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Upon the advice of Father Xmas, I ran the CoH Helper program and the HiJackThis programs in hopes that someone can tell me what I need to update/change on my system to improve my graphics so I can play the game in the recommended graphics mode so I can experience all the great graphics the game has to offer instead of having to settle for minimum just to be able to play without major lag issues.

Following is the CoH Helper file:

---System information gathered by CoH Helper version 0.1.1.8---
DxDiag gathered at April 2, 2010 14:09 (-04:00)
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.090805-0102)
System Manufacturer: ACER
System Model: Aspire M1640
BIOS: BIOS Date: 01/29/08 14:43:24 Ver: 08.00.15
Central Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2160 @ 1.80GHz (2 CPUs), ~1.8GHz
Memory: 1790MB
.Net Memory Report: 985MB out of 1790MB available
Page File: 2597MB (1190MB currently in use)
C Drive: (ST325031 0AS SCSI Disk Device) 54068MB out of 114371MB (47%) free
D Drive: (ST325031 0AS SCSI Disk Device) 113723MB out of 114107MB (99%) free
E Drive: (HL-DT-ST DVDRAM_GH15N SCSI CdRom Device) zero-size drive
Windows directory location: C:\Windows
DirectX: DirectX 10
DirectX Diag version: 6.00.6001.18000 (32-bit version)
Display Notes: No problems found.
Sound Notes: No problems found.
Input Notes: No problems found.
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor's Max Resolution: (blank)
Video Device Name: NVIDIA GeForce 7050 / NVIDIA nForce 620i
Manufacturer / Chip: NVIDIA / GeForce 7050 / nForce 620i
Video Memory: 889 MB
Driver Version: 8.17.0011.9562
Driver Date: 11/20/2009 10:34:54 PM
Driver Language: English
Sound Device Description: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Driver File: RTKVHDA.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5497
Driver Date: 10/16/2007 10:39:18 PM

WMI Information
Motherboard Manufacturer: ACER
Motherboard Model: (empty)
Motherboard Product: MCP73
Motherboard Version: NVIDIA MCP73
BIOS Manufacturer: American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS Name: BIOS Date: 01/29/08 14:43:24 Ver: 08.00.15
BIOS Version: ACRSYS - 20080129
BIOS Release: 20080129000000.000000+000
Registry Information for Current User
Resolution: 1024x768
3D Resolution: 1024x768 (Not using renderscale)
Full Screen: Yes
Maximized: No
Screen Position: 0, 0
Refresh Rate: 75Hz
Vertical Sync Enabled: No
Physics Quality: None
Maximum Particles: 100
Max Particle Fill? 10.000
Physics Card Enabled: No
Anti-aliasing: None
Anisotropic Filtering: None
Texture LOD Bias: Crisp
Water Effects: None
Bloom: 1.000 (turned off)
Depth of Field Enabled: No
Desaturation Effects (Sepia) Enabled: No
Shader Detail: Lowest
World Texture Level: Low
Character Texture Level: Medium
World Detail Level (Vis_Scale): 0.500
Entity Detail Level: 0.500
Shadows Enabled: No
Gamma Correction: 0.677
Geometry Buffers (VBOs) Enabled: Yes
Suppression of Extra Player FX Enabled: No
Suppression of FX When Camera Close Enabled: Yes
Close Suppression Range: 3.000
Show Advertisements: Yes
Audio Mode: Performance
3D Audio: No
FX Sound Volume: 0.038
Music Sound Volume: 0.040
Show Advanced Graphics Options: No
Overall Graphics Quality: 0.000
Reverse Mouse Buttons: No
Save Login Username: Yes
Transfer Rate: 58355 bytes/second
Current Game Version: 1600.20100114.10T
Installation Directory: C:\Program Files\City of Heroes
Mod files in the Data directory
.\texture_library\GUI\Icons\Powers has 108 files
.\texture_library\MAPS\city has 1 file
.\texture_library\MAPS\Safeguard has 9 files
.\texture_library\MAPS\sewers has 44 files
.\texture_library\MAPS\static has 34 files
.\texture_library\V_MAPS\Outdoor_Missions has 9 files
.\texture_library\V_MAPS\Static has 16 files

Following is the HiJackThis file:

Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 2:18:39 PM, on 4/2/2010
Platform: Windows Vista SP1 (WinNT 6.00.1905)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v8.00 (8.00.6001.18882)
Boot mode: Normal
Running processes:
C:\Windows\system32\taskeng.exe
C:\Windows\system32\Dwm.exe
C:\Windows\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\SweetIM\Messenger\SweetIM.exe
C:\Windows\System32\mobsync.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\ArcSoft\Connection Service\Bin\ACDaemon.exe
C:\Program Files\Motorola\SMSERIAL\sm56hlpr.exe
C:\Program Files\AVG\AVG9\avgtray.exe
C:\Program Files\HP\HP Software Update\hpwuSchd2.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\wmpnscfg.exe
C:\Program Files\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqtra08.exe
C:\Program Files\Kodak\Kodak EasyShare software\bin\EasyShare.exe
C:\Program Files\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqSTE08.exe
C:\Program Files\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqbam08.exe
C:\Program Files\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqgpc01.exe
C:\Windows\system32\wuauclt.exe
C:\Program Files\Skype\Phone\Skype.exe
C:\Program Files\Skype\Plugin Manager\skypePM.exe
C:\Program Files\City of Heroes\CohUpdater.exe
C:\Program Files\HP\Digital Imaging\smart web printing\hpswp_clipbook.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\Skype\Toolbars\Shared\SkypeNames2.exe
C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\HijackThis\HijackThis.exe
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I hope someone can help. Thanks!


