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Quote:If DC should lose they would keep most of the above. They would lose only what it was in Action comics n.1 and even the S shield was modified from what it was in AC 1 .The Superman of today is a totally different character from what he was in the golden age and Siegel and Shuster have nothing to do with it. Basically what DC should have to change would be the first name of Supie girl friend : she could not be called Lois but she could have the last name Lane.Originally Posted by Nericus
As to Superman staying at DC, I think he would even if the rights reverted back to the creator's estates. Sure there may be some sour grapes and bad feelings between the two parties as one would expect, but I suspect that DC would be very eager to keep Superman given that he is one of their big 3 characters and that losing him would mean a rather monumental shakeup to the DC Universe. They would need another Crisis/Zero Hour type event to erase Superman and all things connected to him from their universe:
1. Superman
2. Kal-el
3. Krypton/Kryptonite
4. Jor-el, Lara, Zod and any other Krytponians
5. Supergirl and Superboy
6. Krypto
7. Daily Planet and all its characters
8. LUTHOR
9. The "S" shield
10. Fortress of Solitude
11. The monster DOOMSDAY
and who knows what else I'm forgetting. Picture all that going away if the creator estates win and decide to not strike a bargain with DC, that would really shake up DC and probably the industry as a whole. Then would come the question: who would get Superman? IDW, Dynamite, Marvel, Dark Horse?
SHAZAM/Captain Marvel would have to replace Superman if DC lost him.
By the way the original name of the member of the Superman and his father were Jor-l and Kal-l (the e was added later) -
Quote:the irony is that the only character that you can create that has some likeness with the comic book original (and you need some tinkering around) is the Human Torch. A Marvel character!!!!Originally Posted by Slaunyeh
A game that has to recreate Superman as an ice tanker is not a very well designed game.
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Quote:the last three letters (RPG)were rarely played from the producers and gamers themselves in the MMO industry. They were just a "you cannot give your character that name" but nobody cared about what your character was supposed to be so you had priests and other holy men that got assassination quests, warriors on healing quest and so on.Originally Posted by Electric-Knight
If I don't think of it as an MMO(RPG), I suppose it could actually be an entertaining Marvel-ized Gauntlet (Dark Legacy) distraction now and then.
Just seems like a multiplayer game and not really an MMO(RPG... seriously, what happened to those last three letters in this industry?).
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Quote:The system of DCUO is a simplified and slightly modified version of the Everquest game. In fact the DC universe that the game shows is the bizzarro-SOE version of it.Originally Posted by Slaunyeh
As for DCUO, I think the biggest problem with that game, for me, is the complete disconnect between the character mechanics and the superhero genre. It's like they designed the core functionality of the game before knowing what to do with it.
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Quote:Possibly it will mean that it will use the same Diablo interfaceOriginally Posted by I Burnt The Toast
I am not an MMO person...only ever REALLY played CoH, BUT am considering trying Marvel when it comes out. Can you please explain to me though what Diablo style means (Yes I know Diablo is a game hehehe).
http://www.diablowiki.net/Interface
and style of play, that was by the way alike to the Marvel Alliance interface -
Quote:In CO they consider the group of enemies, not the single guy: If before you died you killed every single member of the group you were facing they don't respawn, but if even one was left alive everyone will respawn and you will have to fight that whole group once again. In the alerts however that don't happens and the guys that you killed don't respawnOriginally Posted by BlueBattler
I have been playing Champions Online and enjoying it for the most part but I had a mission last night that I almost pulled my hair out over.
I have noticed this in both CO and DC Online, so perhaps it's a standard MMO feature that COH did not adopt, but in those games if you leave the instance all the enemies you fought respawn. And in CO, at least, when you die the enemies regain full health.
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Quote:On the other hand in the fantasy genre everyone has superpowers. Simply the origin of powers is magic instead of science.Originally Posted by Psylenz
CoH never would have outsold WoW.
CoH was horrendously marketed.
To me it's a superhero game, but you can play a wizard, a troll, a mad scientist, a fairy, a cowboy, a soldier, medieval warrior, a space man, or an alien. The character creator was NOT advertised the way it could have been.
Think of a mage, a paladin or even a plain warrior. They have powers and skills beyond the human range.
In fact WoW would be a excellent superhero game changing nothing except the environement that is seting it in the modern times instead of the medieval ones -
Quote:It is only in the last two years that the superheroes movies are making some money (there were exceptions but they were the exception that proves the rule)and that because the superhero genre is the latest craze like there was the western craze, the pirates craze, the martial arts craze and so on.Originally Posted by Angry_Citizen
I'm sure automobiles were quite a niche market at first. Then Ford made it non-niche. Saying that freaking superheroes are a niche market is pretty ignorant - look at the ticket sales for all these superhero movies.
Look instead at the MMOG market: there are only 3 superhero games , all three have gone free to play and one of them is about to close down and no company, so far like I know, is working to do a new one. How others have said there is a crisis in the MMOG market, even mighty WoW has lost players, and the ones that that would go down are, of course, the less popular genres -
Quote:Really ? You don't block and you die? I have 3 lvl 40 characters and the only istance when I blocked an attack was in the old tutorial when there was a quest that requested you to block to go on.Aside that if you stand idle your character will autoblock for you, you have a better chance of survival if you attack forgeting about blocking.Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim
The reasons I've seen for people 'thrashing' CO are legitimate, especially when you compare it to its superior, CoH. There's a lot of things CO doesn't do right if you're a CoH vet. Blocking, for example. You don't block? You die. No questions asked. Either block or get stomped. Blocking doesn't let you attack, and I can't tell you just how much I hate having to sit there with the Block key held down waiting for 2-3 enemies to stop attacking long enough for me to get a shot in. I feel like all of my characters are constantly on the ropes with no opening.
