Latin America and Going Rogue
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Brillig,
Posted on: 2010-08-13 16:50 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
This is probably a stupid question, but can't you just buy GR straight from NCSoft's website? I'm Germany and I managed to buy the US version of GR just fine.
I have a proxy if you want to use it, it should work. PM me if you want details.
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Nope, it's blocked for them.
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Originally Posted by Noxilicious
This is probably a stupid question, but can't you just buy GR straight from NCSoft's website? I'm Germany and I managed to buy the US version of GR just fine.
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[CENTER]Euro side: [B]@Orion Star[/B] & [B]@Orions Star[/B][/CENTER]
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Its blocked because we have an official retailer...|
Originally Posted by Orion_Star_EU
Nope, it's blocked for them.
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An official retailer that wont sell the GR...
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Originally Posted by KayJMM
This is an official response from one of the representatives of LEVELUP Games, the official retailer of City of Heroes on the South America:
QUOTE: We only commercialize the game-time cards. FINISH QUOTE. That means everyone here that wants to play GR must risk thenselves and use a proxy server to buy the expansion. Or pray for the IP-regional block to be disabled. |
*palmface*
*headdesk*
It would be nice if NCsoft took notice of this and did something to correct it.
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South America has a huge problem with credit card fraud and NCSoft isn't willing to deal with it the financial penalties they get charged by the credit card companies when fraudulent charges are processed. It sucks big time for our South American brethren, but it's an ugly situation.
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Originally Posted by Noxilicious
This is probably a stupid question, but can't you just buy GR straight from NCSoft's website? I'm Germany and I managed to buy the US version of GR just fine.
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Not trying to sound like a jerk but how can NCSoft force a third party business to offer/carry their products?
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Originally Posted by Schismatrix
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*palmface* *headdesk* It would be nice if NCsoft took notice of this and did something to correct it. |
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Official retailer implies a greater level of involvement than some random company ordering a bunch of time cards from the NCsoft store. At least it does to me. It would be reasonable for an official retailer to be expected to promote the company's products, not offer less than shady third party sites.|
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Not trying to sound like a jerk but how can NCSoft force a third party business to offer/carry their products?
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Can people in South America use Paypal to purchase stuff from the NCsoft store, or are all transactions from that area blocked?
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There is an IP regional block. I can use my card everywhere in the world, and i can use paypal too. But as I access from the blocked range, the payment dont matter. Using a proxy program its possible to bypass the block and do just fine. And its only on the store, as I can use my card to pay for my subscriptions plans on all my accounts.|
Originally Posted by Schismatrix
Official retailer implies a greater level of involvement than some random company ordering a bunch of time cards from the NCsoft store. At least it does to me. It would be reasonable for an official retailer to be expected to promote the company's products, not offer less than shady third party sites.
Can people in South America use Paypal to purchase stuff from the NCsoft store, or are all transactions from that area blocked? |
I got GR with the help of a friend that lives outside the block. But i know of a lot of people that dont have someone they can trust that can bypass the regional IP block that way. A very close friend of mine will probably use a proxy server to upgrade his account.
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My dream is actually the ingame store to be so advanced that we could upgrade/add the boosters from inside the game, just like it happens on Guild Wars. I got all expansions and all releases on GW that way, without needing to use an external site.
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I'm curious. Are you able to use Amazon Web Services (aws.amazon.com)? They rent servers by the hour, so anyone could rent a linux box for about 8 cents and set up a proxy server for an hour. They even will rent a box running Windows server, so you could use that directly. Either way, you'd be coming from a US IP, so no regional block.
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You do realize that many manufacturers do exactly this with many retailers, yes? To get recognition/signage/preferential treatment as an official retailer retail outlets frequently agree to carry specific products and accessories from a manufacturer. Manufacturers like Hewlett Packard will even mandate what the prices will be.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Not trying to sound like a jerk but how can NCSoft force a third party business to offer/carry their products?
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Hmm... interesting... I will look on how it works... probably I will be able to use it and upgrade a few accounts for some friends. I dont care if I have to pay for that access, as I have the cash (and actually even got myself a big raise this year).
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Originally Posted by Brillig
I'm curious. Are you able to use Amazon Web Services (aws.amazon.com)? They rent servers by the hour, so anyone could rent a linux box for about 8 cents and set up a proxy server for an hour. They even will rent a box running Windows server, so you could use that directly. Either way, you'd be coming from a US IP, so no regional block.
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************* 22 XxX 10 *************
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There's a lot of stuff on that web site - what you'll want is EC2, that's the service that lets you run linux or windows instances in Amazon datacenters.
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Hmm, a Linux instance plus a Linux native Firefox installation? That should in theory get you a web browser from a US address. The sticking point here s probably if you're allowed to use the Amazon Web Services. It's astoundingly cheap, though.
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Originally Posted by Brillig
There's a lot of stuff on that web site - what you'll want is EC2, that's the service that lets you run linux or windows instances in Amazon datacenters.
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Originally Posted by Schismatrix
You do realize that many manufacturers do exactly this with many retailers, yes? To get recognition/signage/preferential treatment as an official retailer retail outlets frequently agree to carry specific products and accessories from a manufacturer. Manufacturers like Hewlett Packard will even mandate what the prices will be.
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That only works when the retailers have competitors. The manufacturer has the freedom of saying if you don't like this we can go across the street and deal with your competition.
In South America there is only the one retailer (Why I have no idea). They can tell NCSoft what their willing to carry and if NCSoft doesn't like it then their players can find another way to pay for their subscriptions.
You could say that retailer has a monopoly in that area.
So how do you force a retailer to do something you want when they can say, "Go ahead and pull your time cards. Your gonna lose more money if you do that then we will."
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Manufacturers that have a lot of weight to throw around can do that. But this is NCSoft, not HP.
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Schismatrix misses an important part: You do realize that many manufacturers do exactly this with many retailers, yes? To get recognition/signage/preferential treatment as an official retailer retail outlets frequently agree to carry specific products and accessories from a manufacturer. Manufacturers like Hewlett Packard will even mandate what the prices will be. |
Dec out.
This is an official response from one of the representatives of LEVELUP Games, the official retailer of City of Heroes on the South America:
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We only commercialize the game-time cards.
FINISH QUOTE.
That means everyone here that wants to play GR must risk thenselves and use a proxy server to buy the expansion. Or pray for the IP-regional block to be disabled.
** Guardian�s Crazy Catgirl **
************* 22 XxX 10 *************
Yes. I can get lost on a straight-line map.