 

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1: You may want to look at bumping your RAM to 4GB. What you have is roughly enough for the OS to run okay, but you're start having resource contention issues once you start up the game.

Link to Crucial.com for your specific machine


2: It looks like you're running onboard video at the moment. That's NOT gonna cut it (it's also going to steal system memory).

As much as I'd like to boost for nVidia, their current solutions for gaming are either:

  • Unvavailable
  • Fare poorly against ATI/AMD (DAAMIT?) in "bang for buck" right now.
Here's the minimum for an ATI Card if you want to enjoy Ultra Mode:

Radeon 5770: $160 (Actual price, no shady rebates)

A step up:

Radeon 5830: $250

Another step up:

Radon 5850: $300

Beyond that you're into the really rarefied fields of top-end video cards and talking $400+

3: Also, note that all of the above cards require at least 1 (I believe both the 5830 and 5850 require 2) 6-pin PCI-E power connectors from your power supply unit.

If you still have the default Acer Power Supply unit in, it's a 250W unit and probably will NOT support any of the cards above. In which case you're likely talking about upgrading your PSU too.

Here's about the lowest cost unit I'd actually trust.

Here's one that's a couple bucks more that I've actually used in systems before.

4: As for the rest, the CPU is a little bit lower-end nowadays, but still perfectly fine for the game. If you WANT to upgrade it, you SHOULD be able to.

Your chip is a Pentium E2160. That's a Socket 775 chip. Your board is compatible with Core2 Duo Chips (which are still available).

Now you'll probably want to e-mail Acer Support.
Here's the link to Acer's Support Page for your computer.
Ask them how high-end of a chip you can put into the system.

Here's a list of currently available Socket 775 Core2Duo chips on Newegg.
All of which are 2x as fast (clockspeed wise) as your current chip.
Starting at $116 and going up.

Note: You'll probably also want to download the latest BIOS update and drivers from Acer as well.

Basically, if you're looking to upgrade ALL of the above (and can), you're looking at probably $470 (with the Radeon 5770), $570 (with the Radeon 5830), or $520 (with the Radeon 5850).


On the flip side, you COULD go with a new system for a bit more.

CyberPowerPC

This system with bumped memory 4GB), PSU, and a Radeon 5770 goes for about $660 sans Operating System.



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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
3: Also, note that all of the above cards require at least 1 (I believe both the 5830 and 5850 require 2) 6-pin PCI-E power connectors from your power supply unit.

If you still have the default Acer Power Supply unit in, it's a 250W unit and probably will NOT support any of the cards above. In which case you're likely talking about upgrading your PSU too.

Here's about the lowest cost unit I'd actually trust.

Here's one that's a couple bucks more that I've actually used in systems before.
I'd recommend these as well.

Corsair is a quality brand at affordable prices and the specific model of Antec power supply there gets rave reviews. The Antec is somewhat higher build quality than the 400 Watt Corsair, is slightly more efficient (less of the electricity you pay for is lost as heat), and very quiet. Either one would support a 5770 card. The 550 Watt Corsair would support a 5830 or 5850.


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Human_Being View Post
I'd recommend these as well.

Corsair is a quality brand at affordable prices and the specific model of Antec power supply there gets rave reviews. The Antec is somewhat higher build quality than the 400 Watt Corsair, is slightly more efficient (less of the electricity you pay for is lost as heat), and very quiet. Either one would support a 5770 card. The 550 Watt Corsair would support a 5830 or 5850.

Note: Link to comparison broken.

As to PSUs, I tend to overspec them as a matter of personal preference. This way I don't run into issues of the PSU running on the high-end of it's output rating and burning out with prolonged use and leave room for expansion (more hard drives, another optical, fansFANSFANS etc).



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Quote:
Originally Posted by Human_Being View Post

All other things being equal, I'd actually avoid the Antec for two reasons.

I've used Antec PSU's in the past. Have NOT been impressed by them (had several failures). I know the Earthwatt line has fair reviews, but my experience with several lines of Antec PSU (including Earthwatts) hasn't been good.

Second is the use of the 80mm fan (loud, compared to the others with the 120mm fans).

Again, this is all personal preference. YMMV.



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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
All other things being equal, I'd actually avoid the Antec for two reasons.

I've used Antec PSU's in the past. Have NOT been impressed by them (had several failures). I know the Earthwatt line has fair reviews, but my experience with several lines of Antec PSU (including Earthwatts) hasn't been good.

