No New Slots Make Respec Hard

To many 1 slot wonders for me to worry heck I still left one out of one of my builds that i would have liked to keep.

Also I like the no extra slots it makes you have trade offs and make tough decisions

But with things like Conserve power, Physical Perfection, assault, combat jumping recall friend hey stick a kb protection in their free bonus

I don't think it makes things hard, but interesting. It opens a lot of new options and gives a lot to think about and consider to make sure each slot is not vasted. I hope they won't add more slots, as it's now a lot of fun to make a proper build.

Respecs with inherent fitness make regular hero setups more like Warshades and Peacebringers in their difficulty. I don't relish the though of respeccing my Warshade, that has Sprint, Hurdle, Stamina already...and picking 3 new powers for her. Yeesh...overwhelming.

I had the same thought before i19 released. At first I was excited to have 3 power slots available, but then I heard nothing about more slots. So, I starting planing in mids builds that had 3 powers with only 1 slot in them. With this concept in mind I built w/o Sprint, Stamina or Health and slotted Brawl/Rest with the slots I wanted to dedicate for Sprint, Hurdle, Stamina and/or Health. I usualy dedicate 2 slots for Health and Stamina each sometimes 3 if its a endurance heavy build.

For my DA/DM tank I took Tactics, for an additional 2.5% defense. I took Cloak of Fear cause I had to take something and I took Kick each with 1 slot. CoF I might use, kick maybe just to fill a milisecond gap in my attack chain.

I dont like feeling that I have to take something just to be taking it, but maybe my next build(s) will be more creative.

Why not getting some 1-slot extra-crispiness?

If you didnt had it yet, hasten, even with one slot, will help a lot.

Do you use superspeed? why not getting Stealth? It will give you superb infiltration qualities.

Are you tired of Teleporting>falling>teleporting>falling? Hover it!

Some leaderships, even at base values, are nice to have for some crazy moments.

Tired of infiltrating and having to deal with everything alone? Catch some Recall Friend.

Want some wooziness? Whirwind it!

Want some cheap laughs? Group Fly.

Remember that power from primary/secondary that you couldnt insert into your build because of something else? Do it! At least you can taste a bit of how they work.

A single slot Vengeance is still Vengeance... Its not hot... but people always said that vengeance should be served cold...

You can always find something to fit your build, even with the free starting slot.

A lot of my toons are getting those powers mentioned.

On my Archery Blaster I was able to grab Recall Friend and Teleport, which is very handy for fast travel since he's a flier (especially with Boost Range) and grab my snipe just for fun. I only needed two slots total (I slotted the snipe with three Dam/Range HOs just for fun), which weren't too hard to free up (thank you Fly speed boost) and now I am able to travel extremely fast, bring slower teammates to the objective, and I have a snipe that is so long range I need to target through a spotter just for laughs
(If it were a more serious build, I'd have gone with Stealth for a LotG and the ability to stealth missions, but since this character is all about long range a 240+ foot snipe was too funny to pass up).

I will repost an earlier response, from the 'what would you like to see in i20' thread.

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Originally Posted by Mr ? A few more Slots for powers. As i19 is putting fitness as inherent, giving players three more power picks. Builds are going to be even tighter, so we are going to need the extra slots for the new picks. With that in mind, the idea I have is at a 'slots' level the following will become the new way 1 - 30, still 2 slots at level up 30 - 40, still 3 slots at level up 40 to 50, 4 slots at level up. Giving another seven slots to place into the new power picks. For the existing characters a freespec would be needed as you would be given the slots, when you actually respecced your character into the i20 build. This would be nice to see but I don't think it will actually happen (would love to be wrong here).

If we were to get more slots... I'd probably have them come from level 48 and 50, where instead of three slots each for those levels, we get six slots each for those levels, as a 'reward' for reaching near and at the max level of 50.

If six extra slots seems a bit too much, then just level 50 giving six slots would be enough for me. :3 It never really made sense to me that the final power you pick is generally a 'filler power' since it can only have four slots at most.

