reckoner1

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    Oh Rheticus to answer your question about grieving or whatever you want to call it, it's nothing more than plain and simple harassment in any shape or form.

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    The problem is, what consitutes harrassment is subjective. Simply defeating someone in a consensual pvp zone could be considered "grief" to some.


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    That causes frustration from another's act that was directed at you or someone else personally with the intent of some sort of malice being inflicted.

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    How would you know if the person is intentionally (if they don't admit they are) causing malice or not?

    I think the main problem is people crying "grief" anytime something doesn't go there way. And their inability to see things from another perspective.

    For example, on the pvp servers in WoW, both the alliance and horde often had quests that involved killing the same type of mob in a similar location. People constantly complained about getting killed repeatedly by the same player and that they were beeing "griefed". However, if they looked at what happened objectively, they would have realised the person wasn't trying to spawn camp them, they were just on the same quest killing the same mob type. Instead of realising this and moving to a new location (or finding friends to help them defeat the guy) they spam "griefer" in chat and on the forums.