Second is the use of the 80mm fan (loud, compared to the others with the 120mm fans).

Again, this is all personal preference. YMMV.
Normally I'd be out in front of you arguing against anything with an 80mm fan, but the Antec Earthwatts 430 is actually the cheapest power supply that fits the power requirement among Silent PC Review's list of recommended power supplies. (At least ones that are still in production.)


 

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Thanks for the info. Sounds to me like just buying a new system would be more cost effective than upgrading parts. Although, this system is just a little over a year old and is actually a decent system for other applications I use. I hate the thought of just abandoning it for a new system, or just purchasing a new system to play a game. Just doesn't seem practical to me. Amazing out quickly computers become outdated, however, I don't believe the salesperson was listening when I told him what I needed for this system. It was prebuilt, so I didn't choose the components. I just told him what was required of the system and he said he made sure that CoH would run properly on it.

I didn't realize it was an onboard video card, but I haven't looked inside the computer since I've had it. As far as the RAM goes, I realized I would need to bump that up when I saw what I had.

I'm not totally inept about computers, but as far as how the components work together for the best performance were unknown to me. You guys have given me some much appreciated information to consider.


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapphire Jane View Post
Thanks for the info. Sounds to me like just buying a new system would be more cost effective than upgrading parts. Although, this system is just a little over a year old and is actually a decent system for other applications I use. I hate the thought of just abandoning it for a new system, or just purchasing a new system to play a game. Just doesn't seem practical to me. Amazing out quickly computers become outdated, however, I don't believe the salesperson was listening when I told him what I needed for this system. It was prebuilt, so I didn't choose the components. I just told him what was required of the system and he said he made sure that CoH would run properly on it.

I didn't realize it was an onboard video card, but I haven't looked inside the computer since I've had it. As far as the RAM goes, I realized I would need to bump that up when I saw what I had.

I'm not totally inept about computers, but as far as how the components work together for the best performance were unknown to me. You guys have given me some much appreciated information to consider.
It may or may not be more cost-effective to get a new machine rather than upgrading the existing one. Most, if not all, pre-built dealers use the graphics card as something to skimp on to save price; they presume that anyone who is interested in high-quality gaming will be willing to shell out $1200+ or so.

The people in this section could give you more advice on what your options are if you could give a budget you're comfortable with.


 

Posted

At the present time, I could only spend about $300 for upgrades. With that limited budget, I would have to decide which needs to be upgraded first. The others would have to wait until more funds are available. I don't want to scrimp on upgrades now just so I can get them all, would prefer to do what I can at each stage so I don't have to do it again later. But I would like to have them all done prior to GR going live.

So this is what I am thinking as to the order in which to replace components, and I may be wrong as I don't know how to build computers. Replace the Power Supply first so that I have the slots available for the video card and upping the RAM to 4G. Then the video cards and the CPU chip (which is greek to me but I'll figure it out).
Feel free to correct me and recommend the proper order in which to replace components... I won't be offended.

Next question... once I obtain the parts, I should have no problem replacing them should I? I have changed out parts in my computer before, ie: video cards, power supplies.. but I have not changed anything to do with the CPU. I just want to be sure I can do this myself without messing things up.

Also, I have contacted ACER regarding updating the BIOS. It appears there are 2 updates available for my system. I am awaiting a reply as to whether I need to update these.

You guys have no idea how much I appreciate this.


 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapphire Jane View Post
At the present time, I could only spend about $300 for upgrades. With that limited budget, I would have to decide which needs to be upgraded first. The others would have to wait until more funds are available. I don't want to scrimp on upgrades now just so I can get them all, would prefer to do what I can at each stage so I don't have to do it again later. But I would like to have them all done prior to GR going live.

So this is what I am thinking as to the order in which to replace components, and I may be wrong as I don't know how to build computers. Replace the Power Supply first so that I have the slots available for the video card and upping the RAM to 4G. Then the video cards and the CPU chip (which is greek to me but I'll figure it out).
Feel free to correct me and recommend the proper order in which to replace components... I won't be offended.
I'd actually do the RAM last. 2 GB is enough to run the system and use the hard drive as virtual memory. That will mean memory access will be as slow as your hard drive and load times will be longer than if you had 4 GB, but it's not going to have as much influence on what you see on your screen as a new graphics card. Regardless of how powerful the rest of the machine is, if you don't have the graphics processing power, visuals are going to suck. So the first things are a new graphics card and power supply to run it.

For Ultra Mode graphics card, I'd agree with Hyperstrike above: a 5770 from XFX for $160. As much as it pains me not to grab the irony of suggesting this to someone with your forum name, I can't justify the $10 difference inside your budget.

For power supply, I'd recommend the above-linked Corsair 400 Watt for $55. It's your cheapest option straight up, has free shipping, and fits the required spec with good build quality and solid reputation.

