If you already have a KM/REGEN STICK WITH IT.. focus on recharge and hp building with io's.. YOU dont really need more than 2 melee attacks for km, but get the range ones and taunt.
Also pick up speed/jumping/hastend/ and tough.. lastly you can either go with leadership pool for tactics or go with body.. if you go with leadership you can switch over to vills pick up sharks and switch back.. then you will have 2 medium range attack.. a strong full range attack and two heavy hitter melee.. and thats really all you need for pvp these days.. plus the taunt will force the range players into your melee range...
if you dont want to go with leadership you can pick up phaseshift for extra escape power.. and just go with laser beam eyes.. alot weaker than sharks but you can use the achilles proc for -resistance.. and you get more survivability with phase..
To the guy asking for nerfs.. you and people like you are the reason we got i13.. stop calling for blind nerfs and bring evidence to your arguments.. And make a better toon to escape from a poison.. its really not that difficult..
I play a peacebringer mainly in pvp and poison is not a problem... phase, retreat, engage = greater than poison 
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black barrier, you can sit here and argue all day with people who barely understand the english language (phoenix), but when it comes to me, no, just stop.|
Originally Posted by recalx
hmm, making a case about poison from data based off of solely "dark/poisons" is akin to making a case about therms based solely off of "elec/therms" pre-incarnates, or in team play, */em off of "psi/ems".
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When did I mention dark/poisons? I don't even know any good ones. The best poison I've fought is probably Suckafish's controller poison. Let us not make assumptions with no knowledge basis please. What are you even saying? therms and blasters? I thought we were talking about poisons. I don't even... whatever. Just like you, your case is irrelevant.
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Like I said, don't judge me. The devs have made MANY mistakes in the past and remain oblivious to further pressing issues than poisons, so this doesn't surprise me one bit.|
Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei
Judge you, no, judge your call for a nerf with no supporting data yes. The data used to support no nerf is the fact that the devs(you know the ones that actually decide what deserves to be nerfed and the power to actually nerf something), have not made any comment about the need to nerf the set.
In terms of player alienation, your call for nerfing something with no supporting data is the forum poster child for that my friend. |
Now you're categorizing me? Oh joy. write a book.
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You must have some kind of persecution complex about being judged, you weren't, but categorized, you bet. Needless nerf calls tend to lend themselves to be categorized in the way you were.|
Originally Posted by BattleWraiths Life
Like I said, don't judge me. The devs have made MANY mistakes in the past and remain oblivious to further pressing issues than poisons, so this doesn't surprise me one bit.
Now you're categorizing me? Oh joy. write a book. |
Aside from your obvious PVP butt hurtness, do you have something solid numbers wise someone like Arcaneville or anyone else can objectively review?
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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Now you're trying to psychoanalyze me? How about I categorize you? Somewhere at the bottom of the food pyramid, with cereal, because I eat kids like you for breakfast.|
Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei
You must have some kind of persecution complex about being judged, you weren't, but categorized, you bet. Needless nerf calls tend to lend themselves to be categorized in the way you were.
Aside from your obvious PVP butt hurtness, do you have something solid numbers wise someone like Arcaneville or anyone else can objectively review? |
PVP butt hurtness? Lol, you must not know bout me. Solid numbers: SuckaFisher and his little nignag imps kill you >.<
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analogies are analogies.|
Originally Posted by BattleWraiths Life
black barrier, you can sit here and argue all day with people who barely understand the english language (phoenix), but when it comes to me, no, just stop.
When did I mention dark/poisons? I don't even know any good ones. The best poison I've fought is probably Suckafish's controller poison. Let us not make assumptions with no knowledge basis please. What are you even saying? therms and blasters? I thought we were talking about poisons. I don't even... whatever. Just like you, your case is irrelevant. |
go kill yourself.
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Originally Posted by BattleWraiths Life
Now you're trying to psychoanalyze me? How about I categorize you? Somewhere at the bottom of the food pyramid, with cereal, because I eat kids like you for breakfast.
PVP butt hurtness? Lol, you must not know bout me. Solid numbers: SuckaFisher and his little nignag imps kill you >.< |
So you are butthurt because SuckaFisher keeps handing you your hat? Ok continue on with your campaign based on your swollen butt vs hard data. That is bottom of the barrel stuff there.
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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My hat is on my head, no one is handing me my hat, thank you. Does he keep beating me? YES, poison debuffs are just too outrageous, I say reduce their effectiveness by 50%, reduce the time they last to 5 seconds, or make them un-power boost-able. I have on-the-field experience, what do you have?
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Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei
So you are butthurt because SuckaFisher keeps handing you your hat? Ok continue on with your campaign based on your swollen butt vs hard data. That is bottom of the barrel stuff there.
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A Ninja/Poison MM to 50. I don't think your PvP "only" proposal is something the devs would consider since a 50% reduction to any current power has no supportive data to show that or any level of reduction was needed.|
Originally Posted by BattleWraiths Life
My hat is on my head, no one is handing me my hat, thank you. Does he keep beating me? YES, poison debuffs are just too outrageous, I say reduce their effectiveness by 50%, reduce the time they last to 5 seconds, or make them un-power boost-able. I have on-the-field experience, what do you have?
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I recognize that this raging nerf call is based on you experiencing repeated defeats, but that alone is just not enough for the devs to change the set for everyone else in the game, that would make no sense whatsoever.
Usually people that get beat up in PvP choose to refine their build and tactics and rarely if ever come here asking for a set nerf with no merit whatsoever.
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
I'm rolling with psi mastery on my psi/poison should I switch to ghost widow? I thought power boost would only boost -def, which poisons don't need that much because of auto hit.
