Do you mean secondary power set? Cuz that's what it seems like you mean in context...
Depending on whether you want to IO this guy out ever, you've got a lot of options. Any/Any works quite well for Scrappers, so Kat/Any is going to be quite good.
If you're looking to optimize for SOs, */SR works fine because it's easy softcapping. */WP or */regen because you're stacking awesome +def from divine avalanche with huge damage recovery. */Fire is good because you can shore up the lower defenses in it with Divine Avalanche and get a remarkably survivable character.
If you're looking to optimize for IOs, */wp and */regen work wonderfully for the same reasons as above. Werner has been experimenting with some crazy dangerous and survivable kat/dark stuff that promises to be a powerhouse if the calculations are even remotely close. In general, I'd keep away from kat/sr if you're aiming for IO optimization simply because one of the biggest benefits of having Kat is Divine Avalanche, which */sr doesn't need at all, but, even so, that would allow you to focus on using Kat for dps rather than having to sacrifice DPS for survivability.
Ok well i am planning on using IOs so let me ask wat would u personally choose in this situation?
I'd go Kat/WP most likely. Kat/Dark could do some really dangerous things if you're willing to spend a lot.
Alright ty for the help.
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Originally Posted by Umbral_NA
In general, I'd keep away from kat/sr if you're aiming for IO optimization simply because one of the biggest benefits of having Kat is Divine Avalanche, which */sr doesn't need at all, but, even so, that would allow you to focus on using Kat for dps rather than having to sacrifice DPS for survivability.
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Katana/Willpower seems to be the consensus recommendation for a do anything build. Easy to build, easy to play, easy to level, and gives up nothing on top end power. Reasonable single target and passable AoE damage. The other combinations are great too, but Katana/Willpower might be considered the simplest path to greatness.
I really need to finish leveling that Katana/Dark. I was spending all my effort on my Broad Sword/Shield Defense, both leveling and planning out the build. And now that I have the level 50, the planned build and the influence, I'm just not so much into it. The build I designed was to be as tanky as possible in as many situations as possible, including to-hit buffs, pets, defense debuffs, and so on. DPS suffered, and would often be lower than my two mains while solo. So now I'm looking at that build and thinking, Why not just play a DPS tank?
Katana/Regen is my personal favorite, but it can require a lot of focus and experience. For example, I've done no temp no inspiration storm palace laps with Katana/Regen and with Dark Melee/Super Reflexes. The DM/SR can pretty much sleep walk through it. The Katana/Regen was nail biting, heart pounding focus for over an hour, and once I relaxed after completing the lap, I was very quickly defeated. Now, I love playing that way, but not all the time. My poor blood pressure can't take it.
Frankly, there's nothing wrong with Katana/Invuln. You should be able to make an incredible powerhouse out of it if you have the budget.
Really, there's nothing bad to pair Katana with. It goes well with everything. It's more a matter of how you want your secondary to play.
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My current pet project is Kat/Inv.
The plan is to have him hit the cap (or near enough) for smash/lethal Res & Def.
Throw in Taunt, a few nice AoEs and he will forever more be my choice on all ITFs.
And never shall a Tank be needed again.
(There are a bunch of reasons, but the crazy ITF ownage, with no Tanks is the top one)
So yeah I vote /Inv (though the crazy DPS offered by SR is also good incentive)
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It's true! I play Katana/SR and I love the hell out of it. It takes a while for Super Reflexes to really shine, but once it does, you'll be kicking the **** out of pretty much everything.| And you can get some SERIOUS DPS out of Katana/Super Reflexes. |
Then again, as said, there's really nothing bad to put Katana with. It's just that awesome.
I recently got a katana/regen to fifty. I'll admit, i shamelessly Pled him in double xp weekend. He's my fourth fifty but he's also my first scrapper. I seem to be getting the hang of him so far but i was wondering how well this build pans out. I've heard like most scrapper combos that it can be a very solid set, and I love the endurance recovery (of course i did just main a PB for a while). Was wondering how it stacked up compared to some other combos though, like what its main strength is. Any tips guys?
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Katana offers Divine Avalanche, which is essentially lots of free Melee Defense, couple that with Regens, well, Regen, and it makes for a very survivable toon. You also shouldn't have end issues whatsoever (I'd still pick up the fitness pool, both health and Stamina stack nicely with Regen, and means that you'll never, ever have End issues, no matter how long the fight)|
Originally Posted by Mastermidget23
I recently got a katana/regen to fifty. I'll admit, i shamelessly Pled him in double xp weekend. He's my fourth fifty but he's also my first scrapper. I seem to be getting the hang of him so far but i was wondering how well this build pans out. I've heard like most scrapper combos that it can be a very solid set, and I love the endurance recovery (of course i did just main a PB for a while). Was wondering how it stacked up compared to some other combos though, like what its main strength is. Any tips guys?
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The one thing you will want to chase with IOs is extra recharge, more recharge = more heals, and enough recharge means you can chain GC-GD-GC-SD which is about the best DPS Kat will give you, (and very good DPS at that)
It's worth saying that Regen is a tricky powerset though, it's very definitely not fire and forget, its about pacing the heals, and timing the clicks right, and knowing when not to use them. I've got 3 lvl 50 Regens, and love them all to pieces, but there was a fair share of chain dying along the way while i got the hang of it. (but hey, that's why it has a self rez, dying doesn't slow you down at all )
Oh, and if you didn't pick up MoG, then do, it's awesome.
if that kat/inv is on the high levels already, I would just stick to that. Cap defense, cap hp, some good resists, and good dps?
