Official Roster: Average Joes
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Posted on: 2011-01-13 19:51 in Everything about PvP
GG AJs was some fun Officials last nite!
Artic and the Chillz - Champion PvP League
Exile - Champion PvPEC 3v3-5v5 League
Exile - Freedom 5v5 PvP League 2012
Exile - Freedumb PvP League 2011
Exile - CAPE PvP League
GG's guys, and thanks for the practices earlier on.
GG's AJ
First off, it was Venny, not Vinnie.
Chris wasn't playing the game anymore, he didn't have an active account. He didn't ditch a team *to* join any other.
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Don't want to extend the drama here but most leagues have had a waiver that only one of a person's accounts can be present in a match at one time, to prevent account-sharing, which is a bannable offense through NC, not that they would do that as they can't really prove it. The rule wasn't there this time though, it seems.|
Originally Posted by CriticalKat
I have no problem with that. People on the roster sharing each others accounts has been done since pvp started in this game in every organized pvp league and ladder.
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Pretty sad this team had to disband, it was fun while it lasted.
Thanks for picking us up AJ.
Questions about the game, either side? /t @Neuronia or @Neuronium, with your queries!
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If he wasn't even subscribed to the game and wasn't active with his own team, then what the **** was he doing playing in an official match for a different team? You didn't need him to play so why do it in the first place?
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Originally Posted by Vexington
First off, it was Venny, not Vinnie.
Chris wasn't playing the game anymore, he didn't have an active account. He didn't ditch a team *to* join any other. |
"His Imperial Majesty's Minister of Restraints and Leather" -LHF
Two naughty acronym teams / Ascension / Convenient / Artic and the Chillz / Fap / Other teams I can't remember (sorry.. mind is goin')
It was me !!!
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A team dropped because of the loss of a player, thus effectiveness. That player was a captain. They lost 3-0 in a set of games, then rage-quit. This isn't some new happening. You can ***** and whine about what you think happened, but really, it's irrelevant. |
Originally Posted by SmokeSignal
If he wasn't even subscribed to the game and wasn't active with his own team, then what the **** was he doing playing in an official match for a different team? You didn't need him to play so why do it in the first place?
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Personally, I don't care. I'm probably quitting this game anyway. I log in once a week, long enough to play 3 matches, sometimes not even that. People who are making excuses to quit is funny, but not unexpected.
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I'm doing neither. Just saying that if what happened happened as presented, it's ****** up.
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Originally Posted by Vexington
You can ***** and whine about what you think happened, but really, it's irrelevant.
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"His Imperial Majesty's Minister of Restraints and Leather" -LHF
Two naughty acronym teams / Ascension / Convenient / Artic and the Chillz / Fap / Other teams I can't remember (sorry.. mind is goin')
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Let me first address the "You can remove chris post." That was because Chris told us that he quit the game. Not because I had some secret plan to get him to join ours. |
Originally Posted by CriticalKat
That is interesting being you said
before I was ever added to the roster. In fact you said that before anyone besides nanu was added to the roster. If you had not said that then I would have traded nanu for a draftee rather than him going on core and I would have came in on the other open core spot and chris wouldn't have been dropped. Actually If Chris was actually still on the team and showing up I probably wouldn't have ever been asked to join nor would they have needed another person. So your statement doesn't add up. The simple fact is that Chris for whatever reasons didn't want to play for this team anymore. Rather than a trade be worked out (lol chris turning down to be traded for vinnie btw) he just ditched. I really don't care being I just joined tonight anyways and as I said I didn't really want to do this league. What I do care about is this type of stuff happens every league by the same people. You are right that every league or ladder does this stuff. However being you started this league my hopes were up really high that for once you would have some integrity. You could have stepped up and said "ok chris you want to play for us then let me offer AJ's a semi-decent trade and lets do this the right way". You didn't. He is a jerk and a kidd so its no big surprise how he handled it. You however are a full grown adult who supposedly wants fun pvp in this video game who is also in a leadership position so you could handle stuff better. |
Second bolded remark: Really? Same people? When have I done this before? O that I snuck into the champion league? I offered my identity to the other teams just refused to play for elf stalker. Yeah that league was a joke first of all. Second was I a leader in that group? No. Was Vex? No. Was Chris involved? No. I mean if you are coming at Psoma and Mebs I think you are looking at the wrong team.
Infact the FpvpL we allowed u2bg to win the league despite them cheating and running D8ers on d6ers account so please kat go into details where there is a trend of cheating involved in our past.
Third Bold: When have I not shown integrity please bring out a past example.