That's $215 out of your budget of $300. At that point I'd stop and see what you think of performance in the game. Is it good enough for what you want? If yes, then stop. If loading times and stutters from disk-access are bothering you, then upgrade the RAM. If game performance and static frames-per-second are still a bit low for you, look at a CPU upgrade: the above configuration is kind of Fiddler Crab-ed in that you have a fairly powerful graphics card with a very weak CPU. CoX doesn't take that much in the way of CPU, but you can end up with a situation where the CPU simply can't send frames to the graphics card as fast as the graphics card can draw them. I have suspicions that will be the case here, but you would be the only one to know it and your opinion is the only one that counts.

If you decide to upgrade the processor, I'd recommend either a E5300 2.6 GHz dual-core for $67 or a E6500 2.93 GHz dual-core for $80. The E6500 is both a little faster itself and uses a slightly higher system bus speed than the E5300. Your system's nForce 620i chipset should be able to support either one.

If you decide to upgrade the RAM, well then you need to first actually pop the side off of that case and look inside. I can't tell from the online specs if your system has just two RAM slots or four. If it's just two, then you will need to buy 4 GB of new RAM for about $100. If there are four slots and you can figure out what speed of DDR2 you are using/able to use, then you can just buy 2 GB for about $50 and put it in the two open slots.


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Next question... once I obtain the parts, I should have no problem replacing them should I? I have changed out parts in my computer before, ie: video cards, power supplies.. but I have not changed anything to do with the CPU. I just want to be sure I can do this myself without messing things up.
The only finicky part about replacing a CPU is getting the Thermal Interface Material (TIM; the grease that makes an even contact between the top of the CPU and the bottom of the heatsink) on evenly. However, if you're using the stock cooler from the CPU box, the TIM should be pre-applied to that for you. You just push the cooler on with four push pins. You can find lots and lots of youtube links of people showing how to do that before you try.


Edit: fixed typo.


 

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Okay, taking into account your budget, I agree with Human's suggestion of Vidcard and power supply.

After that, honestly I think you'd benefit (in-game) more from more memory, rather than a new CPU.

Your CPU isn't BLAZINGLY fast, but it's well beyond median spec for the game and should handle the offload of physics processing just fine.

As he warned, pop the case first and see how many modules are inside. Likely it's 2 1GB sticks (common tactic for reducing costs is to use cheaper modules and just more of them). This means you'll need to buy two sticks. If, by some chance, you lucked out and got a single stick at 2GB, then just buy a single 2GB stick.

I'd still give Acer a call and see what's the fastest chip you can put into the machine. Then save up for a couple months for the chip.

As you've noted though. Your other option is to simply sit on the funds for a bit, save up a bit more, and snag a new system.



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You guys are awesome, I can't thank you enough. I will keep you updated as I upgrade my system. Maybe I will see you in game sometime.
Now to find the time to check things out...sigh...it will cut into my play time but will be worth it to enjoy more of the game. lol


 

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I just wanted to update the guys that helped me in determining what I would need to upgrade my system.

Well, apparently my computer read the forums and decided that I would have to do more than upgrade...it forced me to have to purchase a new system. On Friday, 4/16 the system started acting weird then finally would not boot... no grunts or beeps, just the slight hum of the drive running. Oh, and the warranty ran out a few months ago.

So I talked to the tech today...my mobo is apparently history, all other system components checked out okay. The cost to repair approximately $500, with no guarantee that the same thing won't happen and that the new components will get along with the old ones, which will cost more tech time trying to iron out.

At the cost of $500 to repair, and still having to upgrade other components, I'm opting for a new system at around $699 plus the cost of a dedicated video card. The tech has been informed of what I need..he checked out CoH requirements while I was on the phone. The new system has a decent onboard vid card, but I told him I want a dedicated card... no more onboard cards for me to play CoH. One problem with this system is that it is a mini tower which may not leave room for additional upgrades.

The new system will have Windows 7, which the tech tells me is nothing more than a revamped Vista, fixing issues people complained about. Don't have all the specs yet, but it will have 4G RAM, 750G hard drive, can't remember the processor, the onboard card is an Nvidia GeForce 9200. This system is priced at $499. The $699 has more ram and more hard drive space, and I believe it is a quad cord.

At this writing, he is working up a couple of options for me. Once I have all the specs, I would like to post them here and get a recommendation from one of you guys. Since this tech is not actually experienced at playing CoH, I would prefer one of you guys to check it out and advise me.

Since I have other duties which I use my computer for, I have to get it replaced ASAP. There is more to life than CoH.... so they tell me. lol So funding for the new system has been taken care of and I'm not limited to the $300 budget I originally gave. I have the best boss in the world - he is allowing me an advance to purchase the system.

For now, I have to play on my old system and deal with the lag, but at least I can play some. That system is already maxed out as far as upgrades, but is fine for a backup. I think a MS Raid would be out of the question though.


 

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By all means post it up. I'll offer a few possible edits. If you're ok with spending the $699 over the $499, see if you can invest the overage into a better video card instead of extra storage and memory. And if you have concerns about the case, change that too. On the surface of it, the $499 system sounds quite adequate to the task and an even better vid card will get you solid performance in UM assuming you're keen on that. A 9800 should do UM but you can do better. I'd suggest looking at the Radeon 5xxx line instead of Nvidia. ATI right now gives better bang for the buck and supports DX11 and the new OGL standards. Only the latest GTX 4xx cards from Nvidia do that. Radeon 5770 cards are quite affordable and give good performance. Or you could step up to the 5830 or 5850. Let us know what you get quoted.


