Is it possible to solo the STF?


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If a mind/ dom can finish an LSF solo, can he do the same with the STF?


 

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Though 2 people now have solod the LRSF (myself and kevin - fiery-enforcer), no one to my knowledge has managed the STF. There are various reasons for this. One factor is that there are level 54 AVs rather than level 53 as in the LRSF. Another factor is the towers. Basically it comes down to how would you kill Recluse with his towers? There's no one to confuse other than the flier at that point (which isn't reliably damaging enough in my experience), and even if one of the patrons were still there somehow, a mind dom can't reliably confuse a level 54 AV due to the purple patch. 53 is manageable, but 54 is too difficult, in my experience.

It is my opinion that you would need something other than a dom, if it is possible. I have theories as to how someone might use a different AT to manage it, but haven't tested them yet.


 

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Originally Posted by RadioSilence View Post
If a mind/ dom can finish an LSF solo, can he do the same with the STF?
On paper... no.

The big problem is Lord Recluse and the towers which super-buff him. From Paragonwiki: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/STF
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Red: Status Effect Bonus(Knockback, Disorient), +105% DMG(Smashing, Lethal, Energy), +105% Res(Smashing, Lethal, Energy) (hardcapped at 100%)

Orange: +200% DEF(All) (hardcapped at 175%), +17.7 Protection(Hold, Immobilize, Disorient)

Green: Healing, +MaxHP (hardcapped at 150% or 46015.73 hp), +2000% Regen

Blue: +30% ToHit, +1000% Recharge (hardcapped at 400%), +200% Run Speed
Basically, with these buffs, on top of Lord Recluse's status as a Level 54 Archvillain, soloing is numerically impossible. For starters, Lord Recluse's Base To-Hit on top of the To-Hit advantage from just being an Archvillain, never-minding a level 54 archvillain, means he will hit through defenses that approach 2x soft-cap: e.g. he's hit through 90% defense.

Also, his damage is super-buffed, and even if you have capped 90% resists on tank, he'll still hit like a freight train.

On paper the only mez affect that might work is sleep, since it's not covered by the Purple Triangles. As Khalan brings up, there is a question on whether or not you can do anything with a build that can perma-sleep a level 54 archvillain.

In the LRSF you can confuse a level 53 Hero to attack the other enemies. In STF Lord Recluse will only spawn when the 4 Patron Archvillains are down. Neither the Flyer, the flyers spawned pets, or the Lord Reclused Summoned Pets, can actually do any meaningful damage to Lord Recluse with towers up, and it's questionable whether or not they could touch him with the towers down..

It's also unlikely, although I've never tried it, that you could direct confused summons from Recluse, confused summons from the flier, or the Flier itself to all focus on a single tower to begin with.

Without at least the damage tower down, there's no way any archtype can really sustain a fight against Lord Recluse.


 

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Originally Posted by je_saist View Post
Without at least the damage tower down, there's no way any archtype can really sustain a fight against Lord Recluse.
Ill/ with perma-PA can tank LR all the dippity doo day, buffs or no.

Yes, getting the towers down is another story. Yes, actually killing LR, despite his last-minute massive Bane summon, is another story. But perma-PA can sustain a fight against LR just fine.


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killing lord recluse with all towers up is pretty impossible regardles of any situation because it hard caps almost all of his stats (rech, speed, hp, regen, dmg, tohit, defense, and being immune to smash, lethal, and energy dmg)

and on top of the lvl 54 AV status as well

if you could perma sleep or confuse him maybe he would kill his own towers, thus weakening him to where you can confuse the flier (if possible) or his minions to smack him around since everything he summons is also lvl 54


 

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You might be able to sleep LR, I'm not sure since I've never tried it. Although, the problem with that is even if you could technically sleep him, you wouldn't be able to keep it on him with all the defense he has with the towers up.

You can't confuse him either way since he has something like 200 mag protection, just like Statesman.


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a perma mind dom can sleep recluse


 

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I'd say no. Let's say you've got him perma slept somehow, now you have the problem of doing enough damage to the tower and sleeping him. He was awake for a second? Say goodbye. You left the tower alone to re-apply a sleep? Why hello Mr.Repairman.


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I know this doesnt count, but I have a friend that pays for 6 or 7 accounts and he can multi-box it by himself. This isn't what you were looking for, but its kinda cool.

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We should be able to DUO all of them, grouping is so 2005-2009. I mean still even with Going Rogue released, at 4-6 am no one is really on ever. I'll never get these things done.


 

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What about an elec/psi dom? You have a repeat effect sleep thats permable and then some if you were lazy, and unresisted damage you could use to smash the towers. Since your aoe sleep constantly refreshes itself every 5 seconds, you get a hell of an overlap when you get two or three of those sleeps working. The question then is, can you do enough damage with psi to the towers with ranged attacks while babysitting recluse in his sleep bubble? After that, it seems reasonable that you could even beat on recluse with asleep reapplying itself ever 2-3 seconds with your overlapped bubbles. IIRC, the sleep bubbles also eat end.... If you were patient, you might even be able to drain his end as well, leaving him a tiger with no teeth but lots of claws...


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