Just got this on my Dark/Cold corr. Was sweet because as they spawned, I nuked them, popped blues and went to town. The nuke floored their accuracy until after I whittled the group down to a manageable size. Giddy fun. 
Off to try some other characters.
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Absolutely terrified to encounter 8 of my Dark/Dark Brute. 8x Oppressive Gloom = perma-stun, 8x Death Shroud ticking away at me.
Exactly which powers to the Dopplegangers get anyway?
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Just did this with my lvl 50 Bots/Traps MM. I was expecting one helluva fight. Right before I activated the 3rd set of clones, I gave my Assault Bot about 7 red insps and popped 6 purples for myself...then I clicked the computer to unleash the clones. As they spawned I ran in and threw down caltrops....after that I targeted each clone one by one and set my bots on them as they were trying to spawn their own bots. All in all...the fight lasted about a minute and I didn't take a single hit....overall, much easier than I expected.
What is happening is it copies your costume and makes a copy of your toon as AE would do.
This means if you are a melee toon your clone will have a ranged attack because melee sets had ranged attacks attacks added to them in AE to prevent exploitative behavior.
Because AE power selections aren't set up like ours the npc version of you may have powers you don't. In some cases they may have an entirely different powerset all together, such as traps being replaced by devices.
Just like custom bosses in AE these clones can do a LOT of damage and tend to be much harder than regular bosses.
For instance: I started the mission at +2 and a single version of my fire/traps turned fire/devices wiped the floor with me until I used a handful of inspirations. I turned it down for the final battle to +0 and solo'd the AV with no insp/temps. Fighting the +0 version of me again after than and I had to use a couple def insp. Basically AE bosses can (and often are) much more dangerous than Dev created AV's due to their incredible offensive power.
Pretty fun arc though, much more involved on multiple levels than other content.
I just did this with my Widow.. WOW!
They stacked Mind Link on each other, used multiple smoke grenades so I could not even see them, and they love to Placate and Elude.
It was brutal.
lucky this isn't a 35-40 level range, don't think I could cope with 8 fluffies as well as 48 bots.
BTW, what if /dark clones had howling twilight in their powerset??? 
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I got this badge on my DM/EA brute without dying or using any termp powers or inspirations. (Set to +0).
lolEA, right? You have to know how to build one right to make it godlike, and frankly the clone makers don't. I just shredded my clones. Hahaha. "Perfected clone? GTFO." I got alarmed when nearly all of them used Energy Drain at once, since it's autohit, but it didn't wreck my toggles. I'm guessing it's because the power saps only 10 endurance "if target is player." Hahaha.
Anyway, didn't really come here to brag, just to offer a fresh breath of air to all of you who experienced something grueling and brutal. There are toons that can wtfpwn 8 of their clones handily enough.
I'm not even gonna try this one on my Widow, though. Yeesh.
Here is a tip for you Masterminds out there.
If you have a Patron Paower such as Mu Mastery like I have. Here is what I did to make the fight easy.
I popped Demonic, (if you don't have Demonic, pop a few purples) then gathered all the Clones and their Pets at a corner, I used my Electric Fences and immobilized more than half of them. After that I ran to another corner and the remaining Pets and Clones ran to me even though their pets were immobilized, this allowed me to take only half of them at once, and it was pretty easy doing it that way.
I found immobilizing the Mastermind Clone's Pets and pull only the Mastermind Clones to a different part of the map, left them out of bodyguard mode and allowed me to kill them quite easily 
Hope this helps!
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Yep And don't play as Mastermind too lol, I tell you your Clone will Summon pets and that be all 8 Clones with pets. I agree to the Above To and maybe a Nuke form Warburg to, they always helpful for just about anything.
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Now that was a fight! Eight clones of my main villain badge hunter all summoning their bots and mowing me down with laser fire
Things to have for this: 1. Purples: OH lots and lots of purples! 2. Demonic Aura ready! 3. Slot up and prepare all temp powers including day job accolades that you may have charged up. 4. Shivans? eh, didn't have any but I suspect they may have helped. But the one temp power to have that will significantly tilt the odds BACK into your favor and help mow down the clones? Vanguard Heavy. Get one if you can before doing this mission. |
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umm but how, when the 1st patron power you can access in flashback is @ lvl38? This arc is set at 25-30
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Here is a tip for you Masterminds out there.
If you have a Patron Paower such as Mu Mastery like I have. Here is what I did to make the fight easy. I popped Demonic, (if you don't have Demonic, pop a few purples) then gathered all the Clones and their Pets at a corner, I used my Electric Fences and immobilized more than half of them. After that I ran to another corner and the remaining Pets and Clones ran to me even though their pets were immobilized, this allowed me to take only half of them at once, and it was pretty easy doing it that way. I found immobilizing the Mastermind Clone's Pets and pull only the Mastermind Clones to a different part of the map, left them out of bodyguard mode and allowed me to kill them quite easily Hope this helps! |
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It was entertaining though.