It is known that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination.

 

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Thanks for the input Back Blast. Yes, I am looking at getting one of the Radeon cards. The tech is looking into that so he can just add it.

I really only have one concern and that is about purchasing another Acer computer. The failed system is 1 year and 5 months old, and I don't want to have to get another one again in a year and half due to the motherboard issue. However, we have Acers in the office which are 4-5 years old and we haven't had any issues with them. If I can purchase a 1 year extended warranty on the new system, I will just to ease my mind about it.

The old system I'm using as a backup is a Dell Dimension 2400, which I guess I've had about 6-7 years with no issues, other than I can't upgrade it anymore. Well, I did have to replace the power supply due to a surge protector failure.

I will be stopping by the techs office shortly and see what he has to offer and will post it.

Oh, and I really miss that computer. Did a LGTF last night and fighting the hami and Honoree was like watching a slide show. LOL And this is Hami raid night on Virtue...so I guess I won't be going.


 

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Sigh...this is becoming a chore.

Following are the specs on the 2 Acer computers the tech suggested. Each of these has the mini-tower which has no room for a dedicated graphics card. Personally, I do not care for these compact towers.
This information came directly from Acer's website.

ACER X1301 - $499

Processor
  • AMD Athlon™ II X3 Processor 425 (3 x 512KB L2 cache, 2.70GHz)
    or AMD Athlon™ II X2 Processor 215 (2 x 512KB L2 cache, 2.70GHz)
Chipset
  • NVIDIA® GeForce® 9200
Memory
  • Up to 4GB (2GB installed in each of two memory slots) DDR2 SDRAM

    User upgradeable up to 4GB (one 2GB memory card in each slot)*
*This one has 4GB installed already
Storage
  • Up tp 750GB* SATA hard drive

    Variable-speed Super-Multi drive

    Multi-in-one card reader supporting optional CF+™ Microdrive, CompactFlash® I/II, Memory Stick®, Memory Stick PRO™, MultiMediaCard™, Reduced-Size MultiMediaCard (RS-MMC), Secure Digital, xD-Picture Card™
Video
  • Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce® 9200 graphics

    VGA and HDMI™ (High-Definition Multimedia Interface™) ports

    Low-profile PCI Express® 2.0 x16 graphics card support

    Acer® P205H 20" wide-screen LCD (select models only)
Audio
  • Embedded high-definition audio with 5.1-channel support

    Speakers integrated into LCD

    Headphones, microphone and five audio ports
Interface Ports
  • RJ-45 LAN
    VGA
    Headphones
    Microphone
    HDMI™ (High-Definition Multimedia Interface™)
    eSATA
    Four-pin FireWire® (IEEE 1394)
    Two PS/2®
    Five audio
    Nine USB 2.0 (five front, four back)
Card Slot
  • Multi-in-one card reader supporting optional CF+™ Microdrive, CompactFlash® I/II, Memory Stick®, Memory Stick PRO™, MultiMediaCard™, Reduced-Size MultiMediaCard (RS-MMC), Secure Digital, xD-Picture Card™
Communications
  • Gigabit LAN
Included Software
  • Acer® eRecovery Management
    Adobe® Acrobat® Reader
    CyberLink® PowerDVD™ (trial version)
    eSobi™*
    Google™ Toolbar
    McAfee® Internet Security Suite (60-day trial)
    Microsoft® Works 8.5 (full version)
    Microsoft® Office Home & Student 2007 (60-day trial)
    MyWinLocker®
    Nero® 9 Essentials*
    Oberon Gamezone

    *OEM, not full-featured, version.
User Interface
  • USB keyboard and optical mouse
Drive Bays & Expansion Slots
  • Drive bays: none

    Expansion slots
    One low-profile PCI Express® 2.0 x1
    One low-profile PCI Express® 2.0 x16
Dimensions
  • 3.9" (100mm) W x 13.9" (352mm) D x 10.4" (265mm) H
Power Supply
  • 220 watts
Compliance
  • PC2001
Limited Warranty*
  • One-year limited warranty*
__________________________________________________ _____________

ACER X3810 - $699
  • Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium
  • Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium
Processor
  • Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q8300 (4MB L2 cache, 2.50GHz, 1333MHz FSB)
    or Intel® Pentium® Processor E5200 (2MB L2 cache, 2.50GHz, 800MHz FSB)
Chipset
  • Intel® G43 Express
Memory
  • Up to 6GB (2/2/2/0) DDR3 SDRAM User upgradeable up to 8GB (one 2GB memory card in each slot)
Storage
  • Up to 1TB* SATA hard drive

    Variable-speed Super-Multi drive with Labelflash™
    or
    Variable-speed Super-Multi drive

