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Some stalkers have perception bonuses, one stalker could see through my invis (power pool), so dont assume your cloak will work all the time.
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Actually I don't. The huge range of my snaipe is generally what I rely on 
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Just to say to those interested in building a stalker hunter, Tactics and TD can see through hide and stealth but just because you can see them that doesnt mean you will see them 
I am well versed with staying on the blindside I fight people who see me all the time including SRs and Devices and yeah, sometimes they will peg me but i still get my fair share of kills.
For devices blasters I recommend you never move off caltops as it takes me a split second to drop down from above and also fear anyone with TP foe
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For devices blasters I recommend you never move off caltops as it takes me a split second to drop down from above and also fear anyone with TP foe
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Hmmm, you seem to be suggesting the Dev blaster sit tight and wait for the stalker to come to them. As you said, tp foe is a problem, so if the stalker knows where you are then you're going to get tped off your caltrops.
FAR better imho to go after them. You won't be jumping down onto me, in a split second or otherwise as odds are I'll be above you, lining up a shot
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Dont most people have the camera way back now so that they dont have a blind side.
I know what stalk-obot means. It requires using the terrain rather than just relying on stealth and hide. Which I imagine are becomming increasingly ineffective.
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For devices blasters I recommend you never move off caltops as it takes me a split second to drop down from above and also fear anyone with TP foe
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Hmmm, you seem to be suggesting the Dev blaster sit tight and wait for the stalker to come to them. As you said, tp foe is a problem, so if the stalker knows where you are then you're going to get tped off your caltrops.
FAR better imho to go after them. You won't be jumping down onto me, in a split second or otherwise as odds are I'll be above you, lining up a shot
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oooh bad move, if you are flying you will be downed by impale
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oooh bad move, if you are flying you will be downed by impale
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You think I'm close enough for you to use it? Snipe has a VERY long range.
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do you know what i do to hovering AR blasters?
Hide+Stealth+Grant invis
BU+Impale+placate+AS/or an attack again
there is another trick tool that i use as a nice surprise
3 slotted placate for range and 3 slotted impale for range and watch who snipes who
Soon we will be demonstrating a team tp spines stalker team in sirens as well......
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You think I'm close enough for you to use it? Snipe has a VERY long range.
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Even more so if you have energy melee as your secondary
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You think I'm close enough for you to use it? Snipe has a VERY long range.
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I must say I am really enjoying my PvP'ing sessions at the moment. Its getting to the point that you have fought your enemy numerous times and thus know what they are gonna do/behave (this is making for some truely interesting and classic battles).
I would like to point out that you may get me with snipe. However, a team mate stalker would no doubt be rubbing his hands with glee as you are just stationed there (flying or not).
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Hmmm. Does impale stun or just toggle drop and -fly? I've yet to be impaled so don't know. It's that stun that's the problem, especially if I don't have a BF. If I'm not stunned then you're not going to get to use your AS, especially after the caltops go down.
But stalk-obot and you have raised an important point, I need to be able to execute a plan-B getaway. If I'm in melee range I'm fighting the stalker's fight and can't be having that so am considering 3 slotting swift and sprint.
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It'll still be me sniping you 2 slots for range on snipe should still give me a comfortable margin of error
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Hmmm. Does impale stun or just toggle drop and -fly? I've yet to be impaled so don't know. It's that stun that's the problem, especially if I don't have a BF. If I'm not stunned then you're not going to get to use your AS, especially after the caltops go down.
But stalk-obot and you have raised an important point, I need to be able to execute a plan-B getaway. If I'm in melee range I'm fighting the stalker's fight and can't be having that so am considering 3 slotting swift and sprint.
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It'll still be me sniping you 2 slots for range on snipe should still give me a comfortable margin of error
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Impale will - fly and immoblise you (so you prob want get very far at all).
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Max Powerz: Lv 50 Tanker
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Overlord of E.V.I.L.
My Brute - http://maxy-khaos.mybrute.com/
LF SG! Arc ID# 193083
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I would like to point out that you may get me with snipe. However, a team mate stalker would no doubt be rubbing his hands with glee as you are just stationed there (flying or not).
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I can't confirm it but based on some of the reactions from the ppl I've sniped I think you can shoot further than the shot can be heard - will need to test that on someone. My damage output isn't at its full potential yet; I've yet to get her SOs and she still don't have assault (she's only 21st lvl).