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I just did this with my Widow.. WOW!
They stacked Mind Link on each other, used multiple smoke grenades so I could not even see them, and they love to Placate and Elude. It was brutal. |
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Hmm wonder how a dark/shield brute would fare with team buffs from Grant Cover.
Also I can see a demon/poison mm doppleganger been nasty.
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I was quite relieved to discover (thanks to a Power Analyzer I got on another toon; increased temp power drop rate ftw!) that 8x Shield Brute clones don't stack Phalanx Fighting or Grant Cover. But that still didn't stop my 8 War Mace/Shield clones from curb-stomping me through 4 purple insps and 2 orange insps. Think I ended up having to stack 6 purples in order to start taking them down.|
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Hmm wonder how a dark/shield brute would fare with team buffs from Grant Cover.
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Still dreading this on my Bots/Dark...
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Its insanely horrible.... I basically ended up dieing due to running out of insps, temp powers/pets after about 15mins of mayhem, and still all 8 clones were standing afterwards |
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Still dreading this on my Bots/Dark...
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Its insanely horrible.... I basically ended up dieing due to running out of insps, temp powers/pets after about 15mins of mayhem, and still all 8 clones were standing afterwards
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Alternatively run this on a decent team. Did this arc on a team of 8 and strolled through this without any bother at all.
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* Me too. We had so much fun in a 5 man team we ran it again with a different leader. First was with a Widow, then a MM. People were a little worried when I suggested 8 again for the Necro/Dark MM run, but my Ice/Psi domi said "Doesn't make a difference, they're all getting AOE Held & then Ice Patched anyway". Nice of those flawed waves to show up beforehand and get me to Domination.
No possible way I could do it solo though, I think my Dark/WP Brute would be the only character I'd have who might have a chance at it.
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What difficulty settings are people doing this at? Mostly curious about those who have issues with it. I'm wondering if it was a little girly of me to turn it to No Bosses for mine...
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I took my SS/Elec brute up against 8 even-con boss clones. They hit pretty hard! I was KO'd a couple of times, but on my third try I hit Demonic Aura and survived long enough to take out a couple. I was expecting to get thoroughly chewed on as soon as the aura dropped, but... it turns out that /Elec clones do not get /Elec's end drain resist. They'd been standing in my lightning field and attacking, and they were drained dry.
After that, the rest of the fight was pretty easy.
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I tried this very briefly on my Dark/Fire Brute. To say it was brief would be an understatement! I think my clones got access to Gloom so my toHit was through the floor before I even got into Melee range!
Slightly related - but hero side I tried the story arc with my Fire/Fire tank. To say two Fire/Fire tanks fighting was an uphill struggle would be an understatement. I also tried it on my Warshade and although she didn't get her forms she did get Inky Aspect so was stunned within a few seconds!
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I'm not sure how this would have worked, seeing as how running the arc in Ouro exemplars you to 29. You should only have access to two additional powers (@ 30 and 32) with the SSK rules.|
Originally Posted by Beef_Cake
Here is a tip for you Masterminds out there.
If you have a Patron Paower such as Mu Mastery like I have. Here is what I did to make the fight easy. I popped Demonic, (if you don't have Demonic, pop a few purples) then gathered all the Clones and their Pets at a corner, I used my Electric Fences and immobilized more than half of them. After that I ran to another corner and the remaining Pets and Clones ran to me even though their pets were immobilized, this allowed me to take only half of them at once, and it was pretty easy doing it that way. I found immobilizing the Mastermind Clone's Pets and pull only the Mastermind Clones to a different part of the map, left them out of bodyguard mode and allowed me to kill them quite easily Hope this helps! |
On another note, this was amusing on my SS/Stone Brute
8 copies of Mud Pots stacked on me had me immobilized through Rooted. I did somewhat cheat to finish, though, since I had the diff set on -1 >.>I am curious what 8 copies of my AR/TA Corrupter would be like
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My badgehunter and main is a Necromancer/Dark Miasma/fly
that would be...
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8x1 Fearsome Stare (stacked)
8x1 Shadow Fall (stacked)
Now if she also get Howling Twilight... how do I keep them down? And what about Soul Extraction? (> 8x1 Spirits)
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No bosses on my WM/Shield, bosses for Dark/Dark Brute, +0 on both. Really don't want to try it on any difficulty above +0.
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Wasn't to bad with my Plant/Fire Dom. Seeds of confusion and then carrion creepers = eight dead clones.
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Makes me wonder if there is a damage cap for NPCs. If not... ouch!
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