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Look at a Multistrike instead. Damage aura's are VERY end heavy: Multistrikes are perfect for them.

Energy Torrent does knockdown, not knockback, unless the foes are vulnerable to knockback or lower level.


Damage is the default choice: It's never going to hurt you. Although, I'd build several and try them out, it's not like shards are hard to come by.

Hmmmm....

Maybe look at the mu pool? Saves a power pick, but loses you some -tohit.

Although I've never noticed my ma/wp being especially delicate.....

Ok, I'm dyin'.

What was your run speed? I gotta know!

I find the absolute BEST toons are the ones with a strong theme.



This is incorrect, for several reasons already laid out in this thread. BS has ALWAYS been one of the best melee sets out there. At release, a fellow who went by the handle of 'The Confessor' ran a BS/dark toon that was...astonishing. The set has grown no weaker, although other sets have gotten somewhat stronger/newer.

If the resists to lethal bother you, fight lethal-weak foes. I recommend Carnival of Shadows.


Every attack includes a debuff, and can have more debuff slotted. If you don't understand why that's incredible, just trust me.

BS/sd is the only scrapper build that has a reasonable shot as single-tanking tower buffed Lord Recluse, or any of the Incarnate tf's. (Watching a BS/sd scrap wade through the hydra swarms and smash the pylons was....amazing.)

As I recall, Assault provides terrorize protection, verrry handy.

And, yes, with inherent fitness, I think every melee toon should have some leadership: It is just very nice, and you get enough of it?

It's not even close to 'minor.'

...I'm not so sure of this.

Bang for the buck, the Alpha slot is MUCH better than IO sets. Makes the game more casual friendly.

And the Alpha slot effects are quite strong. Yes, the currently released common and rare enhancers don't do a super amount, but there are far better ones on the horizon.

And the Alpha slot is only the first one...of TEN.

So.....excited.....

SD is so good it is broken, and the Dev's apparently like it that way. Thus it has become the default 'go to' powerset for minmax powergamers.

I have three of them at fifty myself.

/ela is, on the other hand, a perfectly awesome armor set. I have two at 50 and am thinking hard about another. It is resistance based with a nice little self heal that also serves as a mild version of conserve power. Even better, /ela is practically immune to endurance drains.

If you combine electric armor with electric melee, you create an unholy monster of awesome. You are immune to end drains, and you drain all about you. All of your attacks have a chance of draining the baddies and giving the end back to you.

Elec/elec's have infinite wells of endurance: They never stop. Sappers are nothing but pretty light shows, you can farm carnies for fun, and those darn freakshow super stunners are barely annoyances. Clockwork cannot harm you and rikti are barely work, except for the lethal swords. Take tough and weave.

I ran my elec/elec to 50 jiffy quick, and it was one of the most fun runs I've ever had. Thunderstrike is a pbaoe that does huge amounts of knockdown, which gives time for your energize to pop again and heal you back. Lightning Rod is...so much awesome. You have to see it to believe it. Plus, for even more damage, an elec/elec can run their damage aura without too much effort, and the end drain and damage REALLY starts to add up, one thing stacking on another.

Havoc and charged are solid little single target attacks, although I strongly recommend Air Superiority for more single target punch. It also adds even more knockdown, which will help your survivability. Jacons Ladder I find meh, others like the narrow cones. if you take Air Sup, do NOT take hover or fly: You only knockback protection is grounded, a power that you have to be on the ground to use. I strongly recommend a knockback IO on top of grounded.

At the very top-end, elec/elec has tons of potential: With serious investments it can get considerable amounts of +defense to stack with the very good resists and very good self-heal and very good melee mitigation. Mine, even with no sets slotted, is among my more durable toons. An elec armor tank with alpha slotting should be able to get among the highest resists in the game and stack it with some serious +def.

Plus, elec/elec is just fun to play. It looks awesome and sounds awesome.

So, you can play yet another FOTM, or you can have some real fun. Totally up to you.

Well, I was on an invuln, and hopping next to the pylons meant we had a precious few seconds to drop it while I scampered around the corner.

Toxic burns. IT BURNSSSSSSSsssssss......


Get a better server? My home server runs teams like that all the time.

Granted, I TF a lot.