The two of my three 50's that I actually play were effectively "complete" without Fitness (meaning, they hadn't taken Fitness, and did not *need* it), so being able to pick up Fitness absolutely free was quite nice for me. (Kin/Dark Defender and Shield/Dark Tank, for the record)

After that came the Fire/Kin Corruptor sitting at 34-ish. He got to pick up a couple extra powers he didn't have room for yet (what, I honestly cannot remember now...), while keeping much-needed Stamina. Then came the Rad/Fire Blaster. Same thing. Pick up powers I didn't have room for before (like Fire Sword).


I really don't see how inherent Fitness could *possibly* be a bad thing... >.>

On the note of getting more slots, what I would *love* to see, but I'm guessing will never happen is...

Pick from slots OR a power EVERY LEVEL. No power you want at 12? Take a slot of two instead! Don't need slots at 21? Take an extra power!

The thing that a lot of the "give us more slots" folks just refuse to see is that the reason for making Fitness an inherent set wasn't so that we'd have an additional 3 power choices. Had the developers wanted to, they could have accompanied the Fitness change by reducing the number of power slots by three and shifting around what powers and slots players earned at what levels. But that would likely have been quite a bit of work when it was just as feasible an option to leave the level-up progression as it was, resulting in a coincidental 3 extra power slots now being available.

Had the devs' intention been to give us 3 extra power slots, and making Fitness inherent was the means to that end, they probably would have given us extra slots. But it wasn't, so they didn't.

I understand why we aren't getting a ton of new slots. How about just 4 or 5 when we hit 50 so the lvl 49 power can be slotted well. That's all--in essence 1 or 2 more slots, not many.

Actually, I don't understand why we have to get a power at 49. Change the level you gain the final 4 powers to 41, 43, 46 and 48. That gives you 5 slots at level 50 to put in your 48 power, and an extra you can put somewhere else.

Heck, make it 40, 42, 45 and 48. Then the progression is exactly the same as the 30's. 2 - 3 - 3 - 2.

Keep in mind that if we set the precedent now that whenever the devs add a new Inherent power, they MUST add more available slots, that makes it highly unlikely we will ever GET new Inherent powers. Previous additions like Walk and the Swap Ammo toggles have not taken slots, but that's because of the way they work. It also precludes the possiblity that Walk may someday become a combat power that could have slots added to it.

It could also be argued that if we get extra slots for Inherent Fitness, then all Vets who select the Prestige Sprints should be awarded slots for them, too.

I would say that out of the 40+ toons that I have with all but 4 of them being level 50, I was able to improve almost every single character even without having extra slots.

Every Tank picked up Conserve Power and Physical Perfection for the Chance for +End Proc.

Every Brute was able to pick up Taunt, Superior Conditioning and Physical Perfect. Taunt to help build fury and TWO Chance for +End Procs slotted in those two powers.

Every Controller got Recall Friend. My Ice/Storm finally picked up O2Boost to heal Jack Frost.

Defenders who didnt have it all got leadership pool.

Corruptors also got leadership pool.

Some toons I havent gone over in a while I TOTALLY reworked IO's and sets and they got A LOT better..

There were only TWO toons that I could see NO improvement from with a respec. The Dominator will get getting Alpha slottagle to help him with End.

Its been a pain.. but pretty ive gotten improvement across the board.

What I find hardest about respecs is what it does to power orders. One of my scrappers has 6 1/2 trays filled with temp/dayjob/vet powers, and several that aren't on any trays. He'd benifit from inherent fitness, but I'm absolutely dreading having to re-arange everything on him.
As for lack of extra slots, consider franken-slotting maybe? I can think of a few sets with good 3/4 slot bonuses and 3-4 aspect IOs in them, combine them with another set's 3-4 aspect IOs to round everything out. Granted, this doesn't work with every power or build plan, but if you really wanted I'm sure you could squeeze an extra slot or 3 out (at least, if the powers you pick would provide a noticable benifit with the extra couple slots).

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Originally Posted by BackAlleyBrawler That...was a Herocon 09 exclusive easter egg. The powerset will not have doves associated with it. Namely because you guys would want to color tint the damn doves, or make them hawks/ravens/flying sharks/etc and that's just a headache I do...not...want...to deal with.

One of the key thing being overlooked is the ability to take core powers MUCH earlier in your build. No longer do you have to push powers BACK because it was to your advantage to take Stamina ASAP.