'Stay', 'Follow' commands for Allies in MA
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FredrikSvanberg,
Posted on: 2009-09-28 10:52 in Suggestions and Ideas
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Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan
...it would be nice if we could right click on them and tell them to stay put...
/unsigned, it feels exploitable or too dangerous as it may lead to the ally engaging in battles with patrols or ambushes that would either get it killed or lead unwanted adds to your location.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan
...and then pick them up from a distance by telling them to follow us again.
I'd rather see a "talk-to" option for our allies that lets us tell them to stay put or follow us, just my opinion.
I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!
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How would you suggest distance from the ally be managed? As it stands, i was thiunking of just more options from the right click menu we've got already, with 'info' and 'follow'.|
Originally Posted by LordXenite
/signed /unsigned, it feels exploitable or too dangerous as it may lead to the ally engaging in battles with patrols or ambushes that would either get it killed or lead unwanted adds to your location. I'd rather see a "talk-to" option for our allies that lets us tell them to stay put or follow us, just my opinion. |
Eco.
MArcs:
The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
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Yes, it would be convenient to have allies to be as well behaved as my thugs. Often I tried to tell them not to bother or go away. But do they listen? Not a chance. Because they are who they are and not one of your trusted henchman (who can be obnoxiously stupid sometimes as well).
In short, they are allies, not pets. Inconvenient as it is, it feels right that we cannot tell them what to do.
They could use the same code as for the scientists in Warburg. You can click on them and tell them to stay or follow, and that's the only options you've got. Something like this might make a few missions actually pleasant to play instead of frustrating (the hostage mission in Serpent Drummer's arc, that suicidal woman I can't remember the name of in the Midnighter introduction arc, etc).
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I'm not suggesting it'd be managed at all. I'm suggesting we could tell an ally to follow us, stay put, and on second thought, perhaps dismiss the ally altogether. If I told my ally to stay somewhere, I think it is very reasonable to have to go and find the ally if I require his/her presence again.
Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan
How would you suggest distance from the ally be managed?
I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!
Save Ms. Liberty (#5349) � Augmenting Peacebringers � The Umbra Illuminati
Save Ms. Liberty (#5349) � Augmenting Peacebringers � The Umbra Illuminati
Thing is, you Allies behavior is dictated by the mission creator and I'm not sure about overriding their settings.
It would be nice if we had some other options in Ally behavior beside, 'Bump on a Log', 'Stop Touching Me!', and 'Kamikaze'. Maybe 'Whites of Their Eyes' would be helpful.
Granted it would also be nice if we had these kind of controls over our own pets.
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Sorry, i wasn't very clear. I meant how would the actual mechanics of it work?if the 'stay' command is accessed by right clicking on an ally, then it would act like the current 'info' mechanism. And that works as long as the ally is close enpigh to remain targeted. LoS isn't even needed. So the 'start following me again' command could also be chosen without the ally being near. Perhaps they coild use a variant of the ols SK code to grey put the 'follow me' command until the ally was close enough? |
Originally Posted by LordXenite
I'm not suggesting it'd be managed at all. I'm suggesting we could tell an ally to follow us, stay put, and on second thought, perhaps dismiss the ally altogether. If I told my ally to stay somewhere, I think it is very reasonable to have to go and find the ally if I require his/her presence again.
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Eco
MArcs:
The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
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Which is why I agree only to the Follow-me/Stay-put concept with the restriction that you have to be in melee-range of the ally to actually tell them what to do. I suppose that if the Devs ever allow us this, to counter it, they could include a new setting in the AE ally definition screen which authors could use to disable the ally-commands thus making the ally stubborn and resistant to commands
Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja
Thing is, you Allies behavior is dictated by the mission creator and I'm not sure about overriding their settings.
Too helpful perhaps... so much so it may be exploitable?Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja
It would be nice if we had some other options in Ally behavior beside, 'Bump on a Log', 'Stop Touching Me!', and 'Kamikaze'. Maybe 'Whites of Their Eyes' would be helpful.
Granted it would also be nice if we had these kind of controls over our own pets.
Exactly like that. Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan
Perhaps they could use a variant of the old SK code to gray out the 'follow me' command until the ally was close enough?
I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!
Save Ms. Liberty (#5349) � Augmenting Peacebringers � The Umbra Illuminati
Save Ms. Liberty (#5349) � Augmenting Peacebringers � The Umbra Illuminati
Sometimes I want my allies to stay in one place whilst I scout out ahead for a bit. I can of course take them way back down a few floors or what have you and then turn on SS and runa way from them until they get 'lost', but it would be nice if we could right click on them and tell them to stay put, and then pick them up from a distance by telling them to follow us again.
Eco.
MArcs:
The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)