ATI Legacy Drivers
By
Texas Justice,
Posted on: 2012-03-20 17:33 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
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Originally Posted by thgebull0425
I keep getting an message when I log into COH saying that I have an older version of drivers which may cause COH not to work well. I hate the 1600x/1650x version of the Radeon drivers. I have gone on to www.amd.com to update, and I do an auto detect and it tells me I have the most recent version. Not sure what to do here. Not very technically inclined in terms of knowing what to do. I have Windows XP.
Any help here? The game lags a lot for me. Is there something I can adjust in game? Any help anyone can provide would be much appreciated. |
The newest drivers for that old of a video card/chipset is the Legacy driver. You "may" be able to find a workaround that allows newer drivers to install on those older cards/chipsets on the internet. I haven't looked in a while to see if it's still being updated but there used to be an ATI Mobility Modder tool that might be able to allow newer drivers to be used on the older cards/chipsets. I'm not sure what the last version of it was or what drivers it worked with, but I know it worked with the 10.4 drivers as I used it on my old laptop after Issue 17 was released.
You may be able to find that tool by using Google to search for ATI Mobility Modder. If you find it, follow the instructions exactly. I'd recommend also using incremental steps in upgrading your drivers. For example, try first to use the 10.4 drivers and if those don't cause issues try the 10.9 drivers. If those don't cause issues try the 11.3 drivers and if those don't cause issues try the 11.9 drivers.
Be sure to use the recommended method of uninstalling, running Driver Sweeper in Safe Mode to remove leftover pieces of the drivers, rebooting and then installing the newer drivers.
Otherwise, in order to be able to make any suggestions for anything to adjust we'd have to know what your settings are. Follow the instructions in Hyperstrike's [Guide] Asking for technical help on the forums that is stickied in this forum section.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
---System information gathered by CoH Helper version 0.2.0.2---
DxDiag gathered at March 20, 2012 20:57 (-04:00)
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.111025-1629)
System Manufacturer: Compaq Presario 061
System Model: EL445AA-ABA SR1750NX NA650
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Central Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.2GHz
Memory: 1022MB
.Net Memory Report: 294MB out of 1022MB available
Page File: 1741MB (717MB currently in use)
C Drive: (WDC WD5000AACS-00ZUB0) 425062MB out of 469634MB (90%) free
D Drive: (WDC WD5000AACS-00ZUB0) 488MB out of 7280MB (6%) free
E Drive: (HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22NP21) zero-size drive
Windows directory location: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DirectX Diag version: 5.03.2600.5512 (32-bit version)
Display Notes: No problems found.
Sound Notes: No problems found.
Input Notes: No problems found.
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor's Max Resolution: 1600,1200
Video Device Name: Radeon X1600/X1650 Series
Manufacturer / Chip: ATI Technologies Inc. / ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x71C2)
Video Memory: 512.0 MB
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6925
Driver Date: 02/11/2010 12:45:14 AM
Driver Language: English
Sound Device Description: Sound Blaster Audigy
Driver File: P17.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0512
Driver Date: 07/07/2005 4:14:30 AM
WMI Information
Motherboard Manufacturer: ASUSTek Computer INC.
Motherboard Model: (empty)
Motherboard Product: Amberine M
Motherboard Version: 1.03
BIOS Manufacturer: Phoenix Technologies, LTD
BIOS Name: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
BIOS Version: HP-CPC - 42302e31
BIOS Release: 20070125000000.000000+000
Registry Information for Current User
Resolution: 1024x768
3D Resolution: 1024x768 (Not using renderscale)
Full Screen: Yes
Maximized: No
Screen Position: 0, 0
Refresh Rate: 0Hz
Vertical Sync Enabled: Yes
Physics Quality: Medium
Maximum Particles: 50000
Max Particle Fill? 10.000
Physics Card Enabled: No
Anti-aliasing: Off
Anisotropic Filtering: 4x
Texture LOD Bias: Smooth
Water Effects: Medium quality
Bloom: 1.000 (turned on)
Depth of Field Enabled: Yes
Desaturation Effects (Sepia) Enabled: Yes
Shader Detail: Medium?