Forth bold: How do you know? Are you a peeping tom?
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Originally Posted by Neuronia
Don't want to extend the drama here but most leagues have had a waiver that only one of a person's accounts can be present in a match at one time, to prevent account-sharing, which is a bannable offense through NC, not that they would do that as they can't really prove it. The rule wasn't there this time though, it seems.
Pretty sad this team had to disband, it was fun while it lasted. Thanks for picking us up AJ. |
Did we complain when AJ traded an inactive player for Kiel screwing over L&T? Nope in fact we were willing to trade venny for him. Did we complain when you dissolved your team into 2 other teams? Did we complain about you and reaver switching accounts? (we didnt complain just used it in our favor later).
I tried to help every team out any way that I could. I gave artic advise, Hot and even you kat.
I can understand teams wanting to quit knowing full well that they cannot win. I even understand the fear that is in dUmb right now. I would be afraid too since we fought them without 2 of our starters last time and still put up a 18-4 romping. Either way I dont care anymore. Im done trying to convince people of the truth when they only want to grasp to excuses of why they cant succeed. We all made the rules we can all be to blame or you can scape goat Vex and I since you seem to do it so well. PZ Im out.
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Why does no one ever look at the two ties, the win before and the win after that match and think "Hey maybe there was something else going on, on dUmb's side" that caused that result.|
Originally Posted by Daknah
I can understand teams wanting to quit knowing full well that they cannot win. I even understand the fear that is in dUmb right now. I would be afraid too since we fought them without 2 of our starters last time and still put up a 18-4 romping.
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Say, Firi trying to play from a hotel room internet and lagging like crazy, and Sir having a similar issue that kept him off near every target. Unfortunately at the time, those were the 8 we had on. Just sayin.
The next round we were able to sit those two out for people who showed up late, but had stable connections. I don't think the issue is we are afraid to fight anyone, ringers or not. Its just what is the point of calling it a playoff when teams are being absorbed, dropped, restructured, etc.
*Edit* Mebs is getting too slow at trolling.
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Originally Posted by Daknah
I can understand teams wanting to quit knowing full well that they cannot win. I even understand the fear that is in dUmb right now. I would be afraid too since we fought them without 2 of our starters last time and still put up a 18-4 romping.
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Good job beating us without one of our top blasters, and our top emp. And having two of us lag out. Very well done. 8v6s are tough.
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All 5 we were without our top blaster and the last 2 were without our top emp. And we had 2 lagging out as well. Rule #76: No excuses play like its champion.
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Originally Posted by DaveMebs
Good job beating us without one of our top blasters, and our top emp. And having two of us lag out. Very well done. 8v6s are tough.
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Oh so it was even then. And we won 2-1. GG.
Let me start by saying when I say "same people or same team" I am not referring to just you, or Vex for that matter. Several on your team were part of the U2BG drama during last Freedom League. Several including yourself were part of the Champion league drama.
I really think you are missing the entire point. You keep bringing up Reaver playing my account. Reaver was on our roster. I was on our roster. You didn't go in to the match expecting to play with certain players only to discover players not even on the team or roster playing in the match. You comparing Reaver playing my account to someone not even on your roster playing you account (not the first time you guys have done this either...random shoutout to HOJ ect.) is not even close to the same thing.
Ringers have been done forever and ever. Hell I remember Reaver playing my emp on my second account during an official on test because we needed one. I can remember UW playing my account during an official. So I am not saying that it hasn't been done or that I am above reproach. What I am saying though is that you started this league. You out of everyone should have been the one setting examples of fair pvp. You guys didn't even need a ringer. You knew the situation regarding Chris and how he left his team. You chose to just go with the flow rather than doing things the right way. Had you used HOJ or Vinnie as ringers I bet this end result wouldn't have happened. You used Chris knowing the situation.
Maybe Rice did dissolve the team because we lost. I don't know. Doesn't really make sense being they were securely in the finals win or lose last night. That doesn't change that you could have handled things differently. You didn't, the team dissolved and really no one cares. Except the people on the team who wanted to keep playing.....
And the whole you can remove Chris post...had it not been posted on the exact same day he played for your team that statement might not look like BS.
I am done with this convo because really I don't care and the people who do care would have posted their feelings about it but they didn't care enough to get involved with the drama. Hopefully dUmb will win this thing so that just for once a team who plays fairly wins in the end. *shrugs*
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Originally Posted by Daknah
Let me first address the "You can remove chris post." That was because Chris told us that he quit the game. Not because I had some secret plan to get him to join ours.
