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Blue_Centurion

 

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Oh, if you need me to write shorter sentences and use smaller words just ask.
I only request that you don't evade the topic with non sequiturs. Intelligence insults, while amusing, generally just reflect poorly on the user.


 

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I only request that you don't evade the topic with non sequiturs. Intelligence insults, while amusing, generally just reflect poorly on the user.
It's an honest question. You did not read the sentence in my opinion that stated why I felt the rewards were worth it. When I pointed out the sentence that you seemed to have missed, you said the statement had little value. As if you did not comprehend that entire statement was my opinion. So, I am left to wonder if I am talking over your head. I am used to discussing things in college philosophy courses, and sometimes it takes me a while to realize it when I am dealing with people who do not communicate at that level. I am sorry if you found this insulting. Yet you seem to ignore all of the actual factual statements I have made about this discussion You have completely discounted my opinion as invalid in order to make the point that your calling me a hypocrite was justified. Now you are accusing me of insulting you when I am trying to figure out how you cannot understand the words I am typing. I really do not have any more time for this conversation. I am sorry if I insulted you. Have a good day.


 

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It's an honest question. You did not read the sentence in my opinion that stated why I felt the rewards were worth it. When I pointed out the sentence that you seemed to have missed, you said the statement had little value. As if you did not comprehend that entire statement was my opinion. So, I am left to wonder if I am talking over your head. I am used to discussing things in college philosophy courses, and sometimes it takes me a while to realize it when I am dealing with people who do not communicate at that level. I am sorry if you found this insulting. Yet you seem to ignore all of the actual factual statements I have made about this discussion You have completely discounted my opinion as invalid in order to make the point that your calling me a hypocrite was justified. Now you are accusing me of insulting you when I am trying to figure out how you cannot understand the words I am typing. I really do not have any more time for this conversation. I am sorry if I insulted you. Have a good day.
Let's talk about factual statements, shall we? Your excuse that UG is worth it's time spent vs reward is arguable, but valid as an opinion. I disagree, but that doesn't matter. What does matter is that you CLAIM you value well written/executed content over rewards. This, then, does not compute with your complaints of what is only hearsay to you at this point about a smaller reward/time in the Drowning in Blood trial.

You have not run this content to see if it is "worth it." You have instead come here, to complain that it is not as saturated in experience points as the first trial was. So tell me, then, Mr. College Philospher, how is this not a hypocritical stance? You took the time to write a multi-paragraph essay about a spade, I'm sure you can take the time to explain why you magically know that Drowning in Blood isn't worth the time to play, let alone the rewards you can get from it.

While we're on the subject, if you value content over rewards, why do you like Death From Below so much? It can't be because of the story and variety. You kill several mobs, you move to the next part. Rinse, repeat. And then two hydra bosses. Wow, that was amazing. It can't be because of a challenge, because it's routinely stomped by PuG's, and it's level 1 content. So tell me how it's not because you actually just want an alternate farming tool?

I won't blame you if you run away from this conversation. You have resorted to insults, but I'm actually just curious about your logic disconnect.


 

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Let's talk about factual statements, shall we? Your excuse that UG is worth it's time spent vs reward is arguable, but valid as an opinion. I disagree, but that doesn't matter. What does matter is that you CLAIM you value well written/executed content over rewards.
Uh, I think we have found the basis of why we are having a two page "discussion" Stone Daemon. I never CLAIMed to value well written/executed content over rewards. Specifically not in this thread. I do prefer well written and executed content. I have soloed Redside many times (all content, every contact, every side mission) and am currently on a stalled @34th Blueside project. So, yes, i preffer well written content. But especially with the Incarnate Trials I EXPECT it to be well written, well coded (the TPN is specifically coded horrid), and with a fair reward for time invested.

With the DFB, there is no illusion that we are all running it many many times because it is the best written content in the game. It is just a very efficient way to get from 1-12 for some, and 1-22 for others. It was my hope, and the point of my initial post, that the Drowing In Blood trial would be at least a similar reward earned to time expended proposition. With grand hopes of being well written. But in truth it could be a 15+ BAF and i would run it endlessly to get from 15-22 or 15-30 if the rewards were similar to DFB, and I have heard they are not. Personally, I am as ignorant about this Trial as when I posted originally. I have been struggling to complete a Synapse, which I finally managed last night. Tonight I have hopes of 50ing my new Blaster (slim, but hopes) and this weekend I am out of town. So, I will be as ignorant about DIB Monday as I am today.But I was upfront about not knowing for sure the situation with the new Trial, and I do not believe you should attack me based on that. I posted here to get other peoples opinions on it since I was specifically not planning on running it this week.


 

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Uh, I think we have found the basis of why we are having a two page "discussion" Stone Daemon. I never CLAIMed to value well written/executed content over rewards. Specifically not in this thread.
I agree, you didn't flat out state it. However, you did compare the UG to TPN, which is repetitive (I agree), so to a certain extent you implied it.

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With the DFB, there is no illusion that we are all running it many many times because it is the best written content in the game. It is just a very efficient way to get from 1-12 for some, and 1-22 for others. It was my hope, and the point of my initial post, that the Drowing In Blood trial would be at least a similar reward earned to time expended proposition. With grand hopes of being well written. But in truth it could be a 15+ BAF and i would run it endlessly to get from 15-22 or 15-30 if the rewards were similar to DFB, and I have heard they are not. Personally, I am as ignorant about this Trial as when I posted originally. I have been struggling to complete a Synapse, which I finally managed last night. Tonight I have hopes of 50ing my new Blaster (slim, but hopes) and this weekend I am out of town. So, I will be as ignorant about DIB Monday as I am today.
Ah, I see. This is what I wanted to know. Thank you. So it's just a different standards kind of thing.

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But I was upfront about not knowing for sure the situation with the new Trial, and I do not believe you should attack me based on that. I posted here to get other peoples opinions on it since I was specifically not planning on running it this week.
I'm not the one that jumped to attack me with intelligence insults. You did. I simply said that your views seemed hypocritical. Which they sort of are, but at least now I understand why.


 

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I am certainly glad to help you understand the position that I was stating.