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Quote:Bit of bad news. Power Boost doesn't boost the recovery from AM. Conserve Power is a useful endurance management tool though.Originally Posted by DrMike2000
A defence armour would stack with the To Hit Debuff in Rad Infection, and make you less likely to be mezzed.
Resistance armours and -Damage from EF dont stack in the same way.
And the AoE stun in Fissure stacking with Flashfire makes Stone Mastery pretty hard to beat from a practical point of view.
I went for Primal Forces Mastery myself, but I was playing a twin duo with no Stamina, so Power Boost was handy for boosting the END Recovery from AM, as well as boosting hold durtaions. I also had Stimulant to make the mez protection in Psionic Mastery redundnant. -
Quote:Well, not a Mass Confusion, but a mini-Mass confusion.. It usually catches 3-5 if the mobs are pretty close. If you find that you exemp below 27 a good deal then it's really a godsend. However...Originally Posted by Fury Flechette
Put Coercive Persuasion into Confuse not mass confusion since the proc can make it into another mass confusion. Use Malaise Illusion into Mass Confusion.
When you've reached perma-AM and perma-hasten levels of recharge, Mass Confusion can be up around every 60 seconds. With MC, recharging that often I prefer the Contagious Confusion as an extra chance to overpower bosses, mezzing the whole group in one go. You'll also have your other AoE controls up more frequently, easing the need to have a mini-Mass Confusion.
I realize it's contrary to what is most often advised, but in my experience it has felt more useful. If you have a respec to burn or can copy over to test, it's at least worth a try to see how you like it. -
Now, gentlemen, what is to be done about this rabble? -
Quote:I shall have the coins soon. Do I need to provide my own sack?Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
Who says we aren't generous?
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Quote:I agree that most sets for holds and slows are pretty unimpressive. Rather than go for the bonuses, you may find more benefit in frankenslotting. So here is my advice in an inelegant list.Originally Posted by Heraclea
Again, thanks for all the help. I revised my intentions for the character and put together a proposed build that takes most of them into account. I did take Glacier, but postponed it; my one previous experience with a high level controller suggested that the recharge on PBAoE holds is such that they get put in a place on the task bar reserved for powers that are saved for special and emergency occasions that never come.
I added some "yeah, right" sets for this, looking chiefly for recharge and recovery; endurance seems a serious issue already. Since I know hold and slow set piece chiefly as ... disappointments ... this can't be that expensive to make, can it?- Block of Ice - Load it up with acc/hold/recharge. The bonuses from Ghost Widow are luckluster at best.
- Arctic Air - I find endurance slotting is a must here. You can get some decent values by using the confuse/end, accuracy/endruance, and triples from different sets. The recharge bonus from Malaise is nice, but not worth gimping this power.
- Snowstorm - IIRC, this power is auto-hit. Also, slow enhancements only affect runspeed. One slot, maybe two, with an endurance reduction is all you need. Again, the bonuses aren't worth the slots.
- Shiver - I tend to slot this with 3 acc/end from slow sets then two generic recharge IO's. Again, the -recharge is the important element here. This slotting lets you toss it out more often and for less endurance.
- Ice Slick - Generally, two recharge IO's will suffice. The third only shaves off about 4 seconds outside of hasten and 2 seconds when its up.
- Jack Frost - drop the Acc/Dam/Recharge from Expedient Reenforcement, regen bonuses aren't so great with controller level hp. You can use the slot somewhere else.
- Sleet - I tend to balance out the recharge, defense debuff, and endurance cost of this power by mixing it up. It's a great place for the Achilles' Heel proc, though it is expensive.
- Heat Loss - You can drop a slot by using acc/recharge from Performance Shifter rather than two generic IO's.
- Arctic Fog - Slot for Defense rather than resistance. The positional defense will be useful in more cases than resistance to fire, cold, and energy.
Finally, we get to the epics. I'm going on the assumption that you were lured to the Primal Forces Mastery, but the idea of Powerboosted shields and slows. Unfortunately, the shields including Arctic Fog won't be affected by it. It also doesn't boost -recharge, the part of slow powers that actually mitigates damage. I recommend this guide for getting a feel of what it affects. After that you may decide on a different epic. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Fusion_7
Unlike my ill/rad Controllers Dark Servant, it does seem they will follow you and not get stuck in the bathroom,..hehe.I read it the same way for a second, completely missing mention that Fusion had a dark corrupter.Quote:Originally Posted by spiritfox
How stoned are you right now, local?