Second bolded remark: Really? Same people? When have I done this before? O that I snuck into the champion league? I offered my identity to the other teams just refused to play for elf stalker. Yeah that league was a joke first of all. Second was I a leader in that group? No. Was Vex? No. Was Chris involved? No. I mean if you are coming at Psoma and Mebs I think you are looking at the wrong team. Infact the FpvpL we allowed u2bg to win the league despite them cheating and running D8ers on d6ers account so please kat go into details where there is a trend of cheating involved in our past. Third Bold: When have I not shown integrity please bring out a past example. Forth bold: How do you know? Are you a peeping tom? You can thank Kat for exposing that lapse in the rules. Once she used it on us we stored it away for a rainy day in hopes of running Vinnie or Hoj, someone that could actually make a difference in an 8v8. Did we complain when AJ traded an inactive player for Kiel screwing over L&T? Nope in fact we were willing to trade venny for him. Did we complain when you dissolved your team into 2 other teams? Did we complain about you and reaver switching accounts? (we didnt complain just used it in our favor later). I tried to help every team out any way that I could. I gave artic advise, Hot and even you kat. I can understand teams wanting to quit knowing full well that they cannot win. I even understand the fear that is in dUmb right now. I would be afraid too since we fought them without 2 of our starters last time and still put up a 18-4 romping. Either way I dont care anymore. Im done trying to convince people of the truth when they only want to grasp to excuses of why they cant succeed. We all made the rules we can all be to blame or you can scape goat Vex and I since you seem to do it so well. PZ Im out. |
just my opinion but there is no fair in pvp
play for teh fun of it n u wont feel hurt
kat - u by disbanding ur team, was dat leading my example? u could have kept it together for 1 more final regular season wk.
aj - for those dat wanted to continue playing, therez kbs on champion sat nite/wed nite.
random shout out to fates who started dis whole mess
I stepped down from leadership 3 weeks ago due to RL crap but being it was never done officially on the boards I wanted to help those that wanted to play for a team get on one being the team had fallen apart. Not that I owe any explanations....
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Originally Posted by igotpunkipowa
just my opinion but there is no fair in pvp
play for teh fun of it n u wont feel hurt kat - u by disbanding ur team, was dat leading my example? u could have kept it together for 1 more final regular season wk. aj - for those dat wanted to continue playing, therez kbs on champion sat nite/wed nite. random shout out to fates who started dis whole mess |
The team was doing fine until u decided to come back and clean house.
They showed up, they played, they tried.
U r rite, u dont haf to explain urself so dont ask others to explain their behaviors.
Actually - Kat tried to keep her team together - after our match PF and Condro quit, Kat talked Condro into staying for the people who still wanted to play but in the end I think they all decided to call it quits. She even went as far as to trade out people to get them placed on other teams so they could continue playing.
With egos bruised and feelings hurt all we can do is laugh. We take things so seriously we dance. So as MCR said "I am not the singer that you wanted, but a dancer. I refuse to answer, talk about the past, sir. Wrote it for the ones that want to get away. KEEP RUNNING."
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There is no point arguing with tweedle dum and tweedle dee, they thrive off **** like this.
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Originally Posted by CriticalKat
I am done with this convo because really I don't care and the people who do care would have posted their feelings about it but they didn't care enough to get involved with the drama. |
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good job beating us when 4 of us were forced to use certains toons that we couldnt play so good as our mains. Vex as an emp , dex as a blaster etc. Not trying to be a d**k but yeah you really havent beat us with our mains. we were forced to use those toons because we had hardly 8 and some people had only 1 toon to use for the match.
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Originally Posted by DaveMebs
Good job beating us without one of our top blasters, and our top emp. And having two of us lag out. Very well done. 8v6s are tough.
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Anyway I don't think I should be talking at all in this but have to ask something.
I thought you all guys made the league not just Dex. I thought you all made the best team possible and that you really would like to play and try what you can do in this thing. Having a team breaking is something that leader's should discuss and end to a solution. Having people quit for being stupid is also retarded. Only few are doing it for the right reasons. Next time there should be an 8 member core so everyone would be satisfied and get 3-4 more for the bentch
No from what I was told Vinnie was offered as a trade for Chris a few weeks ago and he turned down that opportunity to go to that team. Then turned around and ditched his team with no trade to go to that same team. I don't blame Rice for disbanning that was shady. Especially being it was Chris's idea to form AJ's to begin with and the purpose of forming up was to beat the team he ultimately ditched his own team to go play with.