You can build your attack chain with Cremate, Incinerate and either Fire Sword or Scorch (depending on your preference) if you have enough recharge in your toon.
Incinerate-Cremate-Fire Sword = great attack chain
I'll have to hop on test and try the Inc>Crem>FS chain. Not sure I have enough recharge to pull it off, but with Fire Ball mixed in it might work out.
Blaze Mastery rocks even more than I expected it too. Just wish they'd rearranged the order a bit so I don't have to take Char/RoF.
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Althought Greater Fire Sword is a great attack, if it were my build, I'd probably be going for the Incinerate -> Scorch -> Cremate -> Scorch chain. It's good DPS, fairly easy to achieve and is light on endurance. That would let me focus more attention on other aspects of the build.
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I agree here. I run 2 Fire scrappers that both use that chain. I'm excited to test the one I am building now with that chain, against a Pylon. I've really been able to keep a focus on offense while soft capping defense with this build. He is currently 45 though so it will still be a couple weeks. I'm expecting to see some pretty high DPS.
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Originally Posted by Werner
Althought Greater Fire Sword is a great attack, if it were my build, I'd probably be going for the Incinerate -> Scorch -> Cremate -> Scorch chain. It's good DPS, fairly easy to achieve and is light on endurance. That would let me focus more attention on other aspects of the build.
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I'll be dropping GFS on my Fire/Fire when I16 goes live so I can get Fire ball 
For me it is easy to do because I will still have a good DPS attack chain with Incinerate/Scorch/Cremate/Scorch and I will have Great AoE with Fire Sword Circle and Fire ball.
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RoF and Fire Blast are both also good ST attacks.
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Originally Posted by Sfort
I'll have to hop on test and try the Inc>Crem>FS chain. Not sure I have enough recharge to pull it off, but with Fire Ball mixed in it might work out.
Blaze Mastery rocks even more than I expected it too. Just wish they'd rearranged the order a bit so I don't have to take Char/RoF. |
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Yeah, but I don't have enough slots for RoF or Char in addition to Fire Blast and Fire Ball.|
Originally Posted by Silverado
RoF and Fire Blast are both also good ST attacks.
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After adding a bit of recharge I can pull off the FS>Inc>FS>Crem chain so long as Hasten is up. I just add in Fire Blast for the brief Hasten downtime and it's perfectly workable.
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I can't do it... It can be done and still get high DPS with other attacks but I just can't drop GFS. Especially with i16 comming. I can't do it simply for fact of being flashy! i16 will allow me the ability to make all sword attacks with the GFS. I've ran it on test. It looks too good. And the colors... I'm not going to even start. As I said. Its not insane. But why do it?
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Because Cremate and Incinerate both have better DPA than GFS. FS and Scorch have better DPE than GFS too.
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Originally Posted by Rieze
Its not insane. But why do it?
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What is the best chain to run that doesn't have GFS that provides Inc>GFS>Cremate like numbers?
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Well the best Chain without GFS is Inc>Cremate>FS I don't have the numbers but that is going to be the best Chain without GFS.
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What is the animation time of Scrapper Fire Blast?
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Originally Posted by Silverado
RoF and Fire Blast are both also good ST attacks.
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What the hell? Let's buff defenders.
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Originally Posted by StratoNexus
What is the animation time of Scrapper Fire Blast?
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Casttime=1.2
ACT=1.452
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Mmmm. So good. So good.|
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Thank you for the info.
Why Blasters? Empathy Sucks.
So, you want to be Mental?
What the hell? Let's buff defenders.
Tactics are for those who do not have a big enough hammer. Wisdom is knowing how big your hammer is.
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You compalin about GFS hitting a dead enemy, but you're taking incinerate? How eccentric.
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Originally Posted by Sfort
On teams things are generally dead before it finishes
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GFS provides that heavy burst when I need it.
You could pretty much pick any 3 of the attacks and should be ok.
I currently run Inc->FS->GFS->FS on my FM/SD.
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Isn't Inc>GFS>Cre>FS better dps and cheaper to run?
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Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze
GFS provides that heavy burst when I need it.
You could pretty much pick any 3 of the attacks and should be ok. I currently run Inc->FS->GFS->FS on my FM/SD. |
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Not sure which is what...|
Originally Posted by Santorican
Isn't Inc>GFS>Cre>FS better dps and cheaper to run?
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But it was choice of either Cremate or GFS.
Didn't take me long to decide as to which to keep.
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Originally Posted by Dersk
You compalin about GFS hitting a dead enemy, but you're taking incinerate? How eccentric.
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That said. I don't use Incinerate on anything less than a Boss in most circumstances. Even with the recharge on SC, FSC and Fire Ball are up often enough that it takes care of the rest of the mob while I kill the boss.
It seems that the consensus (such that it is) is that I should take whatever I want that I feel works. I'm not very good at the numbers, mostly because I don't have the formulas, but the chain of Inc>FS>Crem>FS feels like it's the best option so far from what I've tried on test. How do I calculate how much recharge it takes to make that fluid?
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I've been working on my build for my Fire/Shield trying to tweak little things here and there and I've realized that I kind of hate Greater Fire Sword's animation time. On teams things are generally dead before it finishes, and solo I can hit 2 other attacks just as fast or faster. That said, is it insane to drop GFS?
After much reading it seems the drop off between GFS>Inc>Cremate>FS and Scorch>Inc>Cremate>Scorch isn't all that great. ~5%?
By dropping GFS I'd also drop Conserve Power and Grant Cover to make room for Blaze Mastery and rearrange a few slots as needed.
Here's my build. Any other advice is always welcome if something sticks out.Thanks in advance.
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Sfort.: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Scorch Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(21), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(23), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Mako-Dam%(40)
Level 1: Deflection S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(A), S'dpty-Def/Rchg(3), S'dpty-EndRdx/Rchg(3), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(5), S'dpty-Def(5), LkGmblr-Rchg+(7)
Level 2: Cremate T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(7), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(19), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), T'Death-Dam%(46)
Level 4: True Grit Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Numna-Heal/Rchg(11), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(11), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(17), Numna-Heal(40), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(45)
Level 6: Hasten RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(9), RechRdx-I(9)
Level 8: Hurdle Jump-I(A)
Level 10: Active Defense HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(50)
Level 12: Battle Agility S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(A), S'dpty-Def/Rchg(13), S'dpty-EndRdx(13), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(15), S'dpty-Def(15), LkGmblr-Rchg+(17)
Level 14: Super Speed Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(37), Zephyr-ResKB(37)
Level 16: Against All Odds EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(37)
Level 18: Fire Sword Circle Oblit-Acc/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(34), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Oblit-%Dam(36), Oblit-Dmg(50)
Level 20: Health RgnTis-Regen+(A)
Level 22: Stamina P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(A), P'Shift-EndMod(33), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(33), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(33), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(34), P'Shift-End%(34)
Level 24: Build Up GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(25), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(27), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(39), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(39), GSFC-Build%(39)
Level 26: Incinerate T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(27), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(31), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), T'Death-Dam%(45)
Level 28: Combat Jumping Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(29), Zephyr-ResKB(29)
Level 30: Phalanx Fighting LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 32: Greater Fire Sword C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(43), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(43), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46)
Level 35: Shield Charge Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(40), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(42), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Oblit-%Dam(42), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 38: Kick Empty(A)
Level 41: Conserve Power RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(46), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 44: Tough S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 47: Weave HO:Cyto(A), HO:Enzym(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(48), LkGmblr-Rchg+(50)
Level 49: Grant Cover LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
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