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Quote:Win 7 is in my opinion, what Vista should have been a long time ago. Anyways, so far as I know, yes you can upgrade Vista to 7. Me, I'd do the clean install anyways. It's more trouble since you do have to back up and reinstall stuff but a clean install can and typically will perform better. With an upgrade, you generally get to keep everything in place so it is 'simpler' but there's no housekeeping so all the accumulated junk from old programs, drivers, and whatnot is still there, potentially clogging the machine and slowing performance. Think of a clean install as an opportunity to do some spring cleaning on your system. You can install fresh drivers, ditch old programs and files you never use any more and otherwise refresh your system. While you're at it, take the time to actually clean the machine itself. Open it up and get the dust bunnies out, etc. It's more trouble, but I think it well worth the time.Originally Posted by KingSnake
Ok. My newish computer (about a year old) came with Vista. And I want to upgrade to Win 7. How does Vista upgrade to Win 7? I know in the past most people recommend a "clean" install, and well, I'm kind of trying to avoid that IF possible. Anyone have any expearince with just running the upgrade? Is there a noticable difference between an upgrade and a clean install? Is windows 7 really that much better then vista?
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This should work for you and it's free. http://www.guru3d.com/category/driversweeper/ Driver Cleaner used to be free IIRC, guess not any more.
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Try removing your current install and downloading a fresh one. That might do it.
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Yup, give us some specs and that CoH Helper too. You should have no need to run in any sort of compatiblity mode or other special stuff. CoH runs fine under Win 7. It's what I use.
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Quote:Seemed so to me. I'm on Win 7 64-bit and it wasn't until I put on the OGL4 preview drivers that my Alt-Tab got working again. The issue seems related to Aero on Win 7. CoH turns it off when it has the focus and for some reason that was playing havoc with Alt-Tab. Now, it still turns Aero off, but Alt-Tab works and turns Aero back on while CoH is in the background.Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja
Hmm, so I wonder if it was the ATI drivers causing issues with Aero...
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Quote:I have a 5850 and it does very well at UM. I don't know much about the brand you linked but I can suggest this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150477 It's made by XFX which is a very good brand and the maker of my card. Same price as what you listed. Mine is a Black Edition of that which just means it cost more for being a factory O/C but that one should do dandy.Originally Posted by Pure_Massacre
I was looking at this card: Visiontek 900297 Radeon HD5850 Video Card - 1GB, DDR5, PCIe, Dual DVI at tigerdirect.
Linky: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&Sku=V261-5850
I really don't want to spend that much, but I would like to run with the shadowmaps on and jack up my resolution a notch or 2. With shadwomaps off, everything else on ultra, running at 1128(?)x(?), I get between 22 and 30 fps outside, 60 inside. This is on my 8800gtx. Looking at my current setup, I don't think I would have a problem running the radeon card I listed earlier. The 8800 takes up 2 slots and I have a 700 watt PSU. I can't recall what the rail is listed to run at, but I'm thinking that should be fine. So, do you think the HD5850 would be enough to run all of UM and stay above 30-35 fps? Thanks.
Edit. Found this card.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&Sku=P450-5770
Opinions oh tech savvy ones?
A 5770 would also be a fine choice. Not quite as good as a 5850 obviously but should still do pretty well as I understand it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150447 There's the same one you linked but $10 cheaper at Newegg, BTW. -
If he doesn't want to surf, fine. But he STILL needs to update drivers, patches and run antivirus. Cuz not all viruses come from the web. Some will find you. Others move through email. (Unless he absolutely refuses to use that as well.) And even legit websites and such can be hacked. He really needs to get over this phobia or at least take some sensible actions and precautions. Or he needs to just stop using a computer.
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Quote:Yes it does. Try that.Originally Posted by Texas Justice
Driver Sweeper is a free download and works very well.
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The issue is FSAA. The live version requires you to run HW FSAA in the CCC. The Live in-game FSAA doesn't work on ATI cards. I17 fixes this and allows you to set and use FSAA in the game.
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Drivers, drivers, drivers, drivers! And perhaps a cleaning of the PC.
And I have to say it. He'll play MMOs but is phobic about the internet? That's..... *speechless*
And as for you my dear Madam, if you're on a definite budget, a 5770 is a pretty good buy and should do UM nicely from what I hear. Above that, the 5850 is a good choice but will be definitely pushing your budget. -
Quote:Well you can try cleaning it and updating the drivers to see but if changing the card immediately fixed the problem, I'd say there's your trouble.Originally Posted by ghoost
I'm having the same problem when I log in. My screen freezes when i'm making a transaction or just moving about. I couldnt ctrl,alt,dlte because of the cursor was frozen!!