If it boosts the -regen/damage rebuff that be crazy.
I am PL in RL.
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Originally Posted by Sinistar6000
I'm rolling with psi mastery on my psi/poison should I switch to ghost widow? I thought power boost would only boost -def, which poisons don't need that much because of auto hit.
If it boosts the -regen/damage rebuff that be crazy. |
Woooh;
Wrong :
Power boost will boost -def AND -tohit. Not damage nor regen.
And poison's debuff are not auto-hit -_-.
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TY for clarifying. This is the type of info we need. i.e If poison's debuffs were auto hit, it needs a nerf; if PB gave the debuffs more -res more -dmg more -regen, etc., either PB or poison needs a nerf. So things seem to be following that formula the devs put down a while ago. If there are builds out there that can counter /poison and win almost all of the time, it's not OP (yet cuz defender version might be). Do psy/ems or dark/colds own them? If there is a set or combination of sets that cannot be beat then we have a problem, but so far poison seems to own certain sets and get beat perhaps by other sets. Is this right?
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Originally Posted by Mc Carbonara
Woooh;
Wrong : Power boost will boost -def AND -tohit. Not damage nor regen. And poison's debuff are not auto-hit -_-. |
i'm going to refer you all to the pve boards and the search function.
pb does many other things to poison.
the pve-ers, for once, seem to understand poison better than any of you.
this is the sad status of our current pvp population.
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I ment the chocking cloud -def/resist thing.|
Originally Posted by Mc Carbonara
Woooh;
Wrong : Power boost will boost -def AND -tohit. Not damage nor regen. And poison's debuff are not auto-hit -_-. |
When I can't hit I just try to get close and listen for poison gas or whatever...
So it sounds like power boost is best with dark/poisen and trollers for holds along with -def
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Originally Posted by Sinistar6000
So it sounds like power boost is best with dark/poisen and trollers for holds along with -def
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-longer hold/mezz for troller
-stacking pboosted to-hit debuff on dark/poison
Maybe PB affect the -special effect on weaken (i don't know)
@Barrier: just "explain" what's PB boosting
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okay honey, just for you.|
Originally Posted by Mc Carbonara
-longer hold/mezz for troller
-stacking pboosted to-hit debuff on dark/poison Maybe PB affect the -special effect on weaken (i don't know) @Barrier: just "explain" what's PB boosting |
PB does more than boost the -to-hit.
Because of the way Power Boost works, it will also boost many of the -specials within Weaken. Things like the effective negative heal, run speed, and jump height enhancements are all boosted by power boost.
There, happy?
So we can all agree, the simple fix to poison is to make poison debuffs un-powerboost-able, or preferably just weaken. I think that's a happy medium that will satisfy all parties. Any objections?
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Thank you recalx
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Originally Posted by recalx
okay honey, just for you.
PB does more than boost the -to-hit. Because of the way Power Boost works, it will also boost many of the -specials within Weaken. Things like the effective negative heal, run speed, and jump height enhancements are all boosted by power boost. There, happy? |
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edit: yes.|
Originally Posted by BattleWraiths Life
So we can all agree, the simple fix to poison is to make poison debuffs un-powerboost-able, or preferably just weaken. I think that's a happy medium that will satisfy all parties. Any objections?
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gtfo.
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Originally Posted by King Krimson
just making my first foray into pvp and am looking for suggestions on a good pairing for a scrapper with km/. had a km a while back but he disappeared - probably a fit of madness. seems most folks who pvp a are a bit mad anyway.
any help is appreciated. not sure whether it will team or not. does it make a big difference and if so one of each would be good. ill play withmids after i get some more ideas. thanks for the help. |
Ditch KM. All other KMs will be ditching this set. It is horrible after the new nerf in i22. Too many peeps crying like wimps, ya, crying foul. No BU, no crit, a long long recharge and long animation for CS and they cry for mom. KM/Regen get beat in melee fights, if you watch fight club fights, but hey, who cares, when you have wimps crying foul 'cause their pride got hurt.
I don't own a KM but I have beaten a good share of them in duels. But hey, do what you want.
Repeat Offenders forever !
Make all IO's available in Paragon Market! NCSoft, the chinese are making BIG money selling influence and other stuff in the game. Best way to stop them = make the paragon market a place to buy all IO's and perhaps other things as well.
CS was broken. When there's no other reason to choose a different powerset, you know it's OP. Not that I'm saying they know how to balance powersets since now it seems like it's gimped.
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everything is gimped when it comes to melee.|
Originally Posted by Fiery-Enforcer
CS was broken. When there's no other reason to choose a different powerset, you know it's OP. Not that I'm saying they know how to balance powersets since now it seems like it's gimped.
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as it should be.
"hmm, do i want to throw fire at people or do i want to walk up to people and hit them?" ....(3 seconds later)... "think imma be dumb and pick something that requires me to go up to the target and hit it".
it takes a certain kind of person to play melee when there have always been better options, from a logical standpoint even.
Wow! I'm glad I waited till now to see all what was going on in this thread before building (busy on other projects). I'm going to rethink things, what with the changes to KM I will look another direction. Now im going to look at a melee toon (still) and a ranged toon. I have a Fire/Kin troller - is it viable? or maybe my Fire/Stone? Anyway for melee what about a SS/EA? Would it totally suck or just mostly? Thanks for the response 
Kill 'em all
Please nerf? Yes. Please present the data support the need for a nerf: No. I don't think you should be allowed to speak because you have no intentions besides alienating other players.
In terms of player alienation, your call for nerfing something with no supporting data is the forum poster child for that my friend.
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.