PvP Viability: Spines/Dark ?


Celidya

 

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Hi there, i was thinking about it for a while but i thought i'd ask here as it's probably the best place.

My main character after a ton of alts is my spines/dark scrapper, now that i'm done and happy with her main build (full purple) and she's where i want her to be for pve, i was wondering if it would be worth it to think about a second build for pvp.

I don't like pvp enough to make a specific character for it (especially since pvp is all about ST focused characters, while i'm an aoe fanatic) so i'm thinking about a second build just to be able to do something when someone wants a duel, or go out in the pvp zone and have some fun.

When i tried a long time ago (like 1,5 years ago) with that character and the cheap IO build she had, it was quite an epic fail, i remember doing some arena vs a bot/dark MM and i didn't stand much chance, neither against other ATs usually. I could survive by superspeeding, build up, throw one attack, heal then run until recharged but that was quite ineffective.

Now with some changes to pvp (i think) i'm wondering if it's always hopeless with dark armor. I read spines is (was ?) somewhat good but the problem is dark armor: it's my favorite powerset in the game and i'd like to find a way to make it work for PvP. Main issue i can think about would be the to-hit check for the heal, and the fast most toggles would drop at the first CC against me. I'm quite good when it comes to kiting and jumping in and out of melee for the heal and i can say for sure DA doesn't need to be in melee all the time, so my main worries would be to make sure it lands.

How does it work these days with the to-hit ? Any hope to make it somewhat effective ? I don't mind losing against good pvpers as i probably will have a lot to learn, however i'd like to stand a chance and be a little threat to whoever i encounter, not ending up completely neutered by to-hit debuffs/high defense/whatever. While i don't care to lose or win, what i want is some good fights more than anything, means not 3sec spike dps fights or paper/rock/cissors where one spec will totally destroy the other one 100% of the time.

Thanks in advance for any info/tip about that combination, and if anyone got it to work well enough in pvp, i'd appreciate a build or some advices. I'd sure be proud to make that character work as i bet nobody ever tries to PvP with that, however i don't have enough knowledge at all about the PvP mechanics for powers to make my own idea if something is viable or if there's no chance to overcome the odds.


Dark armor lover.

The Claws/DA Scrapper guide.

 

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Not worth it


 

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you can pvp with just about anythign now and days.


Spine/dark full purp probably means you dont have heavy end using issues anymore. Go for it and see. you already spent billions worth so go for it.


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you can pvp with just about anythign now and days.


Spine/dark full purp probably means you dont have heavy end using issues anymore. Go for it and see. you already spent billions worth so go for it.
No, no, and no.

Trying to PvP on a Dark is an absolute waste of time and inf.


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but he already invested the inf.


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but he already invested the inf.
build something better

transfer IOs

???

profit

spines is a good choice, but yes dark is not going to be worth it


 

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spines is a good choice
If this were two years ago (or if you were talking about a Stalker) you'd be right. I13 didn't exactly hose Spines (well, free resists to everything makes all that toxic DoT lose its appeal pretty fast, and Ripper and Throw Spines are more or less bad now), but it made BS, Fire, and (lol) MA that much better. I hate every minute I play my Spines/Regen now just because I think of how ****** it is compared to what it used to be like.


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I invested the inf for the first build, strictly PvE, so i was just thinking about a second build, i didn't invest anything for it yet.

But i guess i'll just wait for another character i like that would be more suited for that, thanks for the answers ^^


Dark armor lover.

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If this were two years ago (or if you were talking about a Stalker) you'd be right.
2 years is right, i stopped about then and have been going off memory and some added stuff i've noticed since resubbing, and i don't know why but i was thinking stalker when i said that


 

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Originally Posted by Celidya View Post
I invested the inf for the first build, strictly PvE, so i was just thinking about a second build, i didn't invest anything for it yet.

But i guess i'll just wait for another character i like that would be more suited for that, thanks for the answers ^^
oh, then. Well hey, the forum is full of good info. But when you find a good charcter make haste as a good one today might be bottom of the barrel tomorrow.


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