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Fire_Minded asks the unthinkable.

Borris_Black

By Borris_Black,
Posted on: 2010-05-31 03:38 in Scrappers

 

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Originally Posted by DSorrow View Post
I think this thread is quite funny. It might be because in one thread you cry about being owned in PvP (by Stalkers, but the AT doesn't really matter) and in this one you want to build a Claws/Inv for it. What should we think about that?
That he's a masochist that wants to keep on getting pwned in PvP?

 

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I'd actually like to team with him. He's got spirit. Probably a "leaping scrapper" like I am.

 

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Originally Posted by Fire_Minded View Post
Ok, im about to ask the unthinkable from the forum goers for a Scrapper I want to gear for PvP.

Im going with a Claws/Invln build.Im requesting the following for my build.

High Global Recharge IOs, additional Damage through Global Damage IOs, Additional Resist IOs, Moderate Recovery IOs, and minor to Moderate Accuracy IOs.

My focus will be on excellerating my Dull Pain to be recharged fast first and formost, and the rest of the requested IO increases are secondary concern.

I would perfer not having it in a Mids format, but a mapped out IO and Slot chart for use.

Thank you for your time.I want to be a Vanguard Sword Soldier in PvP, and will look as such.

Purple IOs will be fine, I finally have a farmer I can live with.
This post has it all.

- Are you a grammar freak or a spell check nitpicker? There's more than enough to go around.

- Are you a user of Mids? Check!

- Do you hate RPers or concept builds? Check!

- Do you hate number crunchers? Check! (Amazing that you can fit both in, well played)

- Do you hate PvPers? Check!

- Are you a PvPer who knows how much this build combo sucks? Check!

- Do you know enough about IOs to know that his targets are lame and silly? Check!

This was a work of mastercraftsmanship. Give the man his props, people!

 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire_Minded View Post
Ok, im about to ask the unthinkable from the forum goers for a Scrapper I want to gear for PvP.

Im going with a Claws/Invln build.Im requesting the following for my build.

High Global Recharge IOs, additional Damage through Global Damage IOs, Additional Resist IOs, Moderate Recovery IOs, and minor to Moderate Accuracy IOs.

My focus will be on excellerating my Dull Pain to be recharged fast first and formost, and the rest of the requested IO increases are secondary concern.

I would perfer not having it in a Mids format, but a mapped out IO and Slot chart for use.

Thank you for your time.I want to be a Vanguard Sword Soldier in PvP, and will look as such.

Purple IOs will be fine, I finally have a farmer I can live with.

A lot of ways to go on a build for this combo. As noted it is weak burst damage and always will be. But perhaps a scrapper / blaster concept similar to this could interest you. Not knowing what pools you like makes it tough but I took a half-hearted shot at it. You will have to spread sheet it yourself.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.601
http://www.cohplanner.com/

For Grins: Level 50 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Claws
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Blaze Mastery

Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Strike
(A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
(3) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(36) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(36) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
(37) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(37) Accuracy IO


Level 1: Resist Physical Damage
(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%


Level 2: Temp Invulnerability
(A) Titanium Coating - Endurance
(3) Titanium Coating - Resistance
(7) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
(13) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance
(15) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance


Level 4: Dull Pain
(A) Doctored Wounds - Recharge
(5) Doctored Wounds - Heal
(5) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
(25) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(39) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance


Level 6: Slash
(A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
(7) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
(13) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
(37) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
(43) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(46) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance


Level 8: Follow Up
(A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
(9) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
(9) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
(15) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
(50) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure


Level 10: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(11) Recharge Reduction IO
(11) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 12: Swift
(A) Run Speed IO


Level 14: Super Speed
(A) Run Speed IO


Level 16: Unyielding
(A) Titanium Coating - Endurance
(17) Titanium Coating - Resistance
(17) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
(19) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance
(19) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance


Level 18: Health
(A) Miracle - +Recovery


Level 20: Stamina
(A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(21) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy
(21) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
(34) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End


