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off in-game or off in the nvidia control-panel?

... turn your filtering down.

question: Black Scorpion the Villain or Black Scorpion who was tricked into reading Castle's spreadsheets?

so no ribbon melee...

*pouts*

that just requires the poop to woof translator.

*bestows upon Bill the "Quoted by a Red-Name Badge*

Hamidon Goo Cleaning Requirements

• 5,000 Degrees Fahrenheit.

Bladeglass and Razorvine Cleaning requirements

• 4,000 Degrees Fahrenheit

Bedrock and Boulder Cleaning requirements

• 2.9 tons kinetic impact

great... now I have this mental picture of Anti-Matter in a french-maid's outfit taking a feather duster to Jurrasik...

Question: what previous game / power changes have been made that are similar to this situation?

Are you referring to the market merge? Last I checked the developers said they didn't want to merge the markets because it required a load of work on the back-end of the database, and they weren't happy with potential market events. I think the market fears have been justified given the explosive inflation of recipe prices.

Are you referring to the power customization? Last I checked the developers said they didn't have the manpower and resources to reprogram the background processing engine and produce the art resources. When the developers GOT those resources it still took them over two years and the system still doesn't cover all costume possibilities; namely Costume-Overlays such as Granite Armor, Mastermind Pets, and Kheldian Shape Shifting; pool powers; epic pool powers; and patron pool powers.

Are you referring to Enhancement Diversification? That doesn't hold up either. The original enhancement design that went into the game gave some certain power combinations over-whelming advantages and made all but a select few enhancement types worthless. Pre-ED was simply bad-game design

Are you referring to the Global Defense Nerf?

Thing is, the only situation I can come up with that even remotely fits a mega-change to how the game works / doesn't work situation presented in this thread is the PvP-rebalance from Issue 13. I think PvP's failure to draw any kind of player-base for over 3 years (2005-2008) pretty much proved that PvP couldn't use the same basis as the PvE game and draw any kind of paying player-base. The vocal PvP contingent doesn't like it, but F.Grubb and the other developers behind him took PvP play in the right direction with the changes. Note: right direction does not equal where it should wind up, or what it should be.

Now, given that the tech is now in the game to separate the PvP and PvE powers, trying to use the PvP changes from I13 as justification for anything else that occurs in the game goes beyond stupid to plain asinine.


I have to echo other players in this thread with my own thoughts:

If you don't like how a buff / debuff set plays, don't play it.

One of the problems I have with suggestions to change how buffs / debuffs work, or for most game mechanic changes for that matter, is that most of the suggestions try to revamp the game's mechanical system from the ground up largely resemble other games that just hit the market. I find it interesting that this thread was started right around DCUO wrapping up, and that some of the suggestions to deal with buff / debuffs seem to be based on what DCUO did.

Over the past 7 years CoH has basically made a name for itself by not doing what the other MMO's do. CoH isn't known for doing cliche of the month. CoH isn't known for revamp at the drop of a new title.

I really hate to bang on it, but a lot of new MMO players these days have never heard of, much less played, Verant / SOE Planetside. Under SOE the development team tasked to Planetside made the mistake of trying to implement what was popular in top selling third-person and first-person shooters. The result was a complete disaster. SOE Planetside bled subscribers as the player-base evaporated to franchises like Call of Duty, Unreal Tournament, Battlefield, Medal of Honor, and Enemy Territory. Players weren't going to hang around and pay SOE for gaming experiences that they could get in other games.

CoH is unique in how it, as a game, handles the concept of buffs and debuffs within the game world. Changing that system on an entire basis? Modeling it after what another game does? That's just going to hurt CoH as a game.

Now, I won't argue that some individual powers probably need to be re-adjusted. The really-low effect time on Increase Density for example.

However, I am also able to step back and recognize that there is a deliberate design trade-off in how those buff powers operate. A Defender or Corruptor who actively buffs team-mates and debuffs enemies will have less time to use their own attacks. A mastermind who actively buffs team-mates, bots, and debuffs enemies will have less time to micro-manage their bots. A controller who actively buffs team-mates, pets, and debuffs enemies will have less time to control a mob.

That is intentional.

Sometimes, and I realize this might be a hard concept to grasp, the cake is really a lie. You just can't have it all. There is a price to be paid. There is a trade-off. There are choices.

The impression I get from players that want to revamp the buff / debuff classes to be less intrusive is that those players want to have it all. They want to buff / debuff AND attack. They want to buff / defuff AND control. They want to buff / debuff AND Micromanage their personal army.

I seriously doubt that the developers are ever going to seriously consider a system or revamp that let's players have it all and do it all.

I'd highly suggest you look up the terms:

• Nvidia
• Overheating
• Class-action
• Lawsuit
• Bumpgate
• Geforce
  
• EXPLODING
• LAPTOPS

Nvidia is, to use the colloquialism, in deep-doo-doo with ODM's, OEM's, and consumers over a string of exploding laptops due to Nvidia lying about the actual thermal properties of their chips.

And you want to overclock a chipset known to be in exploding laptops.

... That's not a smart idea.

Most of the Kin-Melee debuffs last for about 5~7 seconds on a scrapper. So you'll likely only be able to layer two to three debuffs consistently. Of the Kin Melee attacks most have a debuff of 5.63% damage. Burst has -11.25% damage debuff. Repulsing Torrent has no debuff attached.

Ergo, you'll be bouncing around 11%~18% sustained damage debuff on a single target.

Assuming that Damage and Resistance are different sides of the same coin, this would give kinetic melee about the same incoming damage mitigation as the Tough pool power does against smashing / lethal damage.

Is it noticeable?

Yes, it can make a large difference in survivability.

*calls up a Necromancer Mastermind and has the Necro's minions ask*

depends on how many debuffs are stacked by enemies.

Yes, the Rectified Reticule will help against one or two enemy debuffs, but you'll also have to counter the to-hit and accuracy debuffs. Coupling up Rectified Reticule +Perception, Kismet +To-Hit, and Leadership: Tactics will give you an advantage in most casual circumstances. If that isn't doing it, look into taking Focused Accuracy if your AT has it. Sure, it's been neutered from it's original intent, but it'll protect against the to-hit and perception debuffs.

So far Nelson (I believe responsible for Ninja Run), David (Nobel Savage), nor any of the other art / animation guys have said anything to indicate their opinion on this matter differs from that of C.Bruce.

Ding! Cla! Ri! Ty!