By the way there are healing and temporary invulnerability powers that work way better than blocking -
Quote:The archetypes are just premade characters (with two powers slots less than freeforms)and they are not the best choice of powers and skill (no real player would create a character that way)The way to enjoy the game is to create a freeform character. Now even silver (free players )players can buy a freeform slot on the market.Originally Posted by Vaelynn
Maybe I'm to used to COX, I was hoping to re-create my characters in CO but found the Archtypes to be somewhat confusing or limited. My main is a Energy/Energy Blaster type of character but I just can't find something similar in theme over at CO.
What you would say about a girl that has superstrenght, invulnerability, fly,can shoot laser beams from the eyes and has superbreath ? That is one of my freeform characters not the cousin of that guy (okay i admit that i was inspired from her when creating that character lol ) -
Quote:That is the point : if they would invest , let us say, 70 or 80 millions a year in CoH a 10 milion years income could be a worty investiment but I suspect they were investing in it much more.Originally Posted by Torment And Agony
... but I'll get to that in a minute.....
Lets toss some numbers around for fun. CoH I understand makes $10 million /year. Even if they put time, effort, and money into marketing to say... double that.... you're looking at $20 million/ year. A lot to you and I, but not so to a company "worth" around $5 billion. Simply announcing the "sunset" of CoH... their stock surged 15%... thats an increase in their "value" of $750 million!!!!
Still can't wrap your head around them throwing away $10 million /year? Consider the most valuable thing to a software company.... the people. The people are the most valuable thing they have. Where we see a great team of Zwill et al and the community as a whole, they can see a waste of resources. Like having a goose that can lay golden eggs only pumping out tin. "They are only making $10 mil /year? They should be making $100 mil!" Already it seems they have found positions for the Paragon staff in new projects. Again.... an investment sacrificing CoH to better use the staff elsewhere.
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Quote:If you chose the free form your first choice is the energy building power and the game explains you like it works . With the archetipes you don't get the explanation because the powers are preset but you do not really need it because by default the energy builder is an autoattack (you can disable it in the options menu but if you are able to do that you already have an understanding of the basic game) so you don't have to worryOriginally Posted by Bad_Influence
At the risk of sounding ignorant, I will ask: what the hell is that, even? Where is it? I dont even know where that is.....
Since when in the old tutorial of CoH they told you how to get out or how to lvl? You had to finish the tutorial firstQuote:the only thing I remember being told about in the "tutorial" was blocking. That is NOT MUCH. they don't tell you how to level up, I was in the tutorial and had no idea how to get out, or even when that would happen. -
two words
Sappers
labyrinthine oranbega (well there are really three words but...) -
Quote:let us say that keeping your computer on cost you 10.000 dollars a day. Would you keep your computer on or invest your money somewhere else were you will get a greater profit than 100 dollars?Originally Posted by Talionis
Why is it going away? My understanding is that it is making money. If I were making a hundred dollars a month profit (profit is money after all my expenses) for basically leaving my computer on, I don't turn the computer off. Some money is better than No Money.
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Quote:To sell something you have to find a buyer that would pay you the right price and contrary to the popular belief i believe that they would be happy to sell CoH if someone would put forward a serious offer for itOriginally Posted by Nericus
Anyone else think they could have managed to sell the game?
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The sad thing is when something that has a long history be it a comic book, tv serial or a video game announce that is about to close down there is usually a flood of players, readers, whatever that want to be there at the end, but that have no real interest if the game would continue. I am sorry to say this but the last day players don't mean much.
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the real point is not the profit that they did make but the profit in relation with the money that they invested. For example if they invested £100,000,000 and they got a yearly profit of £ 1,000,000 they should have to close down the game post haste before the stockholders would hang them. Why? Simple because if they would deposit the money in a bank they would get at least twice that amount of money with the yearly interest and without any risk.
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It seems that in CO they are waiting for us
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A new hope.Congratulations
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If the game would be saved i would be all joy and celebration for one day...and the next day: this here quest is bugged, this other quest is too difficult, you should have done it this way, the good old times when the hollows were the hollows...in a word the everyday stuff
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But really do you think that slandering GW2 would save CoH ? Really?
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Quote:And a lot of guys beside Wayne has donned the mantle of the bat: Dick Grayson , Jean Paul Valley, the whole Batman inc. (the Bruce Wayne proget to give every country its Batman) why you should not be the next one? Oh yes there were also a Batman or twenty in CoH before they fell under the attack of the supervillain called Copyright InfringementOriginally Posted by Tenzhi
That's a great superhero game where Batman can be the hero.
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Quote:If you like single player games you can try : "Batman Arkam Asylum" and/or "Batman:Arkam city", there not only MMOG aroundOriginally Posted by Anti_Proton
...where I can be the hero! Is that too much to ask?
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Quote:OMG!!! It is true...now we are bound to the game forever!!! It is like to be married without the option to divorceOriginally Posted by TerraDraconis
Did you delete all of your characters and send a note to supporrt stating that you will never ask for them to restore them?
If you didn't do that you just dropped to Premium. You can't rage quit anymore. Heh. And I fully expect you to be back and since you'll be premium you won't be able to post your next rage quit without paying $15.00 first.