I like Blood Mandate, especially if working for ranged/aoe softcaps. If you're shooting for smashing/lethal Sovereign Right can toss in about 3% there. -
Are they reserved for the 2 billion mark? Is 1 billion the cup of tea mark? I'm approaching the latter and need to know the proper etiquette.
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Quote:I'm currently munching though my 95th level as a troller with forcefields; I too have fairly strong opinions on the topic.Originally Posted by Fulmens
I hate having FF'ers who don't take the ally shields on my team. So you wouldn't make MY cut because every time I got hit, EVERY time, I'd be like "Wow. This could have been avoided."
I have 135+ levels of Force Field defenders. I have fairly strong opinions on the topic.
I think it's been demonstrated pretty well by PK and magicj that forcefields can be much more than a buff set. I had read through their guides as well as Fulmens before finding a playstyle with forcefields that I enjoy. I believe my build would fall in line with what magicj dubbed the wartroller. It won't do what you expect it to do on teams, but it will often do things that you don't expect as well.
I credit magicj with thinking outside the box. It's something I wish more people would do and it's something that I think would be more possible if we did have access to pools at level one. -
Quote:So my plant/ff with softcapped lethal/smashing and ranged/aoe wouldn't make the cut? Oh well, skipping the ally shields probably would have meant I didn't make the cut anyway...Originally Posted by je_saist
As of now, if I ever see anybody with more pool powers than their primary or secondary powers, I know automatically to one-star them and never work with that player.
As for the power pools, it is a bit of a safety net that we can't access them right away. Now, not everyone needs that net, but it's safe to say that we all needed it at one point. Given the leveling speed these days, I'm not sure hitting 24 and completing a respec implies enough knowledge to take that net away.
Still, it would be nice to skip that god awful entangling arrow. -
Quote:I'm guessing you've proc'ed out AA and CC for damage, but what's your epic? I'd imagine Fireball would probably be the best to help add some extra oompf and you can easily be in melee range to use Consume to help manage running AA and CC. You could also proc World of Confusion with 4 or 5 damage procs if you take the Psi pool, but the radius of WoC is pitifully small.Originally Posted by -EVIL MONKEY-
What do you guys think about an ice/rad. I had reactivated about a month ago and forgot i had a 45 ice/rad. I got him to 50 and he is great, i got him a nice build that seems to be working very well. I'm just a little curious to find ways to make him do more damage, he is pretty good right now, I can farm like my firekin can but just less damage. I have seen an ice/rad do more damage then a firekin but he has quit and I cant ask him now, so anyone got any advice?
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Quote:Until you face something with defense debuffs. Because as controllers, we have no defense debuff resistance, enemies like the Cimerorans can easily send a softcapped troller into a cascading defense failure.Originally Posted by AWishForWings
Defense caps at 45%, thus leaving a 5% chance for a foe to hit you. Going over 45% is pointless. You should aswell remove a bit of S/L defense and use those slot for something else.
Of course, that's something you take into account when deciding what to farm though. -
Quote:Plant/Rad. Damage and control from seeds, plus an AoE immobilize that out-damages other control sets' immobilizes. Toss in /rad goodness and you're a monster for low-levels.Originally Posted by Random_CLAw
ill/rad or fire/rad Blue side.
Bots/dark traps or /FF Mastermind
Several of the brute builds
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Quote:Well, you're coming with a better attitude than before and that's good. It could still use a little work though. (Maybe use italics instead of font sizes, for subtlety?)Originally Posted by Fire Kin Master
Well im not here to make enemies!!! Im here becasue i thought that i had the Best Fire Kin build but i now see that i did not LOL i do have much to learn...i have another build in the making and i think the cummunity will be quite impressed with it ..and i hope we can all continue to share our knowledge on this topic!
Keep working on your building and reading what others suggest and you may end up with something good. -
If it makes you feel a bit better, I don't know who the heck you are.
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As drunk as any man alive.
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I didn't catch your edit until just now. You're only one IO away from the softcap for smashing/lethal. Replace the Reactive Armor: Resistance (it's already biting deep into diminishing returns) with Steadfast Protection: Resistance/+Def and you're there. It's relatively cheap for the returns your get.
Overall, there are some things I would change. Hasten comes very, very late. I would strongly suggest throwing it in earlier unless you've completely ruled out exemplaring. With FS capping your damage, you could easily slot Fissure with the Stupefy set for a better accuracy bonus and toss an extra slot from Rock Armor into it for the +recharge proc. Siphon Power can be tossed aside once you have FS and you may find Entangle more useful to quickly immobilize a boss or AV. I would also recommend the Placate proc in place of the Sleep from the Fortunata set. You only lose 3 secs of duration, but it makes it easier to shed aggro if things turn ugly.
