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  1. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
    I'm finding it somewhat funny that you think my -opinion- on this subject is absolutely wrong and your -opinion- is absolutely right.
    This isn't an opinion of "what tastes better cake or pie". This is about looking at two things and seeing which one better matches a third. It's not opinion to say a cake is closer to a cookie than a cheetah is.

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    Regardless as I've said this game already provides for a wide range of playstyles all the way from solo content up to huge leagues. Just because you don't like a certain subset of what the game provides doesn't make that subset wrong in the least. It's like saying a particular color in the color spectrum is "wrong" and the rest are "right". *shrugs*
    I wasn't aware we were talking about what anyone liked. I thought it was about whether or not the game content creates the feel of comics. That's what the topic was in the post I responded to.

    Now, it may be possible to make content that gives a mass battle and at the same time presents the story to each member that they are the protagonist hero, but it's not going to be easy, because comics aren't like that. Stories in general are not like that.
  2. Quote:
    Originally Posted by NekoNeko View Post
    What really bothers me about the page you link to is that it claims "bitterly" rhymes with "literally".
    There are three pronunciations listed, and I assume the rhyme was with ˈli-tər-lē\.

    Of course, I want to go to wherever they speak that dialect and start punching people in the head, but for them, it does seem to rhyme. But, then, people who pronounce "pen" and "pin" the same piss me off, so you can understand how I feel about them leaving out a ******* vowel.
  3. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mazey View Post
    You've forgotten about trading.
    That automatically makes things in your scenario better than the Coupon Collector's Problem.
    Even if you have to sell 3 duplicates to make enough to buy 1 new, that still lowers the expectation on the time to collect the full sets.

    Take your scenario, and include trading, and you have a far better situation the Coupon Collector's Problem, and the difference between the two only grows the more sets you add.
    Trading improves nothing. It creates a secondary economy. The comparison to the collector problem is to illustrate how long the odds actually are to people who get nauseous when they look at big numbers. Trading does not change the actual probabilities involved in getting the pack by gambling.

    Also, I'd guess a 40X difference between the low and high priced parts, not a 3X. It's a tad different.
  4. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
    Again that's something that you want stopped.
    Offer an alternative that could actually work effectively in a MMO setting.
    I'm all ears here...

    EDIT: You added to your post after I posted this. So you want a bunch of small team content? What if I think epic "comic book" battles are better represented by massive 24 member leagues all working on a single trial?
    You'd be wrong.

    I have certainly seen comics where large groups of heroes fight. If the battles are important, you get smaller groups accomplishing one aspect while the rest do something else. That is much better modeled by a group version of the clone arc - where you are playing a small, but necessary part, but are kept informed of the part your clone is playing.

    I have also seen a bunch of heroes gang up on Galactus, but the only time that is ever successful is in Marvel Zombies. Even then, it follows the more common plot of "heros fight big bad, heroes lose, smaller group of specialized heroes do something important that changes the battle significantly." Again, this is something better handled by the normal team based content.

    The idea of supers throwing enough bodies at a problem to make it go away is something I have never seen in a comic or anywhere else, because it's ****** storytelling.
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
    Yes people like you and Rubberlad are suggesting that there's a problem here but you aren't really providing much more of a solution other than saying "the Devs should make this game more like a comic book". How do you do that exactly?
    Don't throw 30 people into a bucket and expect them all to feel important?

    On a 4 person team, i can be completely convinced that the group would fail without me - and I can also know that the other 3 people feel the same (ie that they are the important one). It's a good bet that none of us are correct, but it's the feeling that's important more than the reality.

    On a 20 man team, nothing will produce that same feeling, because I can see that my actions are having no noticeable effect.

    One of those is a good design for a game about superheros and the other isn't.
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tetsuko_NA View Post
    Here's the paragraph.



    Please highlight the 'if' you see here.
    Thanks.
    Please highlight a single word there which is proscriptive.
  7. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
    But just to play Devil's Advocate one could argue that groups of players having to figure out the best way to complete a MMO trial is in itself a fun gaming activity regardless of its relationship to a form of fictional literature. Sometimes it's simply hard to translate abstract source material into a format that can be used to create workable MMO content. If you can figure out how to perfectly capture the grandeur of your comic book scenarios and squish them into the confines of a MMO I'm sure the Devs of this game would love to talk to you about it.
    Just because you can't emulate it completely is no reason to make a hard left and floor it out of the general neighborhood at top speed.

