vindizzLe

Why do you care?

I don't know who it was that claimed you were the best forum troll ever, but that was clearly a misconception.

Then again, people thought Sixy was a good troll too.

People also thought that Felonious was a great sonic.

your opinion matters.

Every single test team you played on was garbage.

Velocity was the first test team I ever joined, I started in the first officials I was eligible for (the ladder's inception) immediately.

Plenty of players that joined when I did were also given the opportunity to play. They may not have started, but they played. There were plenty of teams on test that rotated in other players on their roster during officials.

Hell, I got stuck therming with Johnny Wildfire while we were both in VORI. And Kaiserin was online and ready to play.

Don't tell me what's bull and what isn't, you've never played for anyone worth mentioning. Case closed.

Running a small league on live alongside a test ladder is a bad idea. The intention isn't to split the focus, but rather to draw a majority to one area in order to strengthen it. As opposed to running a seperate league/ladder on live, you could opt instead to set aside a day every week where we run kickballs starting a certain time until there aren't enough players to continue on.

I understand that people try (and normally succeed) to get KBs going nightly, but back in the day, Friday night kickballs on test always garnered interest from not only the high end competitive players, but newer players as well. Posting on the boards about it regularly and getting a larger portion of players to try and make it on a set night isn't a bad idea, and achieves a similar goal that a separate league on live does.

On the note of high end teams allowing players to warm the bench more often, I can speak more from experience here than you can considering you're terrible and don't have much test league experience, but the best of 3 match option allows teams to rotate in non-starters so that they have a chance to prove themselves as well. This goes back to the issue of players practicing and proving that they deserve to start for a team. If we're running another league on live to accommodate "bench-warmers", that may eventually cause a division between players trying to run a test league successfully, and those who would rather stay on live simply because they don't have to try in order to start for their teams.

You've been trying to make this argument about top tier teams "spreading the wealth" forever now, and it's an absolute joke.

Practically every single competitive FPS that has enjoyed a level of sustained prosperity in the realm of competition has not used an "open" draft, or forcefully spread out skilled players in order to generate a greater level of players on various teams.

Using Counterstrike as an example, the game has simply succeeded by sheer virtue of players joining teams, practicing, taking their losses, gaining experience, moving on to other teams until they eventually find their success.

I for one would love to help the community, but not at the full expense of the level of fun that I'm having. That fun comes partially from the game system, but I stay because of the people that I've been able to team with over time.

Every team that has found success in this game did so through extensive practice, taking repeated losses and eventually finding success, similar to the example I used above with Counterstrike.

My philosophy with helping D6ers to practice wasn't getting them all together onto a team and putting them up against another team. I honestly preferred to take a select few dedicated D6ers, throw them into a D8 match, and have them take their deaths. When you're playing with individuals who have a higher skill level than you, you push yourself further to learn, adapt, and reach their level, if at least to "keep up" with them.

Attempting to get a larger group of inexperienced players and peppering in experienced players in order to create more teams only ends up creating frustration for certain players in the end. It takes practice and dedication to eventually reach a level of success in anything that you do, even a hobby.

I may run my mouth and act like an absolute idiot on the 24/7, but I'll be the first person to admit the astronomical amount of losses I've taken. Many of them deserved, some of them notsomuch. With all of those losses I've taken, I've still come back to play the game and enjoy myself. If someone else is unable to do so, perhaps gaming competitively in this game isn't for them. It's that simple.

I can name plenty of teams that were inexperienced, were laughed at, and were destroyed in practice after practice, official after official. Eventually they came into their own and got the credit that they were looking for. I can think of plenty of players that over time have gained experience and flourished in particular roles in PvP. I know you're bitter that you'll never be one of them, Supermax, but that doesn't disprove my point.

Case in point: Attempting to force a draft on the ladder is a terrible idea, and that's putting my own personal bias aside.

On the note of the league being on test or on Freedom. The pros still outweigh the cons. It's not impossible to generate interest on a live server when all of the PvPers are now concentrated there. With all of us in arena chat, in zones, and doing kickballs on live, it is certainly an attainable goal if that goal is to spread interest to other players on a live server.

Freedom as a fallback server is a great idea, and while I understand that those that took part in the FPvPL have access to IO'd builds, I can speak from experience when I say that many D6ers that joined our team eventually became inactive simply because they could not afford a proper build in order to make them competitive. Playing on test helps to circumvent that issue, and guarantees that newer players that may not have the means to create a "Statesguard ReLoaded" (see: Retarded) esque build for one toon, much less a variety. Not all of us are Peril. Test ensures that if we have the stable of characters, we have the means to see them fully IO'd out, which elevates the level of competition even further. Again, this also creates build diversity, and line-up diversity. Isn't that something that a bunch of you were whining about?

reaver johnsonville, lmao.

D6 finals is when this happened, I believe.