Level 22: Focus
(A) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage
(23) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(23) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(29) Devastation - Chance of Hold
(34) Gladiator's Javelin - Accuracy/Damage
(40) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)


Level 24: Assault
(A) Endurance Reduction IO
(25) Endurance Reduction IO


Level 26: Tactics
(A) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge
(27) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance
(27) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge
(33) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff
(33) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(40) Rectified Reticle - Increased Perception


Level 28: Invincibility
(A) Red Fortune - Defense
(29) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
(31) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
(33) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
(34) Red Fortune - Endurance
(39) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed


Level 30: Stealth
(A) Red Fortune - Endurance
(31) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
(31) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
(36) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
(39) Red Fortune - Defense
(40) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed


Level 32: Invisibility
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed


Level 35: Phase Shift
(A) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 38: Tough Hide
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed


Level 41: Char
(A) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage
(42) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(42) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(42) Devastation - Damage/Recharge
(43) Gladiator's Javelin - Accuracy/Damage
(43) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)


Level 44: Fire Blast
(A) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage
(45) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(45) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(45) Devastation - Chance of Hold
(46) Gladiator's Javelin - Accuracy/Damage
(46) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)


Level 47: Ring of Fire
(A) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage
(48) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(48) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(48) Devastation - Chance of Hold
(50) Gladiator's Javelin - Accuracy/Damage
(50) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)


Level 49: Resist Elements
(A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance


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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)


Level 1: Sprint
(A) Unbounded Leap - +Stealth


Level 2: Rest
(A) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 1: Critical Hit

 

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Pasted in the bonuses and data block, I dont know why.



Set Bonus Totals:
21% DamageBuff(Smashing)
21% DamageBuff(Lethal)
21% DamageBuff(Fire)
21% DamageBuff(Cold)
21% DamageBuff(Energy)
21% DamageBuff(Negative)
21% DamageBuff(Toxic)
21% DamageBuff(Psionic)
3% Defense(Smashing)
3% Defense(Lethal)
3% Defense(Fire)
3% Defense(Cold)
3% Defense(Energy)
3% Defense(Negative)
3% Defense(Psionic)
3% Defense(Melee)
3% Defense(Ranged)
3% Defense(AoE)
30% Enhancement(Range) (in PvP)
4% Enhancement(Heal)
16% Enhancement(Accuracy)
55% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
5% FlySpeed
256 HP (19.1%) HitPoints
5% JumpHeight
5% JumpSpeed
MezResist(Immobilize) 15.4%
MezResist(Sleep) 4.4%
MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
20% Perception
12.5% (0.21 End/sec) Recovery
48% (2.68 HP/sec) Regeneration
3.78% Resistance(Fire)
3.78% Resistance(Cold)
1.26% Resistance(Energy)
1.26% Resistance(Negative)
9% Resistance(Psionic)
5% RunSpeed



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Set Bonuses:
Crushing Impact
(Strike)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
15.1 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
7% Enhancement(Accuracy)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Steadfast Protection
(Resist Physical Damage)
3% Defense(All)


Titanium Coating
(Temp Invulnerability)
MezResist(Sleep) 2.2%
20.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints


Impervium Armor
(Temp Invulnerability)
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
3% Resistance(Psionic)


Doctored Wounds
(Dull Pain)
MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
1.26% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
4% Enhancement(Heal)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Mako's Bite
(Slash)
MezResist(Immobilize) 3.3%
20.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints


Crushing Impact
(Slash)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
15.1 HP (1.12%) HitPoints


Mako's Bite
(Follow Up)
MezResist(Immobilize) 3.3%
20.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
3% DamageBuff(All)


Titanium Coating
(Unyielding)
MezResist(Sleep) 2.2%
20.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints


Impervium Armor
(Unyielding)
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
3% Resistance(Psionic)


Performance Shifter
(Stamina)
5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed
25.1 HP (1.87%) HitPoints
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery


Devastation
(Focus)
12% (0.67 HP/sec) Regeneration
30.1 HP (2.25%) HitPoints
3% DamageBuff(All)