Personally, I'm a big fan of Earth's Embrace and would probably work that in somewhere too. -
This guide was from I8, but I believe most of the information is accurate: F22Major's Guide to Powerboost.
From the list, I would tentatively say:
Infrigidate - Yes
Benumb - Yes
Sleet - Yes to the -def and slow, no to -resist
Heat Loss - Yes to the end drain and amount returned to the use, no to the +recovery
Smoke - Yes
Flash Arrow - Unsure, as this is unresistable.
Speed Boost - Run speed, yes. + Recovery, no.
Forge - Yes
Heat Exhaustion - Yes to the endurance drain.
Fortitude - yes
Recovery Aura - No
Regen Aura - No
Adrenalin Boost - No
Clear Mind - yes -
What's the status on teaming this week? I was away last weekend, but I understand Virtue was down for a bit. I imagine some folks may be busy with the holidays too, but I'll be around.
Also, I believe the Saturday Hami raid happens around 6 eastern. You may want to consider pushing things back an hour if that's the case. -
Quote:I rp the L-block when I play Tetris.Originally Posted by je_saist
Um. I don't know how to break this to you, but every time you log into the game and you pick a server, YOU HAVE ALREADY BEGUN A ROLE PLAY SESSION. Let me make this as clear as I can. EVERY SINGLE SERVER IS A ROLEPLAYING SERVER:
WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIKE IT YOU ARE A ROLEPLAYER
So please. Knock off the whole lolRP line. If that's how you feel, this is the wrong game for you.
Seriously, this is like saying sitting in the driver's seat make vroom, vroom noises is the equivalent of driving a car. Just because I'm somewhere that an activity occurs does not mean I'm partaking in it. Likewise; if I sit in on my friend's D&D session, eat all the cheese puffs and drink the Mnt Dew (and what's with that new spelling), and talk about the weather; I am still not roleplaying. -
Quote:I concur. There's really nothing to add beyond that because you said it so succinctly.Originally Posted by Tenzhi
I disagree that the main draw is the resolution. I'd say the story is essentially a cat-and-mouse detective tale and, as is often typical, the main draw is the interplay between the detective and the serial killer. Of course, that's also why I lost interest halfway through - the detective left and I didn't like his replacement.
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I went with the conserve power/powerboost route as well. Powerboost turns Hurricane into a very, very mean -tohitdebuff. I also didn't find consume to mesh well with my use of Hurricane.
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I'm thinking the gap between a generic IO'ed ice/kin and a tricked out ice/kin wouldn't be too large. As noted before, kin doesn't need or accept many sets. As for ice, aside from the purple proc in AA, there aren't any sets or unique enhancements I can think of that would make it leaps ahead of where it already is.
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Quote:Oh man, how could I forget that thread? Call Atta cause we have a new king of the trolls!Originally Posted by Fury Flechette
Haha. I posted my build in the other lame thread you started back on November 20th. Or did you forget this? I find it funny you copy most of my slotting (though you copied it badly because you don't understand game mechanics) and accuse me of not understanding how to make a farming fire/kin.
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Quote:I assume you're soft-capping lethal/smashing. Post up your build so we can see what you're working with and I'll see if I can throw in a suggestion or two.Originally Posted by Mini-Kin
Hey, on Justice I had a Fire/Kin/Stone and had him softcapped, i loved that toon, but I didnt have a good Map for him. Im currently working on a Plant/Kin/Stone, but having trouble soft capping WITHOUT going wayyy tooo expensive...Any ideas/Builds?
50's:
Hells Arrow-Arc/MM Blaster
Mini-Kin-Fire/Kin Controller
Furry Swipe-Broadsword/Reg Scrapper
Not So Mini-Shield/SS Tanker
Mini-Heal-Emp/Nrg Defender
Mini's Lightning-Elec/SD Brute
Phoenix's Strength-Fire/SS Tank
Until you get a solid build, I'd suggest the combat armor from the pvp/arena day job accolade. It offers a nice bit of smashing/lethal and energy defense. I'd have to check in game, but I think it's around 12%. -
Quote:It's true of all damage powers when FS is capping your damage. Hot Feet is just very notable as a primary damage source that can also be proc'ed out the wazoo.Originally Posted by Harkness
I've seen this mentioned quite a few times recently, though mostly in reference to Hot Feet.
Is there a good damage-bonus to aim for in a Fire-Kin's attacks before looking at procs?