Perma Hasten? Please double check my math.


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Bear with me here - I haven't played since I7 (I think?) and have just renewed my account.
I am bringing some friends and we will be running some teams together and I am trying to make haste permanent by stacking some abilities from different classes, so here is the math that I have; Can someone please tell me if I have it horribly wrong?

Firstly, The +recharge I have will be from Speed Boost (50%), Accelerate Metabolism (25%), Hasten (70%) and 3 recharge +3 SOs (97.23%).
That should make Accelerate Metabolism permanent with a recharge of 112 seconds and a duration of 120 seconds.
Hasten falls a little short but with 4 +3 SOs, it will gain a further 5.74% recharge to be permanent with a recharge of 119 seconds and a duration of 120.

Firstly, is any of what I have mentioned here true? I have taken the information for the durations and recharges and buffs from these abilities from the character builder which I am not sure I trust...

Secondly, do the effects of +recharge buffs activate retroactively? If I have Accelerated Metabolism up and then use Hasten, with the 70% reduction from hasten effect the already recharging AM, or will it only effect abilities used after the casting of Hasten?


 

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Mid's is pretty good. You can check it if you like with Red Tomax or you can just type something like [speed boost] in the game.

On to the general topic: It's very easy to get 5% or 10% global recharge with IO sets, and you don't need to wait till level 50 either. (It gets very expensive if you want more than about 15%, but the first few bonuses are cheap.) You can slot five level 30 or 31 Crushing Impacts in a melee attack and have full damage, good accuracy, and good endurance & recharge, for instance. Doctored Wounds also gives you a recharge bonus for slotting five, although you might lose a few percent off "Full heal" . You should be able to get five of each of those for, I haven't checked prices lately, maybe six million? Buy recipes, not crafted IO's.


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It takes just slightly less than 110% rchg+70% rchg from hasten, to have permahasten, assuming hasten was slotted with 3 normal rchg IOs.


 

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AM requires (((422+.2.244)/120)-1) = 253.54% +recharge in order to be permanent. You've got 50% from SB, 30% from AM, 70% from Hasten (assuming permanent), and 97.23% from slotting. That's 247.43% +recharge so you're actually just a tiny bit short (6.11% to be precise).

Hasten requires (((450+.924)/120)-1) = 275.77% +recharge in order to be permanent. You've got exactly the same amount of +rech in Hasten so you're 28.34% +recharge short.