfortunate that I have been playing other characters a lot lately... perhaps I should dust him off. (He may just go Rogue.)

Originally Posted by Ethric

Electric Melee has many AoEs which tend to have a strong ST focus, yet it's still the worst set for ST DPS and it's not the best at AoE either.

Also, Shield Charge vs. Lightning Rod.

Shield Charge has a much faster activation time. (1.5 vs. 2.57)

SC can be activated in the air. (Lightning Rod requires you to be on the ground)

SC deals its damage in the full 20' radius, meaning it wipes spawns much better. (LR deals its full damage only at a 3' radius, the rest is about half of that)

SC comes a tier earlier in the set. Tier 8 vs. Tier 9, and the Tier 8 is better. Also, the protective set has a better attack than the attack set? Awesome!

SC also has a taunt component (LR doesn't).

The only saving grace about Lightning Rod is that it looks cooler and deals energy damage. But unless you have the whole spawn in a 3' radius, dealing higher damage is unlikely.

Originally Posted by Leo_G

I say Energy Aura. Then you can be Strong and *Sexy*.

Not to be confused with the Strong and Pretty WM/EA.

Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba

For soloing? Scrapper. The extra mitigation provided by the tank doesn't come close to the extra damage from being a scrapper.