Ambush Farm Support
By
baron_inferno,
Posted on: 2011-03-27 12:09 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
You do have some hope with this.
It is true that the mobs that come out of the ambush will attack you no matter what, but only as the ambush is triggered.
If the main farmer runs in and triggers all ambush triggers and you run in after or res after, then you just have large piles of mobs to deal with. Still not easy to survive but it is possible at that point. Cold/thermal domination is a good place to start with this. Both can help the primary farmer survive much easier with their shields and help them dish out more damage. Your going to have to rely heavily on inspirations. You'll need 50% def and 75%(capped, pretty much) resistance to survive. Use of vengeance and abilities such arctic fog can greatly reduce the pace of inspiration burn. Make sure you fill your inspiration with a good ratio of purp/orange inspirations beforehand.
I haven't experimented with this too much, but I can see some possibilities.
A Kin is always good to have to keep both characters damage capped that way both of you can just focus on inspirations for survivability. S/L farm would probably be best for the kin since they can softcap pretty easily.
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The devs were aware of the bile spray exploit for months as well. Just because they dont fix it right away doesnt mean they think its hunky dorry if everyone runs ambush farms.|
Originally Posted by HelinCarnate
Devs are well aware of this already and have been aware of it for months and have done nothing. Actual exploits are fixed much faster. It would seem that the devs need a bit more convincing than some people think.
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Had a redname on my ambush farm to show them how it worked. I have made no effort to hide the farm by name or by changing the name or the number. It is still up and running several months later. While it may not be with the "spirit" of AE, there are no rules being broken on those farms. (At least the ones I have seen).
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Originally Posted by SinisterDirge
The devs were aware of the bile spray exploit for months as well. Just because they dont fix it right away doesnt mean they think its hunky dorry if everyone runs ambush farms.
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Eh, the spirit of AE is what each individual user make it out to be. As you said, no rules are being broken and gaining exp in as short a time as possible is certainly reasonable. |
Originally Posted by HelinCarnate
While it may not be with the "spirit" of AE, there are no rules being broken on those farms.
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Anyways, moving on to address some of other anti-ambush farm sentiments in this thread.
I too don't believe the devs will *fix* the ambush farm because the risk vs reward is not overly skewed. The whole discussion about the relevance of *time* in the equation is misguided because *time* is a constant variable. There are simply far too many in-game or even real life factors that can influence the time it takes to complete a mission(s). Party composition, player skill, ISP, internet traffic, map server congestion, just to name a few important factors.
With that said, if a group can plow through a kill-most ITF in 45 mins and in the process getting a couple of level 35s to level 37, does that mean the ITF needs to be nerfed? What about back in the days on red side where Liberate TV farm was all the rage. Lowbies were gaining a dozen levels or more in each 40 minute run. I could be wrong since I've taken a few breaks from the game since then but I don't recall the devs ever changing that mission. In my opinion, time is a far less important (if not overrated) factor than risk or reward when it comes to determining mission balance.
A well played kin corr or troller. The corr could afford to be more mobile
INvisible + Kinetics. Speed Boost the farmer. That's it. That's the best help you can give. Keep him SB'd and that's pretty much like bottled heaven. Invisible works great, and I don't think you get aggro from SB.
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Originally Posted by Tourettes
INvisible + Kinetics. Speed Boost the farmer. That's it. That's the best help you can give. Keep him SB'd and that's pretty much like bottled heaven. Invisible works great, and I don't think you get aggro from SB.
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If you're going to stand around and do nothing as support, an Emp for AB would be better.
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My SOed level 40 Fire/Fire tank can do the fire ambush map full clear (the single room with 2 crystals and the 60 minute timer) in 8 minutes set at 0/8/bosses on which will max the ticket cap without dying or with even close to a possibility of dieing. Anybody have some brute times for a full clear on this map?
So a pretty simple fire/fire tank build needs no support and only needs burn, fire sword circle, combustion, buildup, firery embrance, fire shield, plasma shield, healing flames, consume and blazing aura. So thats like level 37? The trick is to munch the insperations as fast as they come in to max out your def, health, acc, and damage. I blow up both crystals so I have a constant stream of critters at the agro cap on me at all times. I need no support (i never bring others into my maps), but I dont know how you would ever keep anybody else alive, but since I need no support I would not care.
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Originally Posted by Mephe
My SOed level 40 Fire/Fire tank can do the fire ambush map full clear (the single room with 2 crystals and the 60 minute timer) in 8 minutes set at 0/8/bosses on which will max the ticket cap without dying or with even close to a possibility of dieing. Anybody have some brute times for a full clear on this map?.....
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sorry. thread got lost amid i20 prep. anyone who wants the sonic demo just hit me up on pinn @james donner.
"If a system can be exploited, it will be exploited. And if a developer thinks their system cannot be exploited, it'll be exploited like a new actress in her first porn movie." Sanya Weather MMORPG Examiner
if anyone would like a lesson in how to not get your 2nd killed I'll be happy to demonstrate on Pinn.
"If a system can be exploited, it will be exploited. And if a developer thinks their system cannot be exploited, it'll be exploited like a new actress in her first porn movie." Sanya Weather MMORPG Examiner