    Multi-in-one card reader supporting optional CF+™ Microdrive, CompactFlash® I/II, Memory Stick®, Memory Stick PRO™, MultiMediaCard™, Reduced-Size MultiMediaCard (RS-MMC), Secure Digital, xD-Picture Card™

    *When referring to storage capacity, TB stands for a thousand gigabytes. Some utilities may indicate varying storage capacities. Total user-accessible capacity may vary depending on operating environments.
Video
  • Integrated Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X4500
    VGA and HDMI™ (High-Definition Multimedia Interface™) ports
    PCI Express® 2.0 x16 graphics card support (low-profile)
    20” wide-screen LCD (select models only)
    Analog/digital TV tuner with remote (select models only)
Audio
  • Embedded high-definition audio with 5.1-channel support
    Two integrated speakers
    Third-generation Dolby Home Theater® audio enhancement
    Headphones, microphone, five audio and optical SPDIF ports
Interface Ports
  • RJ-45 LAN
    VGA
    Headphones
    Microphone
    HDMI™ (High-Definition Multimedia Interface™)
    Four-pin FireWire® (IEEE 1394)
    Two PS/2®
    Five audio
    Optical SPDIF
    eSATA
    Nine USB 2.0 (five front, four back)
Card Slot
  • Multi-in-one card reader supporting optional CF+™ Microdrive, CompactFlash® I/II, Memory Stick®, Memory Stick PRO™, MultiMediaCard™, Reduced-Size MultiMediaCard (RS-MMC), Secure Digital, xD-Picture Card™
Communications
  • Gigabit LAN
    V.92 modem
Included Software
  • Acer® Arcade Deluxe
    Acer® eRecovery Management
    Adobe® Acrobat® Reader
    CyberLink® MediaShow*
    CyberLink® PowerDirector™*
    eSobi™*
    Google™ Desktop
    Google™ Toolbar
    McAfee® Internet Security Suite (60-day trial)
    Microsoft® Works 8.5 (full version)
    Microsoft® Office Home & Student 2007 (60-day trial)
    MyWinLocker®
    NTI Media Maker™* Windows Live™ Essentials

    *OEM, not full-featured, version.
User Interface
  • USB keyboard and optical mouse
Drive Bays
  • One internal 3.5"
    One 5.25"
Expansion Slots
  • One PCI Express® 2.0 x1
    One PCI Express® 2.0 x16
Dimensions
  • 3.9" (100mm) W x 13.9" (352mm) D x 10.4" (265mm) H
Power Supply
  • 220 watts
Compliance
  • PC2001
Limited Warranty*
  • One-year limited warranty
__________________________________________________ ______________________

Following is a gaming computer he tried to spec out for me. Note the cost is a bit higher... I think I could have done this myself. But I'm assuming if I purchase thru them, the cost of data transfer will be waived. However, when I looked at the site, what I found with these spec was priced at $699... but I may have looked at an incorrect build, but looked the same to me.

Cybertron Gaming PC - 4GB DDR2, 500GB, Nvidia 9500gt graphics card, hdmi, Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit

$859.99

Display Type: Not Included

Processor: Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200, 2.5 GHz, Socket 775

Memory Type: Dual Chanel DDR2
Memory Size: 2x2GB
Total Memory: 4GB
Memory Speed: DDr2 800 (PC2-6400)
Memory Slots (Total): 2
Memory Slots (Available): 0
Maximum memory supported: 4.0GB

Interface: 2.5" SATA II
Capacity: 500 GB
Speed: 7,200 RPM

Optical Drive Type: DVD/RW Dual Layer Lightscribe
Optical Drive Class: DVD/RW DL
Interface: N/A
Supplemental Media Type: Media Reader
Audio Description: Integrated Audio
Channels: 5.1

Graphics Description: PCI-Express x16 Graphics Card
GPU/VPU: nVidia GeForce 8500 GT
Video Memory: 1GB
Video Interface: DVI HDMI

Communications Description: Integrated LAN Support
LAN Chipset: Realtek RTL8111D
LAN Data Transfer Rate: 10/100/1000Mbps
LAN Description: Integrated
LAN Port Type: RJ-45
LAN Ports: 1

Power: 400 watt

Mouse Type: Optical
Buttons: 2
Scrolling capability: vertical
Connection type: N/A

Keyboard type: Premium
Connection type: N/A
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With a price tag of $860, not sure I want to go there. I may just not understand the difference in the builds, but the $699 looks like a better deal to me, if the onboard graphics card will handle Ultra Mode without lag issues.

Any and all help on deciding what to buy would be appreciated. Like anyone else, I want the best "bang for my buck" without spending more than I can actually afford. I was hoping to keep the cost at around $700 or less.


 

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My advice? Do your own shopping. If you like Acer, go hit their site and see what you can quote for yourself. Hit up that Cybertron site. Try other major makers you like. I've heard ibuypower.com is good. Newegg.com has barebones you can add to though theirs are usually DIY kits. But building your own system isn't that hard really. Basically you want a decent processor, about 4GB ram, and a Radeon 5770 or better at a price you can afford. It doesn't sound like this tech guy is doing you all that many favors. Once you have a system, it's pretty easy to take your old HDD and hook it into the new box. Assuming it's working ok, you can copy off your important stuff yourself then format it and use it for extra storage.