My graphics card is a 9800gt running vista, my toon is in Grandville and when i hit the reset button seveal times to go out...it started to go to acting up at my boot up screen so I switched to my second gfx card and all was well.
is it that my card may be going out or i need to clean it better...I dont want my other card to end up the same way. -
Quote:That's as may be but I still don't consider it worth the difference. The XFX I have is plenty quiet enough. I think my case fans are louder than it is. But I'm also not obsessive about quiet computers. I kind of like a little fan noise. Lets me know for sure they're working and I'm not about to have a meltdown.Originally Posted by Human_Being
It's not marketing hype. The Vapor-X models rely on the same technology that modern CPU coolers do and are engineered with quiet-system builders in mind.
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Quote:Me, I'd still take the XFX. They make good product. Cheaper with a ton more warranty vs. a minor OC and a theoretically quieter fan? Nah. I have an XFX card (5850 Black) and it's plenty quiet and cool. I have nothing against Sapphire, I just think XFX is generally better.Originally Posted by Myriad
It's not only that the Vapor-X is OCed a bit (GPU from 850 to 870 MHz and RAM from 2400 to 2500 MHz - which isn't that much) but that the Vapor-X is very quiet and and has very good cooling ability.
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Quote:Well the main differences I see beyond price is the Sapphire looks like a factory OC model. But there's probably no reason the XFX couldn't be OC'd to the same degree. XFX also normally does the double lifetime warranty while Sapphire tops at 2 years. Me, I'd still give the edge to the XFX. I just don't really see anything about the Sapphire that really justifies the premium over the XFX.Originally Posted by Myriad
If it's in your budget, get this one: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16814102872. The Sapphire Vapor-X HD 5870 1 GB is probably the best 1 GB HD 5870 on the market.
The XFX you linked seems to be ok (didn't check for reviews). It's a XFX custom design which is probably more silent and likely has more cooling power than the reference design (notice the fan). -
Assuming it is otherwise compatible with your system, I'd expect it would work. The speed rating on memory is generally the speed limit, i.e. the fastest it can go. Slower speeds should prove no issue for it. You'll just never be able to get it up to max due to your system's limits.
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Quote:Well if money is no object, the best card out there, period, right now is the ATI Radeon HD 5970. But as it is two GPUs on one card using an internal Crossfire setup and Crossfire doesn't support or isn't supported by (not sure which is the correct phrase) UM, it won't do as well as it possibly could. Though we can probably expect Crossfire support eventually. Below that would be the Radeon HD 5870. (The 5970 is essentially two 5870s on one board.) Comparable to the 5870 is the Nvidia GTX 480 which will be out soon. Those would be the best cards available (or nearly so). The GTX 2xx line is Nvidia's current top cards but as they don't support DX 11 or the new OGL standards, I'd avoid them. The GTX 4xx line will support those and all Radeon 5xxx cards already support them.Originally Posted by Cerulean_Shadow
So what is the absolute best card out there to run CoX with all the Ultra mode options on the highest settings?
If it matters, I have a 2.85Ghz Quad Core system with 8GB of Ram, 64-bit Windows Vista Ultimate, and a 1000w power supply, not to mention a fairly huge case, so size of card of the power it takes isn't a great concern. -
Quote:Well first off, for the moment, SLI and Crossfire are stated to not work with UM so until they are, a dual GPU setup is less than optimal for that reason alone. Presumably, they will get it working at some point but we don't know when. Until then, single GPU upgrades are the way to go.Originally Posted by steveb
As stated by some others, if you're building a new rig solely for CoH/V, then, even with Ultra mode coming down the pipe, a dual GPU system probably won't be much help to you, as SLI/CrossfireX tends to yield less impressive results in MMORPGs than in most other games.
Now I understand the idea of wanting a dual card set-up, I have one myself, but SLI or CrossfireX really needs to be treated one of two ways: either as the starting point for a very high end gaming system; or as an upgrade path on a mid-range system. I see people looking at building something new with dual cards at the mid-range which is something that doesn't really make a lot of sense. For example, the Radeon 5670s mentioned in earlier in an Alienware build would be outperformed by a 5770 or 5830 for less money with lower power consumption and heat generation. But if you already have a card like a 5670 and you're just looking to add some extra power to your graphics processing, then adding in a second 5670 makes a lot of sense, as its probably still cheaper than selling off the used mid-range card and then buying a new high end card.
