Movement Speed = Run Speed?
By
eryq2,
Posted on: 2009-08-04 07:43 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
Movement Speed bonuses help all movement (Run Speed, Fly Speed, Jump Speed).
Global name: @k26dp
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+Movement applies to +RunSpeed, +JumpSpeed, +JumpHeight and +FlySpeed.|
Originally Posted by eryq2
If i'm trying to boost my run speed, will movement speed bonuses help, or will it only have to be run speed bonuses? Thanks for any info.
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+Movement is separate from each of the independent bonuses, so you can stack five 4% +Movement with five +4% JumpSpeed/Height, or five 5% +Movement with five 5% +RunSpeed, etc.
Speaking about which, I have two 7.5% +movement from Gift of the Ancient and I can't really tell the difference.. T_T
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
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How fast were you running before you slotted them? All movement bonuses are added to the base, so if you already had a high movement speed, an extra 15% probably won't be distinguishable. Some players can spot the difference (i can immediately tell when my Jump Speed has dropped by even the slightest amount), but most tend to ignore or miss small differences.|
Originally Posted by Jibikao
Speaking about which, I have two 7.5% +movement from Gift of the Ancient and I can't really tell the difference.. T_T
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Potentially more relevant, how tall is your character? How fast you feel like you're moving is very much a matter of perspective in this game. Short characters feel like they're moving at a greater clip than larger characters, even when the actual speed of movement is exactly the same for both. My Fire/TA is a very small woman, under 5', and at ~24 mph RunSpeed, she feels disturbingly fast, but on the other hand, my main character, my TA/Dark, stands a bit over 5'6", and running at ~24 mph, she just doesn't feel nearly as fast as the Fire/TA.
That is, incidentally, why Fly also feels like it's so slow. Perspective. When you're 300' above the ground, your visual reference points are passing below you very slowly, so you feel like you're moving slowly even if you're at the Fly cap. If you fly down close to the ground, it feels like you're moving much more quickly.
Which is, also incidentally, a big part of why I adore Hurdle + CJ so very much. I'm typically bouncing along at almost exactly the same speed I would be if I'd taken Fly, but it feels like it's faster because I have the perspective of buildings, NPCs, trees and various other things giving me visual reference points which are closer, and therefore delivering that feeling of moving along very quickly.
"Movement speed" and "slow movement" are shorthand for a group of related effects: run speed, maximum run speed, jump speed, jump height, and fly speed. Not all those effects are guaranteed to be present, though. Check the real numbers to make sure any individual effect is actually taking place.
If I recall correctly, the Gift of the Ancients "Increased Run Speed" bonus is run speed only. And, as mentioned above, it's 7.5% of your base movement, which is 14.32 mph, so it might be more accurately described as a 1.07 mph bonus rather than a percentage.
To verify the bonuses are working, die, get rezzed, and start running without any travel powers or sprint on. You'll see the 1.07 mph bonuses kick in sometime over the first ten seconds, so you'll notice small but perceptible boosts.
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You know what, all my characters are at the maximum height! I think you've got a point here. LOL |
Originally Posted by Luminara
How fast were you running before you slotted them? All movement bonuses are added to the base, so if you already had a high movement speed, an extra 15% probably won't be distinguishable. Some players can spot the difference (i can immediately tell when my Jump Speed has dropped by even the slightest amount), but most tend to ignore or miss small differences.
Potentially more relevant, how tall is your character? How fast you feel like you're moving is very much a matter of perspective in this game. Short characters feel like they're moving at a greater clip than larger characters, even when the actual speed of movement is exactly the same for both. My Fire/TA is a very small woman, under 5', and at ~24 mph RunSpeed, she feels disturbingly fast, but on the other hand, my main character, my TA/Dark, stands a bit over 5'6", and running at ~24 mph, she just doesn't feel nearly as fast as the Fire/TA. That is, incidentally, why Fly also feels like it's so slow. Perspective. When you're 300' above the ground, your visual reference points are passing below you very slowly, so you feel like you're moving slowly even if you're at the Fly cap. If you fly down close to the ground, it feels like you're moving much more quickly. Which is, also incidentally, a big part of why I adore Hurdle + CJ so very much. I'm typically bouncing along at almost exactly the same speed I would be if I'd taken Fly, but it feels like it's faster because I have the perspective of buildings, NPCs, trees and various other things giving me visual reference points which are closer, and therefore delivering that feeling of moving along very quickly. |
I love max. height because I can see my design better. I guess that's why I don't notice the 7.5% that much. I don't take travel powers. I just use temp fly and sprint.
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
If i'm trying to boost my run speed, will movement speed bonuses help, or will it only have to be run speed bonuses? Thanks for any info.