It is known that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination.

 

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Originally Posted by Back_Blast View Post
Newegg.com has barebones you can add to though theirs are usually DIY kits. But building your own system isn't that hard really.
Normally I'd agree with this and say "Go for it!" but since this sounds like the system is going to be a work system as well, I'd lean more towards pointing at prebuilt (with good components you can choose - ibuypower, etc.) just for the sake of having support available to swap things out and the like. Plus it seems to make IT and bean-countery types happier.

(Of course, I say that and I work from home on a system I built myself... but I have a backup PC I can throw into service if the main one goes down. Plus, hey... fixing this stuff is what I do for a living.)


 

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Well since it sounds like she's paying for it all herself, I'm not sure how much the IT and bean-counter folks have to say about it. But I'll leave that to her to work out. I merely mention it as an option.


It is known that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination.

 

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Build it myself....nah, don't want to. I'm fine with switching out cards, power supplies, drives and simple stuff like that. I'm just not comfortable about building it myself, plus I would prefer the peace of mind of getting a warranty. I'm sure the cost would be less to do it myself.

I've been to various sites building systems, but they are not falling within the price range I would like. Plus, most of them won't ship out for nearly 2 weeks unless I'm willing to pay a huge fee for rush delivery.

As Bill said, this is not just for gaming. I work on this computer using other applications and I'm sort of in a "I need it now" mode. I have things I need to work on but without access to my database, I can't do it. So I really need something soon.

And Blast is right, the tech isn't really doing me any favors. I'm guessing he's not a gamer and doesn't really want to spend the time to help. Don't get me wrong, he's a good, qualified tech, I just don't think he gets it. But they do have a gaming computer set up that I couldn't touch unless I hit the lottery. Quite frankly, I wasn't that impressed by it.

Anyway, I'm thinking about getting the Acer X3810, but I'm concerned about the integrated graphics card (Intel Graphics Media Accelerator x4500) - not sure how it will perform. Any help there would be appreciated. The specs say it has a PCI Express 2.0x16 graphics card support (low profile) - does that mean there is a slot for a dedicated card, but it has to be a low profile one? If so, does ATI make something that will fit there?

Thanks for all the feedback...I'm just a little exasperated right now.


 

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There are three problems with the two Acer models.

1) They are slim line cases meaning you can only use low profile video cards.

2) The PSUs are small at 220 watts. This will also limit your choice of video card. Also finding a larger wattage PSUs for those cases can be difficult.

3) Integrated graphics. I think the nVidia is somewhat better than Intel's but in either case we aren't talking about great performance in this game.


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Ah, low-profile. Didn't spot that earlier. Now that is a problem. The Intel graphics it comes with are well, pathetic. I'd have to doublecheck for sure but I'd say that the Intel chip is somewhere close to the minimum spec for the game. The 'good' news is at least you have a PCIE slot in that machine. The bad is I don't know if a low profile version of any upper end video cards even exists. In fact, I rather doubt it. And low-profile cards tend towards being more pricey than their normal bretheren if I'm not mistaken. So while that machine might be fine for work, it won't do your CoH experience any favors.

If this database is the sticking point for work, perhaps you can get it copied to the system you're using in the interim. Thus buying some time for a proper system to be delivered that will better meet your needs. Just a thought.


It is known that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination.

 

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Intel H55/H57 Core i3/i5 Configurator Case ( iBUYPOWER CX-5B59 Mid Tower Standard Case - Black/Silver )
iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction ( None )
iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion ( [6-Port] NZXT Internal USB Expansion System )
Case Lighting ( None )
Processor ( Intel® Core™ i3 530 Processor (2x 2.93GHz/4MB L3 Cache) )
Processor Cooling ( [Free Upgrade] Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ 120mm Radiator [SOCKET-1156] )
Memory ( 4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR3-1333 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand )
Video Card ( ATI Radeon HD 5830 - 1GB - Single Card )
Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by ATI or NVIDIA )
Motherboard ( MSI H55M-P31 -- Intel H55 Express Chipset Supported w/8-ch HD Audio, Dual Channel DDR3, Gb LAN, S-ATA, USB 2.0, 1 PCI-E 2.0 x16 MB )
Motherboard Add-on ( None )
Power Supply ( 700 Watt -- Power Supply - SLI Ready )
Primary Hard Drive ( 320 GB HARD DRIVE -- 16M Cache, 7200 RPM, 3.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
Data Hard Drive ( None )
Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black )
2nd Optical Drive ( None )
Flash Media Reader/Writer ( None )
Meter Display ( None )
Floppy Drive ( None )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
Netbook / Notebook Bundle ( None )
Operating System ( Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + [Free 60-Day !!!] Microsoft Office 2007(Word, Excel, Outlook, PowerPoint, Access ....) - 64-Bit )
Keyboard ( iBUYPOWER USB Keyboard - Black )
Mouse ( iBUYPOWER Internet Mouse - Black )
Monitor ( None )
2nd Monitor ( None )
Speaker System ( None )
External Hard Drives [USB 3.0/2.0/eSATA] ( None )
USB Flash Drive ( None )
Power Protection ( None )
Headset ( None )
MP3/MP4 Player ( None )
Video Camera ( None )
Warranty ( Standard Warranty Service - Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )
Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) - No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )
$958.00

$958.00

Yeah, I figured the Acer's were inadequate for what I want to do.