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OK, not Dark Melee/Shield Defense serious, but pretty serious.
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was so close on leveling mine up for the double xp... I have an experimental build that could get to 330+ dps , if everything falls in place. but he has been sitting at 12 as I just can't seem to play any dark characters. I did however got my brute to 42... :-)
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I'm not sure there's a main strength of Katana/Regen, but it's a good combination. When built and played correctly, it's definitely one of the big boys (e.g., Val Blademaster vs. 4 AVs). But mess up the build or the play, and you'll face plant a lot when the going gets tough. |
Originally Posted by Mastermidget23
I recently got a katana/regen to fifty. I'll admit, i shamelessly Pled him in double xp weekend. He's my fourth fifty but he's also my first scrapper. I seem to be getting the hang of him so far but i was wondering how well this build pans out. I've heard like most scrapper combos that it can be a very solid set, and I love the endurance recovery (of course i did just main a PB for a while). Was wondering how it stacked up compared to some other combos though, like what its main strength is. Any tips guys?
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For me, I guess the main draw is HOW it plays. I LOVE the focus it requires. I LOVE that I "never" die as a result of running out of options, but only as a result of my own mistakes. I LOVE that I can go from green to dead in three seconds. It's exciting! It's not for everyone, but it's totally great for me...
... except when I'm feeling lazy, and then I bust out my Dark Melee/Super Reflexes, which can sleep walk through almost anything. It's not that it's better. It's just easier.
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Originally Posted by Santorican
Slowly but surely you will come to the dark side
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(* maybe... but I have all these toons I should finish first...)
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Forgive me if this seems nooby but wat is DPS?
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DM/SD is just... too powerful !! I finished a old DM/SD during the double xp week end, spent a 1 bil build on her planned from Mids a long time ago. I went straight to steamroll the RWZ, not paying attention if I took one or two packs at the same time, if they were 54 or anything else, if I aggroed some of the elite bosses at the same time, while probably playing very poorly as it was late and I didnt have any training on her : you can't even call it a challenge anymore, this builds makes everything like this so easy |
Originally Posted by Santorican
Slowly but surely you will come to the dark side
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I guess it could become one of my favorite toon ever, i need more testing and trying ridiculous things to see its limits... The damage output is so impressive, with a Soul Drain up most of the time I hit 54 Riktis like my Claws/SR hits 51 mobs... Well, I'm back to the RWZ for further "pwnage"... oops I meant for further testing
To answer to the OP, Kat/Inv can be a true monster really. You can easily make it soft cap to everything but Psi with 3-4 enemies in range and one application of Divine Avalanche. Build also for regen and the cap hp (perma dull pain) : against S/L enemies it will be truely invulnerable. I really love /invuln ! If they didnt give us Shields it would be no question my favorite secondary.
Otherwise Kat is so good it works with everything else : /WP, /Regen (alot of fun), /Dark (probably the best pairing to make /Dark shine alot), /Fire (same)... etc. Just choose the name or concept you like the most ? You can't go wrong. And when you're 50 or not far, come back here to discuss about a top IO build if you have the influence and this toon will make you happy for long !
PS : DPS = damage per second, your damage output simply.
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NEVER!!!!!!*
(* maybe... but I have all these toons I should finish first...) |
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Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze
was so close on leveling mine up for the double xp... I have an experimental build that could get to 330+ dps , if everything falls in place. but he has been sitting at 12 as I just can't seem to play any dark characters. I did however got my brute to 42... :-)
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Originally Posted by Werner
NEVER!!!!!!*
(* maybe... but I have all these toons I should finish first...) |
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Originally Posted by Ehina_NA
DM/SD is just... too powerful !! I finished a old DM/SD during the double xp week end, spent a 1 bil build on her planned from Mids a long time ago. I went straight to steamroll the RWZ, not paying attention if I took one or two packs at the same time, if they were 54 or anything else, if I aggroed some of the elite bosses at the same time, while probably playing very poorly as it was late and I didnt have any training on her : you can't even call it a challenge anymore, this builds makes everything like this so easy
I guess it could become one of my favorite toon ever, i need more testing and trying ridiculous things to see its limits... The damage output is so impressive, with a Soul Drain up most of the time I hit 54 Riktis like my Claws/SR hits 51 mobs... Well, I'm back to the RWZ for further "pwnage"... oops I meant for further testing |
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Ty
GC->GD->GC->SD
Hm... What's the recharge needed per attack for a seamless chain?
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Originally Posted by Demobot
GC->GD->GC->SD
Hm... What's the recharge needed per attack for a seamless chain? |
GD: 12 sec base recharge, 3.432 needed, 250% +rech needed
SD: 9 sec base recharge, 3.828 needed, 135% +rech needed
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Originally Posted by Umbral_NA
GC: 3 sec base recharge, 1.584 needed, 90% +rech needed
GD: 12 sec base recharge, 3.432 needed, 250% +rech needed SD: 9 sec base recharge, 3.828 needed, 135% +rech needed |
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I'm making a katana scrapper and i'm in need of a defense power. My other katana scrapper has invulnerability and it used to work back in the day but now he isn't that great defensivly and so i'm making a new one and would like to no a good defense power.