A LOT.

But yeah, most of the deaths came from the tentacle room, not having any temps meant we were waaaay low on ranged, so we had to put on the big-boy pants and go get it done.

This, folks, is wisdom.

My inv is ridiculous: With one guy in range I'm at 52 percent. I did that to soak debuffs, but on LR it make's a very noticeable difference.

And he'll STILL plant ya if he gets a lucky roll in. I've seen truly MONSTER stoners drop in seconds, so fast the emp that was supporting them couldn't get a heal off.

Tower-buffed LR is no joke.

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http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=246342

Yeah, I died on both of them. I blame the fact that I suck.

The no-temps thing? That was just mean. I like me my monkeybuffs.

Ok, I popped a toon over, looks good.

Did this ever come together for you guys?

Oh good grief, not this crap again.

They are functionally identical to a ridiculous degree.

Play the one that looks better.

Here, check this build:


There's five slots reserved for Health and three for Stamina, on top of having alll thattt awesome.

This would then be topped off by the cardiac radial boost, for 33 end reduct and 20 damage resist, 11 and 6.7 of which will overcap.

That, is why invuln is good.

The maximum scrapper AOE is a spines/fire/mu, but honestly, it's such overkill.....

I'd go spines/fire/body myself, and enjoy the insane damage. You are going to die a LOT, be aware.

Personally, I think a slightly less (very slightly) insane AOE build is a claws/fire/body with the SRP alpha. Claws gives a tiny bit of mitigation in Focus, and you can build a massive AOE chain from spin and burn alone.

Plus you can stack followup and fiery embrace.

Whew. I need to sit down....

Yeah, that's why I always try to hit him, not the towers. (Blue is the most commonly skipped, so pulling him to blue is a viable spot, and has the advantage of putting you close to the flyer if it respawns on ya.)

The little extra aggro from tickling him seems to keep him more stationary. The time I saw that SR do it, LR was racing around like crazy, made for a very...scary experience.

No lie!

I've seen a few stone/x tanks do it pretty reliably with monster builds + rooted, and just out-heal his damage.

I've seen one truly monster inv/dm tank just pound him, but I think even that guy had to eat oranges and greens a couple of times.

But even the monster stoners can get cascade failures and faceplant before you can blink, so it's never a for sure thing.

The most reliable is a tanker and a healer, and the healer just rocks the heal like crazy. Even then it can be touch and go sometimes.

See, that encounter is one of the reasons why I chuckle at the folks who say tanks can always be replaced by brutes/scrappers: It just ain't so.

Most of the time, yes. Not always.

And frankly, the unlimited stacking of buffs is a far larger issue, anyway. You stack up sonic/force/ice buffs and a level six kitten can tank LR.

bs/sd is the only scrapper build that can do it 'sort of' reliably while LR is fully tower buffed. Other builds can often do it if they get lucky as well, mainly invuln and SR. (Only seen an SR survive it once, and had a sonic helping, and it was...messy.)

You want to get 80-odd percent defense to melee and lethal, as that covers all of LR's attacks (that I know of) aside from the end drain. Start the fight with three huge end insp's, and three huge defense insp's. Eat as many defense insp's as you need to to cover you while you approach at speed. If he tags you with the end drain, pop as many of the end's as you need to ride it out.

I recommend one huge orange at all times for when he sneaks a shot in anyway, as with capped resist you MIGHT survive one or two shots. Have two or three huge greens in case.

Tactics are simple: Eat purps to hit 80+ def, go in FAST. Stay at melee and spam parry as fast as it will go. If you are not VERY good at acc, have and eat as many huge yellows as it takes to hit him. With a scrapper I never worry about fancy crap like pulling him to corners, the flyer respawn is the least of your worries.

Once the red tower goes down, it becomes merely insane, not suicidal, so in theory with a strong team, you might be able to ride him out with just inspirations.

As a note, I've tanked him by accident with my claws/inv more than once, so I know it can be done, but those times I had an emp propping me up.

Quick, drink something cold!


Great name!


Claws/electric is a terrific combo, seriously, but it's not supremely durable. It makes up for that with frankly insane damage, and the upcoming alpha slot is going to be very kind to it. Stick with it, you may be surprised.