World Texture Level: Very High
Character Texture Level: High
World Detail Level (Vis_Scale): 1.000
Entity Detail Level: 1.000
Shadows Enabled: Yes
Shadow Mode: Stencil shadows
Shadow Map Shader: Unknown (0)
Environmental Reflections: Disabled
Advanced Occlusion Settings: No
Ambient Occlusion: Off
Occlusion Strength: Off
Blur: Bilateral
Ambient Resolution: Performance
Gamma Correction: 1.000
Geometry Buffers (VBOs) Enabled: Yes
Suppression of FX When Camera Close Enabled: No
Close Suppression Range: 3.000
Show Advertisements: Yes
Audio Mode: Performance
3D Audio: No
FX Sound Volume: 1.000
Music Sound Volume: 0.600
Show Advanced Graphics Options: No
Overall Graphics Quality: 0.500
Reverse Mouse Buttons: No
Save Login Username: Yes
Transfer Rate: 169396 bytes/second
Current Game Version: 1950.201102230015.1
Installation Directory: C:\Program Files\City of Heroes
Mod files in the Data directory
.\texture_library\GUI\Icons\Pet_Command has 9 files
.\texture_library\GUI\Icons\Powers has 1244 files
.\texture_library\GUI\Icons\Powers\ALTERNATE-1 has 26 files
.\texture_library\GUI\Icons\Powers\ALTERNATE-2 has 10 files
A few things to change that I can see in CoH Helper.
Lower the Maximum Particles to 25050
Turn Anisotropic Filtering OFF
Turn Water Effects to LOW or OFF
Turn Bloom OFF
Turn Depth of Field OFF
Lower the Shader Detail to LOW or OFF (possibly NONE, not sure how it's labeled in Options)
Turn World Detail to HIGH or Medium
And then post the output from HiJackThis.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
When I go to ATI, I see a drive with a driver date of 07/17/2011. But when I click to download, it says the most current are already on there. What do I do with that. How can I update the drivers?
---System information gathered by CoH Helper version 0.2.0.2---
DxDiag gathered at March 21, 2012 18:15 (-04:00)
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.111025-1629)
System Manufacturer: Compaq Presario 061
System Model: EL445AA-ABA SR1750NX NA650
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Central Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.2GHz
Memory: 1022MB
.Net Memory Report: 364MB out of 1022MB available
Page File: 1838MB (621MB currently in use)
C Drive: (WDC WD5000AACS-00ZUB0) 424730MB out of 469634MB (90%) free
D Drive: (WDC WD5000AACS-00ZUB0) 488MB out of 7280MB (6%) free
E Drive: (HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22NP21) zero-size drive
Windows directory location: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DirectX Diag version: 5.03.2600.5512 (32-bit version)
Display Notes: No problems found.
Sound Notes: No problems found.
Input Notes: No problems found.
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor's Max Resolution: 1600,1200
Video Device Name: Radeon X1600/X1650 Series
Manufacturer / Chip: ATI Technologies Inc. / ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x71C2)
Video Memory: 512.0 MB
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6925
Driver Date: 02/11/2010 12:45:14 AM
Driver Language: English
Sound Device Description: Sound Blaster Audigy
Driver File: P17.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0512
Driver Date: 07/07/2005 4:14:30 AM
WMI Information
Motherboard Manufacturer: ASUSTek Computer INC.
Motherboard Model: (empty)
Motherboard Product: Amberine M
Motherboard Version: 1.03
BIOS Manufacturer: Phoenix Technologies, LTD
BIOS Name: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
BIOS Version: HP-CPC - 42302e31
BIOS Release: 20070125000000.000000+000
Registry Information for Current User
Resolution: 1024x768
3D Resolution: 1024x768 (Not using renderscale)
Full Screen: Yes
Maximized: No
Screen Position: 0, 0
Refresh Rate: 0Hz
Vertical Sync Enabled: Yes
Physics Quality: Medium
Maximum Particles: 50000
Max Particle Fill? 10.000
Physics Card Enabled: No
Anti-aliasing: Off
Anisotropic Filtering: 4x
Texture LOD Bias: Smooth
Water Effects: Medium quality
Bloom: 1.000 (turned on)
Depth of Field Enabled: Yes
Desaturation Effects (Sepia) Enabled: Yes
Shader Detail: Medium?
