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Elec Armor's a bit odd... it's kind of an in-between between sets with knockback protection and sets without. Sets with toggle or click KB protection get 10,000% knockback resistance on top of their 10 points of knockback protection, which means that aside from unresisted knockback (Rikti UXB explosions and one of the Warburg nukes are the only such powers in the game, I think) you will never get KB'd as long as you have the power active. In addition, the knockback protection comes in the same power as the rest of the set's status protection. Elec's knockback and immobilize protection comes in a separate power than its other status protection, but it's always on. As a tradeoff, Grounded gives you about 15 points of knockback protection, but no knockback resistance, and only works when you're on the ground (the immob protection is always on). While this is fine for normal PvE as many players don't move during combat let alone jump, it can be annoying for jumpy players. As long as you stay on the ground, though, the number of NPC-used powers that can KB you through Grounded can probably be counted on one hand.

Personally, I don't have a problem with the KB hole in Fire and Dark (Elec if you PvP or do Hami raids; and why does everyone always forget Ninjitsu when they talk about sets without KB protection?), as it's very easily countered in five ways:

1. Team with a Kin that has Increase Density (9 points of protection for 60 seconds)
2. Bring along Break Frees (5 points of protection for 30 seconds)
3. Get Acrobatics (9 points of protection, enhanceable to 11, for as long as you have endurance to run it)
4. IOs - Steadfast and Karma give 4 points of protection each for one slot and only cost a few million inf (your 50 should have this lying around as pocket change, buy one and give it to the lowbie); Kinetic Crash gives 3 points of protection for 4 slots in any knockback power and is incredibly cheap if you're patient (again with the 50 if you're not); Blessing of the Zephyr gives 4 points of protection for one slot but is generally not worthwhile in PvE because of its cost; some PvP IO sets give 3 points of protection for a certain number of slots (3 or 4, generally) but they are prohibitively expensive
5. Base empowerment buff - 10 points of protection for one hour, for the cost of the salvage required to craft it

For probably 90% of PvE, 3 or 4 points will get you by just fine. If you find yourself lead alpha taker on teams fighting mobs such as Council, you might want 8-12. Things like Hami raids are going to want 13+, and so on. 13+ points (Acro and an IO, basically) will stop every NPC power but a handful. For those who don't want to spend inf on the IOs or don't want to craft the buff every hour, or don't have a Kin friend, why not just take Acro? There are very few builds in this game that don't have room for an extra power pick, SJ is possibly the best travel power in the game in terms of speed and maneuverability, and Combat Jumping provides the best level of in-combat movement, not to mention extra immobilize protection.

There hasn't really been lots of active PvP in this game since before Issue 13, though both Freedom and Virtue were at least somewhat busy until recently. We've had free server transfers for the better part of a month now, so much of the remaining PvP population has migrated to Freedom.

Think I hit Jaws for about 300 damage on the initial tick (this is before the DoTs, not counting procs, not in Scourge range) on a debuffed squishy. Of course that's not the norm but it's kind of sad when a patron attack does more damage than pretty much your entire primary.

There is always the ignore button you know, though Barrier is generally funny and intelligent in-game.

Oh and on topic

If I had a dime for every time Milan and Poned transferred characters to Justice and got beat, I'd have one dime.

*shrug*

We're not the ones backing someone who claims an flying TPing AR/Dev Blaster can be competitive (and then saying "oh but I don't actually play one of those"). No one here's been whining, no one here's been cut-throat except for maybe a few players who seem to have it out for each other (that happens, y'know). As far as I can tell, this thread has been Dahjee coming in and saying "PvP is bad because you are all closed-minded, and you should all play this way," when "this way" has been tried and doesn't work well, at all. Maturity only goes so far in dealing with stupid people. If you can't understand that I'm sorry. Quite honestly I don't care about your opinion of me, nor anyone else's, so if you're trying to make me feel bad by insulting me, you should probably find a better use of your time (like coming up with alternative strategies that might actually work instead of theorycrafting when everyone else with experience is telling you it's been tried and doesn't work).

I was pulling in 300k inf/minute on an SS/Fire with 4 people on the map, duoing with a Fire/Kin at +3x8.

Just by slotting the SR powers, you are also enhancing the DDR they provide. I didn't quite fully slot the passives on my DM/SR, so I'm sitting at about 91-92% DDR, but that's still significantly higher than other defense-based sets are able to achieve on a regular basis.

I have probably a half-dozen characters over on test with capped merits from the I16 closed beta. ((9999/20)*6)= about 3000 random rolls. I'll take a look if I get some spare time, though I should clarify:

I did say rolling a few times on test wouldn't be a good indication of what you'd get, because rolling only a few times when there are so many recipes in the drop pools wouldn't really give you meaningful results. On a very large-scale test such as this, you'd probably get meaningful data.