Gladiator's Javelin
(Focus)
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery, 7.5% Enhancement(Range) (in PvP)


Adjusted Targeting
(Tactics)
2% DamageBuff(All)
1.26% Resistance(Energy,Negative)
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Rectified Reticle
(Tactics)
20% Perception


Red Fortune
(Invincibility)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
1.26% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
2% DamageBuff(All)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Luck of the Gambler
(Invincibility)
7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Red Fortune
(Stealth)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
1.26% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
2% DamageBuff(All)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Luck of the Gambler
(Stealth)
7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Luck of the Gambler
(Invisibility)
7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Luck of the Gambler
(Tough Hide)
7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Devastation
(Char)
12% (0.67 HP/sec) Regeneration
30.1 HP (2.25%) HitPoints
3% DamageBuff(All)


Gladiator's Javelin
(Char)
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery, 7.5% Enhancement(Range) (in PvP)


Devastation
(Fire Blast)
12% (0.67 HP/sec) Regeneration
30.1 HP (2.25%) HitPoints
3% DamageBuff(All)


Gladiator's Javelin
(Fire Blast)
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery, 7.5% Enhancement(Range) (in PvP) (Exceeded 5 Bonus Cap)


Devastation
(Ring of Fire)
12% (0.67 HP/sec) Regeneration
30.1 HP (2.25%) HitPoints
3% DamageBuff(All)


Gladiator's Javelin
(Ring of Fire)
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery, 7.5% Enhancement(Range) (in PvP) (Exceeded 5 Bonus Cap)


Aegis
(Resist Elements)
3% Resistance(Psionic)






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Thank you Punkture, your the man!

Im glad someone understands that I wanna try to make something bad into something good.Even if its not the best and never will be.

Postagulous, your pretty much right with your assessment, and im great to team with.Most other people suck with even the highly advertised builds.Im great with the sucky ones.

As for the rest of you mouthy people who wanna pound on someone because they wanna try something you wouldnt?Understand that just because you want someone to troll on or thread jack, doesnt mean im going to listen to your lame mouthing about how im a moron simply because you say so.I really dont care how many of you there are, just because theres more of you types of snarky, arrogant, and self absorbed people who think somethings only 1 way, and only that way, doesnt make you right, at all.

Thank you for your time.

 

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Some one has a humility issue


Your character does not have capped defense. Depending on your AT the cap is between 175% - 225%. Your defense is not teal in the combat window, it can go higher. STOP SAYING IT IS CAPPED! The correct term is Soft Cap.
I enjoy playing in Mids. I specialize in Melee Characters, other AT's usually bore me.

 

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Originally Posted by Fire_Minded View Post
I really dont care how many of you there are, just because theres more of you types of snarky, arrogant, and self absorbed people who think somethings only 1 way, and only that way, doesnt make you right, at all.

Thank you for your time.
That coming from someone who tries to be different just to be different, is really funny. Oh and did your eyes burn out from the mids and IO use?

 

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If there are only 2 things I've learned in all my browsing of the forums, especially this forum its that:

a) any advice you ask for should be considered rather then disputed. 9 times out of 10, the individuals giving it know what they're talking about and only want to save you the trouble of trying to wade into something that will only produce far less than favorable results.

and

b) I've definitely tried to go against the grain when it comes to building characters, many many many times (no exaggeration, I still do). In pve it most certainly can work in your favor and who doesn't like to see odd combos flourish comparably to ones that might be considered common or fotms.

and here comes yet the same or similar speech you've already be given... *ahem* (clears throat)

But PvP is something else, and in order to enjoy it you have to stay competitive. In your case especially considering your "pvp woes". PvP is unbalanced as just about everyone knows so its obvious why certain sets will out perform most others. A set like invuln won't be able to have that competitive edge especially when you consider, like others have said, powers like invincibility and invulns' playstyle in general. It works best when surrounded by enemies and you certainly won't be in pvp. Even if you could be we all know how valuable defense is in pvp :P. You won't be able to anticipate and heal back the inevitable damage spikes that you will face with that set. Period.