World Texture Level: Very High
Character Texture Level: High
World Detail Level (Vis_Scale): 1.000
Entity Detail Level: 1.000
Shadows Enabled: Yes
Shadow Mode: Stencil shadows
Shadow Map Shader: Unknown (0)
Environmental Reflections: Disabled
Advanced Occlusion Settings: No
Ambient Occlusion: Off
Occlusion Strength: Off
Blur: Bilateral
Ambient Resolution: Performance
Gamma Correction: 1.000
Geometry Buffers (VBOs) Enabled: Yes
Suppression of FX When Camera Close Enabled: No
Close Suppression Range: 3.000
Show Advertisements: Yes
Audio Mode: Performance
3D Audio: No
FX Sound Volume: 1.000
Music Sound Volume: 0.600
Show Advanced Graphics Options: No
Overall Graphics Quality: 0.500
Reverse Mouse Buttons: No
Save Login Username: Yes
Transfer Rate: 169396 bytes/second
Current Game Version: 1950.201102230015.1
Installation Directory: C:\Program Files\City of Heroes
Mod files in the Data directory
.\texture_library\GUI\Icons\Pet_Command has 9 files
.\texture_library\GUI\Icons\Powers has 1244 files
.\texture_library\GUI\Icons\Powers\ALTERNATE-1 has 26 files
.\texture_library\GUI\Icons\Powers\ALTERNATE-2 has 10 files
Quote:
Okay. Maybe you missed what I said earlier.|
Originally Posted by thgebull0425
When I go to ATI, I see a drive with a driver date of 07/17/2011. But when I click to download, it says the most current are already on there. What do I do with that. How can I update the drivers?
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Originally Posted by Texas Justice
The newest drivers for that old of a video card/chipset is the Legacy driver. You "may" be able to find a workaround that allows newer drivers to install on those older cards/chipsets on the internet. I haven't looked in a while to see if it's still being updated but there used to be an ATI Mobility Modder tool that might be able to allow newer drivers to be used on the older cards/chipsets. I'm not sure what the last version of it was or what drivers it worked with, but I know it worked with the 10.4 drivers as I used it on my old laptop after Issue 17 was released.
You may be able to find that tool by using Google to search for ATI Mobility Modder. If you find it, follow the instructions exactly. I'd recommend also using incremental steps in upgrading your drivers. For example, try first to use the 10.4 drivers and if those don't cause issues try the 10.9 drivers. If those don't cause issues try the 11.3 drivers and if those don't cause issues try the 11.9 drivers. Be sure to use the recommended method of uninstalling, running Driver Sweeper in Safe Mode to remove leftover pieces of the drivers, rebooting and then installing the newer drivers. |
Quote:
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Originally Posted by Texas Justice
A few things to change that I can see in CoH Helper.
Lower the Maximum Particles to 25050 Turn Anisotropic Filtering OFF Turn Water Effects to LOW or OFF Turn Bloom OFF Turn Depth of Field OFF Lower the Shader Detail to LOW or OFF (possibly NONE, not sure how it's labeled in Options) Turn World Detail to HIGH or Medium And then post the output from HiJackThis. |
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
Sorry Texas Justice, I misunderstood where you said about the modder. Ok, I'll have to go find where that stuff is. I was looking earlier, but didn't see any of the stuff you indicated. Thanks again. My apologies, I am a bit challenged when it comes to stuff like this. I appreciate your patience.
I keep getting an message when I log into COH saying that I have an older version of drivers which may cause COH not to work well. I hate the 1600x/1650x version of the Radeon drivers. I have gone on to www.amd.com to update, and I do an auto detect and it tells me I have the most recent version. Not sure what to do here. Not very technically inclined in terms of knowing what to do. I have Windows XP.
Any help here? The game lags a lot for me. Is there something I can adjust in game?
Any help anyone can provide would be much appreciated.