However, I feel this thread represents a pretty large failure on the dev's part: by February, they should have had a pretty exact specification needed to run ultra mode, instead of all this guess work that we players have been making. And while I understand the need to still be flexible while this is under development, considering that many of their customers are considering a fairly expensive upgrade to coincide with this graphics update, I really think that it was their responsibility to nail down and post an exact minimum spec. While everyone is sort of panicking with the whole "can my system run ultra mode?" I'm pretty sure that ultra mode's requirements are going to be far less hefty than most are scared of: a dual core CPU at about 2.6GHz and a Geforce 8600 or Radeon 3850 are probably all that will be required for minimum spec (most game developers shoot for specs much lower than this for minimum specs, and we're talking about on very popular games like Mass Effect or Call of Duty; its stupid to eliminate 70% of potential customers out there with obscenely high requirements); cards in the current mid-range like GTS 250 or Radeon 5750 will probably be all that's needed to run the game at relatively high settings with a good frame rate. The bulk of worried posts in this thread could have been largely avoided by simply making a statement along the lines of "You WILL need at least CPU XX, X amount of RAM and card XXX from Nvidia or XXXX from ATI in order to run ultra mode: we are still shooting for a slightly lower minimum spec, but this is the guaranteed minimum spec required for ultra mode." This hasn't shown up yet, and so now we have people running around trying to shop for an unknown future, and quite possibly spending money that they could have put to better use somewhere else simply because the dev's have not nailed down a guaranteed minimum spec for ultra mode, and haven't posted that spec up in lights with arrows pointing to it for everyone to see.
Beyond that, while they haven't specified a CPU/memory requirement for UM, Posi has listed a range of what cards they expect to do what level of UM. And thus it can be taken that the 9800GT and equivalents is the current minimum spec for UM. Also keep in mind that no one is being run off. If you can play now, you'll still be able to play under I17. UM is an *optional* feature. Anyways, until I17 at least leaves Closed Beta, I think you're expecting too much. -
Quote:Yup. Is it the cooler that's the problem or simply an inability to put in a double-wide card. I think I have seen some better cards that are still quite wide in the cooler but don't actually requite the second rear slot. If it's the slot that's the issue but you have room for a tall cooler, something like that might work. Let us know what you're working with and we can advise better.Originally Posted by Father Xmas
That's why you look at the pictures such as the one that's the bracket/ports view. Wider coolers will stick out and be all obvious like.
Kry8ter, sorry, can't think of one. The more powerful the card, the more power it uses, the more heat it generates, the bigger the cooler it needs. The 9800GT is pretty much the limit when it comes to low profile, single slot coolers. -
Then it definitely sounds, no pun intended, like it's the speakers themselves. Looks like it's time to replace them.
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I have an Ideazon Merc. I believe the brand has since changed to SteelSeries. I absolutely love it. It has a basically standard keyboard layout for typing with a gaming keys area on the end for games.
This is the new/current version of it. http://www.steelseries.com/int/produ...rc/information
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If you have or can borrow another comparable video card, I'd start there. Also, when uninstalling and reinstalling video drivers, try using a driver cleaner program.
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Have you tried removing the old rivers and running a driver cleaner before installing the new ones? Also, what sort of machine are you running? System specs and all?
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I'd try lowering your graphics a bit and also see if you can update your sound driver. That might help too.
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Quote:As the game stands on Live, I think the only real improvement is the ALT-Tab fix and the Vista/7 stuff. I don't think they make any noticeable difference to the game as it stands. I17 is slated to fix all the issues that ATI cards presently have on Live and bring in UM. What difference the new drivers make there, no one can say. Well I suppose the Devs could but testers can't (NDA). I don't know offhand what OGL is used by the game but I know it's an older standard. Je_saist could probably tell you it for sure. Television has been rumored to state that they are working on some stuff incorporating the newer OGL specs but I'm not sure what that stuff is or when we'll see it. So for right now, I don't know that there's any overwhelming reason to update if you don't want to, but then I don't know of any big reason not to either.Originally Posted by LovesBigDogs
Hey, I'm using Windows XP and the Catalyst 9.12 drivers and CoH works (more or less!) fine - so I'm slow to adopt new things.
I was wondering if the 10.x drivers and/or the OGL preview drivers (aside from addressing Vista or W7 issues) enable greater in-game stability or graphics options (e.g. AA works from in-game settings vs. forcing through drivers) etc. Essentially is there something to recommend the new drivers over the older ones (except for the ALT-TABbing issue).
I've always wondered if CoH could leverage graphics cards more to improve performance or if newer drivers might help with that. By the way does anyone know what version of OGL CoH uses? Would OGL 3.3/4 help CoH or is that just an Aero UI issue?
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To address the OP, the card you have should do UM at some level as it is above the minimum spec cited by Posi. For upgrades, I'd say you should be thinking either one of the new upcoming Fermis or a more economical ATI like the 5850 or 5770. All of those will do DX11 and the new OGL standards. The GTX 2xx's won't. But it doesn't hurt to wait till the Fermis get rolling good and see wht happens before making a final choice.
Quote:I'd say not as the cards it is intended to replace, fall below Posi's minimum spec.Originally Posted by Defenestrator
Dumb (or maybe not so dumb) question. Is the GT 220 going to be enough to run Ultramode competently? I'm not looking for a high end machine as COH is about as far up the scale as I go for PC gaming, but my current computer is starting to show its age.