I would definitely encourage you (as others have) to save yourself the trouble and consider another secondary for your scrapper if you're serious about pvp. I just know I would hate to put all that time into a character just to see it under perform against any avid pvper.

 

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That posted build has pvp IO's in it.
Id imagine between just the javelins and the Lotg +recharge's your lookin at a multi-billion dollar build.
If claws/invuln is the powerset combo you plan to use in pvp to get those IO's, good frickin luck. If you plan on buying those IO's good frickin luck.

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My favorite combo is Faceplant/DebtCap with the TeamWipe Ancillary

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Originally Posted by Dispari View Post
Yeah, I like Blasters too.

 

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IBTL*

*In Before Troll Leaves (again)

 

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Fire Minded.

Here's a build you deserve. Enjoy!

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.707
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Claws
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Medicine
Power Pool: Leadership

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Swipe -- RechRdx(A)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- ResDam(A), ResDam(3), ResDam(3), ResDam(5), ResDam(5), ResDam(7)
Level 2: Strike -- RechRdx(A)
Level 4: Slash -- RechRdx(A)
Level 6: Spin -- RechRdx(A)
Level 8: Follow Up -- RechRdx(A)
Level 10: Temp Invulnerability -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(11), RechRdx(11), RechRdx(13), RechRdx(13), RechRdx(15)
Level 12: Dull Pain -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(15), EndRdx(17), EndRdx(17), EndRdx(19), EndRdx(19)
Level 14: Resist Elements -- ResDam(A), ResDam(21), ResDam(21), ResDam(23), ResDam(23), ResDam(25)
Level 16: Unyielding -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(25), RechRdx(27), RechRdx(27), RechRdx(29), RechRdx(29)
Level 18: Confront -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(31), RechRdx(31), RechRdx(31), RechRdx(33), RechRdx(33)
Level 20: Focus -- RechRdx(A)
Level 22: Resist Energies -- ResDam(A), ResDam(33), ResDam(34), ResDam(34), ResDam(34), ResDam(36)
Level 24: Aid Other -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(36), EndRdx(36), EndRdx(37), EndRdx(37), EndRdx(37)
Level 26: Stimulant -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(39), EndRdx(39), EndRdx(39), EndRdx(40), EndRdx(40)
Level 28: Aid Self -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(40), EndRdx(42), EndRdx(42), EndRdx(42), EndRdx(43)
Level 30: Resuscitate -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(43), EndRdx(43), EndRdx(45), EndRdx(45), EndRdx(45)
Level 32: Invincibility -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(46), RechRdx(46), RechRdx(46), RechRdx(48), RechRdx(48)
Level 35: Eviscerate -- RechRdx(A)
Level 38: Shockwave -- RechRdx(A)
Level 41: Tough Hide -- DefBuff(A)
Level 44: Unstoppable -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(48), RechRdx(50), RechRdx(50), RechRdx(50)
Level 47: Assault -- RechRdx(A)
Level 49: Tactics -- RechRdx(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- RechRdx(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(7), EndRdx(9)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx(A), IntRdx(9)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 6: Ninja Run



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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
Fire Minded.

Here's a build you deserve. Enjoy!
Hyper: You forgot to 6 slot Brawl.. You're slipping.

 

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I can't wait to see him come back to these boards to complain when his character that he spent all the time/effort/influence required to make the build that's been posted fails as horribly as Challenger did.

Oh the wailing and gnashing of teeth!

Also, Hyper, that build looks alright, except Resist Elements might be a tad underslotted for resistance.

Where to now?
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Originally Posted by Panzerwaffen View Post
Hyper: You forgot to 6 slot Brawl.. You're slipping.
Give him an actual, usable attack?

Be serious!


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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
Give him an actual, usable attack?

Be serious!
Good point. What was I thinking?? I blame the lack of coffee.

 

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You're not funny. Just Stop trying to be funny all the time!
The term is "snarky".

The answer is "no".

The solution, if you don't like it, is to put me on ignore.


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