I have been taken down by numerous stalkers since this toon first entered SCs and the point of this thread was not to tout my uber stalker-hunter but to share with the community that its possible to build a non-controller toon that not only can fend off stalkers but can take the fight to them.
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I would like to point out that you may get me with snipe. However, a team mate stalker would no doubt be rubbing his hands with glee as you are just stationed there (flying or not).
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I can't confirm it but based on some of the reactions from the ppl I've sniped I think you can shoot further than the shot can be heard - will need to test that on someone. My damage output isn't at its full potential yet; I've yet to get her SOs and she still don't have assault (she's only 21st lvl).
I have been taken down by numerous stalkers since this toon first entered SCs and the point of this thread was not to tout my uber stalker-hunter but to share with the community that its possible to build a non-controller toon that not only can fend off stalkers but can take the fight to them.
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To be honest there is quite afew builds that are good! Its due to skill and knowledge (and experience). If you come to sirens call on union and watch some of the PvP regulars you will see how difficult it can be (but I get an added buzz from the challenge).
There are sooooo many (it seems like that to me) builds that prevent the stalker doing his job and are able to take the fight to them. There is not one AT that cannot do it (build wise is different but then it should be). There are ways around it and im sure if you ask the regular pvp'ers, Stalkers are not as uber as many people believe them to be.
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Max Powerz: Lv 50 Tanker
Villains
Max Khaos: Lv 50
Overlord of E.V.I.L.
My Brute - http://maxy-khaos.mybrute.com/
LF SG! Arc ID# 193083
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do you know what i do to hovering AR blasters?
Hide+Stealth+Grant invis
BU+Impale+placate+AS/or an attack again
there is another trick tool that i use as a nice surprise
3 slotted placate for range and 3 slotted impale for range and watch who snipes who
Soon we will be demonstrating a team tp spines stalker team in sirens as well......
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I get a 3 Slotted Impale to Range 62 (even-level SOs).
AR/* Blasters have Burst (Range 90), Slug (Range 95), Sniper (Range 120). A Range in each (sans Sniper) and you're at ~110 for each. AR still Snipes Stalker.
But, as have been mentioned before, there are no safe distances in this game. That extra range is very little compared for someone super speeding in on the Blaster while performing his Snipe...
the range that placate gives with impale combined with hide+stealth+grant invis allows to snipe with impale sort of without really being seen from the hovering AR...it takes a lot to be seen if you got these 3 stacked
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You think I'm close enough for you to use it? Snipe has a VERY long range.
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and Im very good at getting close to people who can 'see' me, plenty in Sirens will testify to that. I am also good at orchestrating a mass killing of anyone too annoying
Also as food for thought, (and just in my own stalker as far as i know) you cant kill me with snipe and once u hit me once i will be well gone, instinct if hit in air is to turn off fly and use SS and corners, if Im on floor then its just round the corners. I know how you could make life more difficult for me but its riskier for you and im not saying 
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What a breath of fresh air in a PvP thread. People getting along and sharing tactics from both sides, gotta love it
I for one play with my camera as far back as possible and have a bind on the "F" key to target nearest enemy for when a stalker i can see tries sneaking up on me.
Snipe is very, very useful, but i don't use it in the way i believe it was intended to be used
Power Push > Snipe is a great combo to stop runners after landing my two empowered alpha melee's.
Also, i'm not sure whether a lot of people have noticed this or not, but when turning a corner or just coming in range of anyone with hide, invis, stealth etc you will see them for a split second, but cannot target them. This is a great tool when baiting too
Tactics huh? Well a good one i like to use, or liked to use(i miss my jingle jet ';(
Was when flyin high and chasin a villain, use beanbag hopefully if it hits it will detoggle their fly so they take fall dmg, then switch off my own fly so i take fall dmg, if high enuff it should raise my defiance so a kwik snipe or slug will finish them off. Ez! tho it is risky in that u might land them in the middle of some npc's and u too when u fall to the ground, but so far i dont think i have caused debt doin it. tho i do try to b careful doin it.
Some stalkers have perception bonuses, one stalker could see through my invis (power pool), so dont assume your cloak will work all the time.
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