    Being on a trial not only imperfectly emulates the feel of a superhero, it goes more for the feel of 1984. The cutscene at the beginning should be in faux black-and-white, and a should have someone in a military suit match back in forth in front of the league forcing us to repeat over and over "As an individual, I am unimportant. My significance is nothing in the face of the collective." She could even have the Frau Farbissina accent and be swinging her riding crop while we repeated the deprotagonization mantra.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Firemoth View Post
    And that idea of the random gender spawn sounds freakin AWESOME!
    Right up to the moment you give your pets names.
  9. Probably never happen given that it has the same issues as whip attacks.
  10. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rainbow Avenger View Post
    They probably were balancing the discrepancy against the recharge which is base 20 secs versus 90 secs, but still, kind of shabby.
    And, really, that's a kind of balance that hurts the set. The need to constantly renew multiple debuffs to maintain the same effects you get from other sets while activating fewer powers isn't a good thing.
  11. Quote:
    Originally Posted by VoodooGirl View Post
    Would you rather the Devs sit and personally respond to each and every bug/feedback post - or - would you rather they spend their time gathering that information and work on fixing the problems and issues that are brought to their attention?
    When the bugs go live after being reported, it's obvious they did neither.
  12. Quote:
    Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
    The devs have been pushing buggy issue releases/non-Issue game updates for pretty much the entire lifetime of the game, why would you expect anything different?
    It's not as noticeable when they have 6 months between releasing piles of crap to clean up the mess they made. Now that they weekly take a dump in my computer, I notice more.
  13. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Issen View Post
    While I can understand your frustation given your character types, that not a fault of the Trial. I've learned very quickly that a TPN is a very blitzkreg-style Trial. You have to move fast. You also learn that you need to assign roles. For example, your controller or your brute would be perfect for the indoor portions. It just means you have to be more organized as to the division of roles.
    It means you have to pay more attention to party makeup in fulfilling certain roles - something this game has rightly avoided as much as possible in the past.
  14. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex View Post
    I agree to an extent, although I think "literally" is often not directly interchangeable with "figuratively." A statement like "I've figuratively been to hell and back today" has a different tone. I actually can't think of a word to replace "literally" in that sentence that indicates that the speaker is aware that the statement is technically false but so extreme as to be almost true.
    I've got a word to replace "literally" in that sentence. "". That's it. Just stick in "" and the meaning does not change at all. "I've been to hell and back today" is a perfectly fine sentence with an easy to understand meaning.
  15. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Electric-Knight View Post
    Serious question: Has the English language been decimated?
    Well, it would of been, but their still people who protect it.
    /illiteracy
  16. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Laevateinn View Post
    I'm pretty happy to see this. It rewards versatile, well-rounded heroes who develop high capability in many fields, in this case having both good single-target and AoE damage.
    And you do that on an Electric Melee character how, exactly?
  17. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tetsuko_NA View Post
    So, when he said that women dressing in certain ways pleases him, and that women should to that more, he wasn't informing women how to dress to please him?
    Informing? Sure. If (<---important word - don't skip it) a woman has a desire to please him, then yes, he has informed them how to do so.

    But that is a long stretch from him making demands or even requests that they do so.
  18. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bosstone View Post
    Yeah, my MM won't be in any trials, even though I'd love to play the BAF prisoner escape sequence with him. Looking forward to I22 for that.
    Since the MM incarnate level buff and making the single target buffs into group buffs, BAF is not terribly bad on a MM.

    Now, you couldn't pay me to ever run a LAM again.
  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bosstone View Post
    Not to mention that 150 Vanguard Merits is a hell of a lot if you haven't participated in a mothership raid. Threads arguably drop more often.
    They may drop more often, but what they don't do is drop for the last 15 levels before you reach 50.
  20. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Aura_Familia View Post
    If you're starting from no vanguard merits and aren't going for an alpha that uses that component doing the 3-4 BAFs will be faster. Threads drop faster than shards. Full stop.
    And you need 5 times as many of them. The only think that makes those faster is the freebie at the end that you get to choose.
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Another_Fan View Post
    And if the person who gave the very precise directions was completely wrong ?

    Because that is what happened here.
    No, that actually didn't happen. You're confused.
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mazey View Post
    How many people do you think had even heard the term "Coupon Collector's Problem" before it was brought up in regard to the super packs?
    Most everyone I would bother talking to in real life? Many people on any game theory board?

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    How exactly is using a term almost know-one knows, and using it inaccurately, "ease of communication"?
    Even if someone has not heard of it, they can look it up on wikipedia in 9 seconds and get a good grasp of the idea.

    Getting a collection of X from a random sample has lower odds that most people will estimate. This is caused by the fact that the chance of getting the last missing piece is much lower than the chance of getting the first few pieces. Those basic ideas are just as applicable here as in a strictly defined coupon collector.

    Even more to the point, you can limit the problem to a strict collector problem and generate an upper bound on the probability. In other words, you can create a hypothetical system that follows the exact problem and show how bad the odds are, then you can show that all the variances only make the odds worse.

    No, really, do what I just said. Imagine you want to collect 3 sets for 3 different ATs. Now imagine that the system only had those 3 sets in the pool and nothing else. Work out those odds - it is exactly the collector problem. Everyone here can do it. Then realize that none of the changes that make this hypothetical different than the real system will make the real system have better odds than that. That represents an upper bound on reality.

    If the best case it horrible, what does that say about the average and worst cases?
  23. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Party_Kake View Post
    If I purchase $5 in CCG content or super packs, I possess something. And, it turns out it's something desirable.
    This is flat out not true depending on your definition of "desirable". It seems very likely that it will be able to buy 5 packs and get nothing desirable.

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    Gambling means randomly winning or losing money, or exchangeable tokens that have money value, or chips that don't really have money value but can be exchanged for money, depending on how you look at that.
    Use that $5 and buy a dictionary.
  24. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bosstone View Post
    It takes 3 TF/raids or 3 trials to get a T1 Alpha
    It takes one ITF to get a T1 alpha if you're doing one of the recipes that uses that particular component or you happen to have the Vangard merits laying around. What time wasting TFs are you doing where you need to do 3 to get a T1 alpha?
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    I can do 3-4 BAFs in the time it takes me to do 1 ITF.
    But then you've done 3-4 BAFs, which is its own downside.