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BrokenPrey

By BrokenPrey,
Posted on: 2010-06-04 14:41 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion

 

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Hello,
This is a question for the number peopl, but what would do more damage in the long run? A DM/SR Brute or a DM/SR scrapper?

I dont know who to create?

Thanks in advance.

 

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Originally Posted by Post_Apocalypse View Post
Hello,
This is a question for the number peopl, but what would do more damage in the long run? A DM/SR Brute or a DM/SR scrapper?

I dont know who to create?

Thanks in advance.
In theory... the scrapper: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Damage_Cap#Damage

Thing is scrappers get critical strikes, so while their base damage cap is lower than a brutes, 500% versus 850%, the scrappers effective critical damage is 500%x2, or 1000%

The big problem is that you'll rarely ever be at damage cap without outside support. Soul Drain's performance figures on a brute are actually lower than a scrapper's: 8% base / 40% base :: Scrappers do 10% base / 50% base.

Now, I honestly haven't run a DM brute and DM scrapper to 26 to compare figures, but on paper, the Scrapper's higher buff values are going to compensate for the Brute's Fury Advantage.

Then the scrapper's critical strikes add atop that.

So, in theory, the scrapper should deliver a more powerful punch.

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In reality, I think the answer is both

The Brute's higher Hit point cap means it can stay in a fight longer, and the Fury generation will enable it to sustain a higher damage rate without relying on Soul Drain to generate some punch.

 

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Brute have a higher damage cap and maintain higher endurance than a scrapper. In general, Brutes are the highest DPS of any of the melee ATs because of their inherant. Which if maintained properly gives them a significant advantage.

 

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My conclusion: it's a wash. Either one is going to be fantastic. Scrapper damage tends to be more predictable and smooth. Brute damage can be very spiky and bursty depending on the amount of fury you are generating.

Neither DM/SR brute or DM/SR scrapper will stand head and shoulders above the other.

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"You're right...I forgot...being constantly at or the near the damage cap is a big turn off. Definitely not worth it."
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Originally Posted by Tal_N View Post
Brute have a higher damage cap and maintain higher endurance than a scrapper. In general, Brutes are the highest DPS of any of the melee ATs because of their inherant. Which if maintained properly gives them a significant advantage.
Brutes also have lower base damage than Scrappers. A Brute at the damage cap does only a tiny bit more damage than a Scrapper at the damage cap (about 3% more), but a Brute will almost never hit the damage cap unless teamed with two Kins or something while a Scrapper theoretically can hit it with one Kin. Essentially, both are almost dead even on damage solo or on a team with massive damage buffs, and the Scrapper has a slight advantage on a team with moderate damage buffs.

That said, /SR Brutes are tougher than /SR Scrappers. The scaling resists work better with a Brute's larger HP total. So really I'd call the Brute the (slightly) better choice overall since he's more survivable and has as much damage in most situations. But ultimately both are similar, so it really comes down to which playstyle you prefer.

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Create both, and whichever you like more, play that one!
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