Okay, I went to a couple of sites - Cybertron and ibuypower. ibuypower seemed to have more flexibility than Cybertron. The cost of this system is actually more than I want to pay, but I can't see where to cut costs and still get what I need or would like to have. The shipping is $65, so the total price would be $1,023. That's a couple hundred more than I wanted to pay, but maybe I won't have to upgrade it for a while.

Maybe someone can look at it and tweak it a bit for me. But then I still have to transfer the data from my other HD, which tested okay by the tech. I'm not sure how to do that without the other system, and the tech will charge $149 to do so.

The system below did not have an operating system in the base price, so I had to add it. That kicked the price up a bit.

Again, thank you for your input and patience with me.

You can view the configuration below. Follow this link to edit or reconfigure this system:
http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Configurators.aspx?mid=542&t=w&c=23084,
Configurator: Intel H55/H57 Core i3/i5 Configurator
CaseiBUYPOWER CX-5B59 Mid Tower Standard Case-Black/SilveriBUYPOWER Labs - Noise ReductionNone-iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion[6-Port] NZXT Internal USB Expansion System-Case LightingNone-ProcessorIntel® Core™ i3 530 Processor (2x 2.93GHz/4MB L3 Cache)-Processor Cooling[Free Upgrade] Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ 120mm Radiator [SOCKET-1156]-Memory4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR3-1333 Memory Module-Corsair or Major BrandVideo CardATI Radeon HD 5830 - 1GB-Single CardVideo Card BrandMajor Brand Powered by ATI or NVIDIA-MotherboardMSI H55M-P31 -- Intel H55 Express Chipset Supported w/8-ch HD Audio, Dual Channel DDR3, Gb LAN, S-ATA, USB 2.0, 1 PCI-E 2.0 x16 MB-Motherboard Add-onNone-Power Supply700 Watt -- Power Supply-SLI ReadyPrimary Hard Drive320 GB HARD DRIVE -- 16M Cache, 7200 RPM, 3.0Gb/s-Single DriveData Hard DriveNone-Optical Drive24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive-Black2nd Optical DriveNone-Flash Media Reader/WriterNone-Meter DisplayNone-Floppy DriveNone-Sound Card3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard-Network CardOnboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)-Netbook / Notebook BundleNone-Operating SystemMicrosoft Windows 7 Home Premium + [Free 60-Day !!!] Microsoft Office 2007(Word, Excel, Outlook, PowerPoint, Access ....)-64-BitKeyboardiBUYPOWER USB Keyboard-BlackMouseiBUYPOWER Internet Mouse-BlackMonitorNone-2nd MonitorNone-Speaker SystemNone-External Hard Drives [USB 3.0/2.0/eSATA]None-USB Flash DriveNone-Power ProtectionNone-HeadsetNone-MP3/MP4 PlayerNone-Video CameraNone-WarrantyStandard Warranty Service-Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical SupportRush ServiceRush Service Fee (not shipping fee)-No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business DaysSubtotal*$958.00 (plus tax & shipping)


 

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Originally Posted by Sapphire Jane View Post

Intel H55/H57 Core i3/i5 Configurator


  • Case ( iBUYPOWER CX-5B59 Mid Tower Standard Case - Black/Silver )
  • iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion ( [6-Port] NZXT Internal USB Expansion System )
  • Processor ( Intel® Core™ i3 530 Processor (2x 2.93GHz/4MB L3 Cache) )
  • Processor Cooling ( [Free Upgrade] Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ 120mm Radiator [SOCKET-1156] )
  • Memory ( 4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR3-1333 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand )
  • Video Card ( ATI Radeon HD 5830 - 1GB - Single Card )
  • Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by ATI or NVIDIA )
  • Motherboard ( MSI H55M-P31 -- Intel H55 Express Chipset Supported w/8-ch HD Audio, Dual Channel DDR3, Gb LAN, S-ATA, USB 2.0, 1 PCI-E 2.0 x16 MB )
  • Power Supply ( 700 Watt -- Power Supply - SLI Ready )
  • Primary Hard Drive ( 320 GB HARD DRIVE -- 16M Cache, 7200 RPM, 3.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
  • Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black )
  • Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
  • Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
  • Operating System ( Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + [Free 60-Day !!!] Microsoft Office 2007(Word, Excel, Outlook, PowerPoint, Access ....) - 64-Bit )
  • Keyboard ( iBUYPOWER USB Keyboard - Black )
  • Mouse ( iBUYPOWER Internet Mouse - Black )
  • Warranty ( Standard Warranty Service - Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )
  • Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) - No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )

$958.00
Formated for readability. Also took out all the None categories.


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