Do Incarnate Level Shifts Effect Drops?
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Posted on: 2011-07-28 01:52 in Player Questions
Not sure what you mean here.
If you mean "Will an Incarnate Shift affect the level of things that drop" the answer is, most of the time, no.
The only thing that has a level that will be affected by an Incarnate Shift is an SO enhancement that drops at the end of a mission.
If you were wondering about levels of IOs, it will have no effect on them, because IOs don't exist above level 50.
If you were wondering whether it would affect the frequency of drops, the answer is no there as well. The only affect you would see there is you might get drops slightly faster, but that's more of a case of you being able to defeat things faster than it is anything the level shift is doing directly.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
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Cheers, thats exactly what I was wondering. In particular I was thinking about Shards. They drop at any level as long as the mob is cons even or above. So I was wondering if the fact that 50s now con blue would mean they no longer drop Shards?
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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
If you were wondering whether it would affect the frequency of drops, the answer is no there as well. The only affect you would see there is you might get drops slightly faster, but that's more of a case of you being able to defeat things faster than it is anything the level shift is doing directly.
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It's based on level rather than con and the incarnate "levels" don't count as levels for that purpose. i.e. My 50+3 Warshade has had shard drops off Lv50 mobs.
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Thanks for the confirmation. I only wondered because I do get Shards when Exemplar'd, so I thought it might be based on con. Cheers again!
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Originally Posted by The_Spad_EU
It's based on level rather than con and the incarnate "levels" don't count as levels for that purpose. i.e. My 50+3 Warshade has had shard drops off Lv50 mobs.
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Actually to a point it is, since you can't get shards from enemies that don't con at least white to you when exemplared. If you go down to level 20, AFAIK, a level 19 minion can't drop shards. A level 19 lieutenant or a level 20 minion can though. Not too sure about things like cogs or Rikti monkeys that con under minion however.
On the other hand, level shifts are supposed to affect only your stats, not drops, so even though a level 50 minion cons blue to you once you get a T3 Alpha, it should still drop shards.
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Originally Posted by Netphenix5
Actually to a point it is, since you can't get shards from enemies that don't con at least white to you when exemplared.
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The first statement is WRONG. You can only get shards from enemies that are at least even level to you. What color they con is irrelevant. Incarnate levels do not affect eligibility for drops. Neither do the level shift inspirations.
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No, they don't.
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Originally Posted by Jagged
Simple question: Do Incarnate level shifts effect drops?
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No I'm not, since I specify that the second exemple is in the context of a level shift (as provided by any T3 Alpha ability), and I say in so many words that they aren't supposed to affect drops. I could have added "exemplared below level 45 so your Alpha shift goes poof" but I thought it was clearly implied. My bad.|
Originally Posted by Ironblade
You realize you're contradicting yourself, right?
The first statement is WRONG. You can only get shards from enemies that are at least even level to you. What color they con is irrelevant. Incarnate levels do not affect eligibility for drops. Neither do the level shift inspirations. |
I'm willing to concede that my first statement can be off base though. I was given to understand that the conning-white factor was the important one, and I know I once got a shard off a -1 Lt on a level 30 Flashback (which conned white to me - maybe it was a bug).
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Originally Posted by Ironblade
You realize you're contradicting yourself, right?
The first statement is WRONG. You can only get shards from enemies that are at least even level to you. What color they con is irrelevant. Incarnate levels do not affect eligibility for drops. Neither do the level shift inspirations. |
In common terms, conning white = even level. Maybe you don't use that as a common term, but it is pretty generally accepted that if you say something is conning white, it means it is even level to you.
It's easiest to tell what your relative level is by what color the minions are. It's easier to remember that white = even, yellow = +1, orange = +2 than it is to try and remember a yellow boss is -1 while a yellow LT is even con, while an orange minion is +2.
I got what they meant right away.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
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Except once you get an incarnate level shift, that statement is false. At least, for purpose of drops, which is what the thread is about. A level 50 minion will con blue to a level-shifted 50. But, since they are both officially level 50, the minion can drop shards.
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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
In common terms, conning white = even level.
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