Did The Archetypes Become Weak?


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All the archetypes I play seem to die super fast but tankers, controllers, Masterminds, Domanitors. My two Kinetics corrupter, can't kill a boss without leveling or useing confuse anymore. The Blasters die to fast for me to kill stuff, and Stalkers always sucked. Scrappers and Brutes take to much damage... Maybe I play Champions to much : P Oh well I guess I will stick with the Tanks, Controllers, Masterminds, Domanitors hehe. Did they change anything in the past 6 months?


 

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Welcome to my world! hehe. I had a cold/ice defender who couldn't finish a newspaper mission on heroic in less than an hour.

My advice, and it has helped me immensely, is to pick your favorite character and post the build in the appropriate forum and ask for help. Someone will be along to tell you how to fix it up.

Be sure to include information about your budget (in order from least expensive to most expensive: cheap sets/frankenslotting --> all SOs --> expensive sets but no purples -->purples but no PvP IOs --> anything goes), your goals (regular activity, some task forces, soloing AVs etc), and how often you exemplar down to lower level.


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Originally Posted by Power_NA View Post
All the archetypes I play seem to die super fast but tankers, controllers, Masterminds, Domanitors. My two Kinetics corrupter, can't kill a boss without leveling or useing confuse anymore. The Blasters die to fast for me to kill stuff, and Stalkers always sucked. Scrappers and Brutes take to much damage... Maybe I play Champions to much : P Oh well I guess I will stick with the Tanks, Controllers, Masterminds, Domanitors hehe. Did they change anything in the past 6 months?
I've never had these problems. Scrappers and Brutes are great soloists. Blasters are fine, Stalkers are fun. Spend some time in the AT subforums and learn how to build/play those ATs if you are having trouble and want to improve.


 

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Originally Posted by Power_NA View Post
All the archetypes I play seem to die super fast but tankers, controllers, Masterminds, Domanitors. My two Kinetics corrupter, can't kill a boss without leveling or useing confuse anymore. The Blasters die to fast for me to kill stuff, and Stalkers always sucked. Scrappers and Brutes take to much damage... Maybe I play Champions to much : P Oh well I guess I will stick with the Tanks, Controllers, Masterminds, Domanitors hehe. Did they change anything in the past 6 months?
Nothing changed.

Make sure you havent set your difficulty higher than standard if you are having problems.

Corrupters can't confuse?

Use inpirsations more. That will help a lot.

Temp powers from market might help as well.


 

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So... 6 months gone from game. I'm going to ask some obvious-sounding "Is the computer plugged in" type questions.

Did you forget about enhancements? Are these new characters? Are you using Build Up and Aim as available? Are you playing them all the same way?

If you pick a specific example of a character, a fight and a set of tactics you use that get you killed, maybe we could help.


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Didn't some of the enemies get a nudge towards working as they were supposed to?

I thought some enemy groups weren't using all of their powers to the best of their ability. I know that Malta for example are managing to hold some of my characters that had enough mez protection to laugh at them a couple month ago.


 

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Either that you don't have the the right build set up or not sloted the right way, I really don't have no problems with my toons.


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Didn't some of the enemies get a nudge towards working as they were supposed to?

I thought some enemy groups weren't using all of their powers to the best of their ability. I know that Malta for example are managing to hold some of my characters that had enough mez protection to laugh at them a couple month ago.
Only a few enemies have changed to my knowledge, and all in the late game where the diversity of powers may have had something to do with them not using some properly before. That said, i've only noticed a couple enemies as being tougher and overall game play hasn't changed for me beyond the problem with leveling a bit too quickly in the lower levels. Then again i've always sought out missions against groups like CoT, Malta, Carnies and Arachnos whenever they're available, so i may not be the best example of an average player.


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Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade View Post
Welcome to my world! hehe. I had a cold/ice defender who couldn't finish a newspaper mission on heroic in less than an hour.
There's your problem. Your Defender should be doing radio missions instead of newspaper missions.


 

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Didn't some of the enemies get a nudge towards working as they were supposed to?
There have been two major changes:
1) Enemies that have defense or mez protection toggles will activate them earlier in battle than they used to.
2) A bugfix caused some late-game enemies (eg. Malta) to use mezzing powers that they previously weren't using.


 

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Last edited by Power_NA; Yesterday at 10:08 PM. Reason: I can't find the delete button. :P I decide I want to delete this : P
While it is possible, there's no real point. Deleting it only really replaces your post with "this user has deleted the post" or somesuch. Leaving the rest of the thread (including any quoted text from your deleted post) intact.

Best probable way to deal with it is to post or edit in something along the lines of "mea culpa; figured out the pebkac problem" (yes, yes, redundant redundancy), and PM your friendly neighborhood mod(08?) with a polite request to lock your thread.

Although if you really are having trouble with some powersets/archtypes; might not be a bad idea to follow up on some of the above advice and give us some specifics to better allow us to render assistance.


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Do you team? With the way you talk about blasters, it sounds like you may not really understand aggro and damage mitigation. I get most of my mitigation in the form of teams.

Some ATs rocks socks. Some combinations aren't the best for certain things. If you want to see power, get a katana/wp scrapper or a ill/anything controller. Those don't die easy.

Some types are best for solo, some best for PvP, some best for farming, etc. Some support toons, like a Fire/Rad, when gathered together, are one of the most hellacious teams in the game.

Also, many toons bloom late. I've never gotten a spines/ to 20 because of this. [Plus, I hate the sound of quills]

Learn the game. If it were really really hard, we'd all be talking about it.

That said, I don't play some ATs. I don't Tank due to the responsibilities to the team and my feeling that I can't see everything at once. Though helping the team doesn't bother me as a controller. Mostly, I'm a scrapper at heart.

Edit - Oh, but with i17 there are some serious difficulty variations between missions, radio missions, so that a level 0 diff will still spawn +2 and twice as many enemies as it should. These are too hard, imo, and get ridiculous if you have the wrong team, or Leeroy Jenkins on your team.


 

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Originally Posted by Power_NA View Post
All the archetypes I play seem to die super fast but tankers, controllers, Masterminds, Domanitors.
um, then you're "doing something wrong". Nothing has been changed. I was soloing last night with a sonic/sonic defender. Radio missions were going a bit slower than I remembered and I wondered why I wasn't seeing any enemies conning less than orange. Oh, duh, I had been on a team and set my difficulty to +2 levels.

Soloing a defender at +2 and my only issue was that it was going "a little slow". I didn't die at all. Unless your difficulty is turned up, I can't imagine why you would be having a problem.


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I think you need to just keep playing and get the hang of it. Stalkers should be the easiest to play, at least for me.


 

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LOL

The tag for this thread is priceless.


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