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Posted on: 2011-01-25 06:19 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Damn it to hell, I liked that old, new animation. Is there some reason the devs outright replaced it instead of adding it as a new option?
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Originally Posted by Cynical_Gamer
Damn it to hell, I liked that old, new animation. Is there some reason the devs outright replaced it instead of adding it as a new option?
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It's not that I hate the new version - I just think it would've been so much cooler if we had access to BOTH versions so that we could choose which ones we liked better.
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It's because people were complaining about having two seperate eye beam attacks. I guess they assumed everyone disliked the second one. I thought it looked cooler than the first... Sigh.
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Okay...
So, the new X-Ray beams has been proven to have some pretty decent use as demonstrated by Golden Girl's post, there.
But I also liked the "Lean in and FIRE!" animation. On top of that, I'm not using a character who is wearing gloves like that.
So, what the Hell happened, and why isn't it in the patch notes?
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Originally Posted by Lothic
The Devs seem to have a bad habit of REPLACING previous options instead of simply ADDING new options to the game.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
REPLACING previous options instead of simply ADDING new options
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Originally Posted by Lothic
simply
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I'm glad you do because really have no idea what you're getting at here.|
Originally Posted by SpittingTrashcan
I see what you did there.
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Hopefully it was unconsciously witty or insightful. *shrugs*
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You asserted without evidence that every time the developers do replace one thing with another, it would be more simple to add the new thing without removing the old thing. In this particular case, it is notable that every other power that has an alternate animation has only one alternate animation. I can conceive of a number of reasons why this should be so, and why adding a third would be non-trivial. It is unfortunate when the developers decide to remove anything from the game - for just about anything in the game, you could probably find someone who loves that thing dearly just the way it is, and I think they're not unaware of that. But saying that the choice to add instead of replace is always simple misrepresents the situation.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
I'm glad you do because really have no idea what you're getting at here.
Hopefully it was unconsciously witty or insightful. *shrugs* |
More pithily: standard code rant plus standard design rant.
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Okay...
So, the new X-Ray beams has been proven to have some pretty decent use as demonstrated by Golden Girl's post, there. But I also liked the "Lean in and FIRE!" animation. On top of that, I'm not using a character who is wearing gloves like that. So, what the Hell happened, and why isn't it in the patch notes? |
Also, you might want to apologise to Bass for calling him/her Golden Girl
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Originally Posted by Mr_Grey
So, the new X-Ray beams has been proven to have some pretty decent use as demonstrated by Golden Girl's post, there.
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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by SpittingTrashcan
You asserted without evidence that every time the developers do replace one thing with another, it would be more simple to add the new thing without removing the old thing. In this particular case, it is notable that every other power that has an alternate animation has only one alternate animation. I can conceive of a number of reasons why this should be so, and why adding a third would be non-trivial. It is unfortunate when the developers decide to remove anything from the game - for just about anything in the game, you could probably find someone who loves that thing dearly just the way it is, and I think they're not unaware of that. But saying that the choice to add instead of replace is always simple misrepresents the situation.
More pithily: standard code rant plus standard design rant. |
Since I didn't bother to approach my post from a strict software point of view I obviously glossed over the ramifications of what it would have actually taken to retain the previous animation in favor of a more general point about how there are multiple examples where the Devs have chosen to replace options instead of add new ones. While SIMPLY adding a second thigh-hi boot option in the costume editor menus may have been relatively easier to implement than a third power animation, I still think the general philosophical point of "not cheesing off customers regardless of the code involved" still applies regardless.
It's likely the limitation of the software that you assumed exists kept them from retaining the third animation. But that doesn't address the larger issue at hand: if there is such a limitation then that needs to be tackled eventually, or at least before they start swapping one animation for another in other cases.
There might be a "standard code rant applies" here. But I think the Devs were also in a position where they made, potentially, the lesser of two choices and continued the precedent of making shortcut decisions in these cases instead of fixing the core problems involved.
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Okay...
So, the new X-Ray beams has been proven to have some pretty decent use as demonstrated by Golden Girl's post, there. |
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Sorry about that, Bass.
I'd go back and edit, but it's too late, now. May as well run with it.
Also, might want to take it as a sign to change your avatar. It's funny as Hell, but with Golden's increased presence, it's going to get confusing again (like when you first changed to that avatar).
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Anyone else not getting a sound when shooting X-Ray Beam? I have a Rad Blaster and every other power fires off as normal with normal sounds. I think I can make out a faint noise before the beams actually fire, but every time I fired it off, it was silent when the beams actually shot forth. I like knowing if my power worked by the sound it makes when there's a lot going on. No sound, to me, means it got interrupted or didn't fire off at all.
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I'm leaning toward the predownload being a bug. It looks like only those that logged in and off within a few hours of the patch got one. Test updated from the current live build to Issue 19.5 with a patch that was about 25 MB. I really doubt that the stuff for the next booster would be around the size of an entire issue.
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Still no predownload.
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