Claws/Regen


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I'm planning an alt based on a Werewolf character I played years ago. But was wondering, how gimped are Claws these days?


 

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Claws are excellent, they've now got the highest damage per second over an extended period of time. See the excellent guide in my sig for details!


 

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Claws are excellent, they've now got the highest damage per second over an extended period of time. See the excellent guide in my sig for details!

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depending on build and other conditions of course Im not sure claws could out single target DPS my BS/SR (0 downtime with the build btw)


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Against high-hp mobs such as AVs, Claws has a higher DPS than BS.


 

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Against high-hp mobs such as AVs, Claws has a higher DPS than BS.

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again this will be dependant upon various conditions such as claws BU (forget the name of it) hitting for the cascade effect and doesnt take into account specific builds or slotting. As I stated I have a huge damage output on my BS with 0 downtime, I find it hard to beleive that claws with out DPS my Broadsword on a single target, thats not a definative answer as I clearly cant know this for sure.


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It is called follow up and imo is that much different from build up we shouldnt compare. Follow up lasts 2 seconds longer than BU and will stack with any kind of recharge enhancement. Afaik it only gives +50% damage and also +acc (but boosts the accuracy of the next follow up ). It also does a tad more damage unslotted than the minor damage attack.

I have to admit I dont have claws scrapper myself but I have played alongside a good friend of mine for about year and a half.


 

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Against high-hp mobs such as AVs, Claws has a higher DPS than BS.

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again this will be dependant upon various conditions such as claws BU (forget the name of it) hitting for the cascade effect and doesnt take into account specific builds or slotting. As I stated I have a huge damage output on my BS with 0 downtime, I find it hard to beleive that claws with out DPS my Broadsword on a single target, thats not a definative answer as I clearly cant know this for sure.

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The following is assuming a slotting of 3xDamage and 1xRecharge in all attacks, assumes all attacks hit and Hasten is running.

Broadsword has a DPS of 5.25 BI/sec and Claws has a DPS of 5.69 BI/sec.

See this thread for more details.


 

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I'm planning an alt based on a Werewolf character I played years ago. But was wondering, how gimped are Claws these days?

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Just to answer the original question, claws are anything but gimped these days. The recent animation change was wonderful.


 

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My only wish is that they weren't so "Wolverine-y" :/ But yes from what little I've seen so far the animations do look cool.


 

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Against high-hp mobs such as AVs, Claws has a higher DPS than BS.

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again this will be dependant upon various conditions such as claws BU (forget the name of it) hitting for the cascade effect and doesnt take into account specific builds or slotting. As I stated I have a huge damage output on my BS with 0 downtime, I find it hard to beleive that claws with out DPS my Broadsword on a single target, thats not a definative answer as I clearly cant know this for sure.

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The following is assuming a slotting of 3xDamage and 1xRecharge in all attacks, assumes all attacks hit and Hasten is running.

Broadsword has a DPS of 5.25 BI/sec and Claws has a DPS of 5.69 BI/sec.

See this thread for more details.

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Interesting and thanks for the link makes DM seem interesting, however the benchmark doesnt mean a great deal as assumptions made are somewhat...limited, I dont rate the slotting as clearly the different powers need a different approach. My BS/SR carries quickness so can pull off an attack chain of just Head Splitter+Hack+Disembowel in a permanent attack chain. Also doesnt seem to carry any information on criticals (admittedly I only glanced the thread) and wouldnt the huge damage criticals of BS (with relvant slotting) stretch it out in front.


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Criticals are included in the calculations, and the reason DM is so far infront is because it assumes there are 7 mobs available for a Soul Drain (something which I and others in that thread, don't think should be counted).


 

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DM is lovely single target DPS cna against EBs and AVs is specially nice cause there are fewer of them with resistance to it. I'm willing to bet it would come dead last in AoE damage, with the 2 minute recharge on soul drain and the 3 minute one on Dark Consumption, an neither exactly doing much damage


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Criticals are included in the calculations, and the reason DM is so far infront is because it assumes there are 7 mobs available for a Soul Drain (something which I and others in that thread, don't think should be counted).

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I concur, SD with mobs shouldnt be counted really as its rebalancing, its like using Invincibility in hoards of mobs (pre-nerf) to gauge defence calculations. However it does clearly illustrate a point, the sets are all different, some have +acc bonus in them and what is an optimal slotting for one isnt for another so the outcome is not even remotely useful in real terms. As far as I see you cannot group all things together on a level playing field in a game of this variation, Im sure that by changing the slotting adding a bit of this, a bit of that and someone can come out with a whole slew of different numbers.

What is it they say? 88% of all statistics are made up on the spot


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My only wish is that they weren't so "Wolverine-y" :/ But yes from what little I've seen so far the animations do look cool.

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The villain claws look different, they are curved and infinitely more cool, but playing a villain would force to make a different type of character.


 

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I have a lvl 50 Claws/regen scrapper and I love them, go for it!


 

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Clawgen is fun.
Clawvuln is quite good.
Clawflexes is fun but late blooming.
Clawmor is quite hard to play.


 

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I'm planning an alt based on a Werewolf character I played years ago. But was wondering, how gimped are Claws these days?

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Claws is great, the attacks chain fantastically, with regen you can just keep attacking for ever. Just make sure you take follow up.


 

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The villain claws look different, they are curved and infinitely more cool

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I want curvier hero claws *pouts*


 

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I'm planning an alt based on a Werewolf character I played years ago. But was wondering, how gimped are Claws these days?

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Claws is great, the attacks chain fantastically, with regen you can just keep attacking for ever. Just make sure you take follow up.

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yeah follow up can be chained to make a perma build up if you get it right, ignore the naysayers as there are very few truely gimped powers out there, some people just suit some more than others


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I don't like claws the outfront damage is too low for my taste.