Sherlock Holmes: Game of Shadows Trailer
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Posted on: 2011-07-12 20:08 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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Ok I agree Aqueline, but Aqueline is still Hawkish...or Eagleish.|
Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
Bell's nose is aqueline, if anything.
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| An Aquiline nose (also called Roman nose, hook nose or beak nose) is a human nose with a prominent bridge, giving it the appearance of being curved or slightly bent. The word aquiline comes from the Latin word aquilinus ("eagle-like"), a reference to the curved beak of an eagle. |
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Aqueline is not as curved or hooked as a hawk-nosed profile and is considered distinct from it. And Downey has more of a Greecian profile, a straight bridge, which isn't like either.|
Originally Posted by Innovator
Ok I agree Aqueline, but Aqueline is still Hawkish...or Eagleish.
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The point is, Downey differs physically from Holmes in so many ways, he has a totally different presence, which makes for an utterly different performance (not that Downey's interested in playing Holmes, really, just a fancy-dress MDJr recycling his incongruous Chaplin accent). Even Benedict Cumberbatch, who hardly resembles Holmes in most respects, has the lean kind of tallness that at least plays into the right dramatic blocking.
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Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
Aqueline is not as curved or hooked as a hawk-nosed profile and is considered distinct from it. And Downey has more of a Greecian profile, a straight bridge, which isn't like either.
The point is, Downey differs physically from Holmes in so many ways, he has a totally different presence, which makes for an utterly different performance (not that Downey's interested in playing Holmes, really, just a fancy-dress MDJr recycling his incongruous Chaplin accent). Even Benedict Cumberbatch, who hardly resembles Holmes in most respects, has the lean kind of tallness that at least plays into the right dramatic blocking. |
Downey played him messy:
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Originally Posted by The Musgrave Ritual
Although in his methods of thought he was the neatest and most methodical of mankind ... [he] keeps his cigars in the coal-scuttle, his tobacco in the toe end of a Persian slipper, and his unanswered correspondence transfixed by a jack-knife into the very centre of his wooden mantelpiece ... He had a horror of destroying documents.... Thus month after month his papers accumulated, until every corner of the room was stacked with bundles of manuscript which were on no account to be burned, and which could not be put away save by their owner.
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Originally Posted by A Study In Scarlet
Let me seewhat are my other shortcomings. I get in the dumps at times, and don't open my mouth for days on end. You must not think I am sulky when I do that. Just let me alone, and I'll soon be right. What have you to confess now? It's just as well for two fellows to know the worst of one another before they begin to live together."
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Originally Posted by A Study in Scarlet
"It is not easy to express the inexpressible," he answered with a laugh. "Holmes is a little too scientific for my tastesit approaches to cold-bloodedness. I could imagine his giving a friend a little pinch of the latest vegetable alkaloid, not out of malevolence, you understand, but simply out of a spirit of inquiry in order to have an accurate idea of the effects. To do him justice, I think that he would take it himself with the same readiness. He appears to have a passion for definite and exact knowledge."
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Originally Posted by The Musgrave Ritual
I have always held, too, that pistol practice should be distinctly an open-air pastime; and when Holmes, in one of his queer humours, would sit in an armchair with his hair-trigger and a hundred Boxer cartridges and proceed to adorn the opposite wall with a patriotic V. R. done in bullet-pocks, I felt strongly that neither the atmosphere nor the appearance of our room was improved by it.
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Christmas movie, but who cares, it's still an action movie looking to make money. I won't argue with you like some are over noses, when Holmes is more about personality than anything.|
Originally Posted by Rock_Crag
To anyone dissing the movie because it's not authentic enough.... who cares? It's a friggen summer movie. Get over it. If the transformers fans can do it, I'm sure it'll be easy enough for you.
This trailer looked decent enough... though I'm not particularly fond of seeing RDJ in women's makeup for half of it. Still... the casting of Jared Harris for Moriarty was brilliant enough to make me want to watch this as soon as it's released. He's one of my favorite actors and possess the kind of intellectual look to pull off the role nicely. |
These movies do have a strong stylistic approach, but other Holmes movies have in their own way as well. I found the first one fun overall, though it did get a little heavy into fights... I think the one that pushed it over the top for me and my wife is when they had a fight in a room, Holmes chases the big guy off with the electrical implement, but then the guy suddenly stops being scared and we have another hectic fight around a ship in drydock.
Still, it was fun overall, hopefully this one will do even better.
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Saw the trailer again, this time before seeing Harry Potter in the theater. Didn't even notice it said Christmas the first time around, my bad. lol.
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You haven't seen nitpicky until you've read Holmes fans bickering over, say, how many times Watson was married, or where Holmes actually went when he was "dead." As befits a group devoted to an intellectually driven character, Holmes geeks put the rest of geekdom to shame in their obsession with minutia. The fact that they spent all kinds of time doing this for decades before the advent of internet fora makes it all the more impressive.|
Originally Posted by DLancer
And they say that comic book fans are bad. XD
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Nah, though I am a Holmes fan (my complete works book is always at my bedside), this is more because I just like arguing with TG when I think he's wrong about anything..which is quite often. Doyle has said Bell was Holmes, that should be the end of that. TG's used that kind of argument on me before...and I still say Bell's nose is Hawk-like. |
Originally Posted by Olantern
You haven't seen nitpicky until you've read Holmes fans bickering over, say, how many times Watson was married, or where Holmes actually went when he was "dead." As befits a group devoted to an intellectually driven character, Holmes geeks put the rest of geekdom to shame in their obsession with minutia. The fact that they spent all kinds of time doing this for decades before the advent of internet fora makes it all the more impressive.
Looking back on my high school days reading the empty, scholastic debates in the footnotes of The Annotated Sherlock Holmes, I realize what great training it was for being a law professor. |
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Or put more simply, some people like arguing. I dislike arguing with anyone who ignores primary sources and refuses to acknowledge accepted definition. (And the biographic school of literary criticism went out with the late 19th century.)
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Originally Posted by Innovator
Nah, though I am a Holmes fan (my complete works book is always at my bedside), this is more because I just like arguing with TG when I think he's wrong about anything..which is quite often.
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Primary sources...as in the Author? |
Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
Or put more simply, some people like arguing. I dislike arguing with anyone who ignores primary sources and refuses to acknowledge accepted definition. (And the biographic school of literary criticism went out with the late 19th century.)
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How about the Oxford dictionary?
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Originally Posted by Oxford dictionary
aquiline(aq·ui·line)
like an eagle. (of a person‘s nose) hooked or curved like an eagle’s beak. Origin: mid 17th century: from Latin aquilinus, from aquila 'eagle' |
This is what a hawk-like nose looks like:
Because this is what a hawk looks like:
Bell's nose is aqueline, if anything.
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