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Originally Posted by elvnsword09

I think that the amount of time it would take a community rep (whose job it is to give us the news) to let us know what the problem is, would definitely give us a lot of peace of mind in knowing it was a necessary pull. It doesn't even have to be a very descriptive description. I would settle for simple to understand basic descriptions of problems.

Plus if they told us what the problem was now, after the server was down, there would no risk of us using an exploit they were patching or what-not is there..

It just shows a lack of respect for the paying customer that the servers get brought down during the 2xp weekend with No Explanation. "Maintenance" is not an explanation. That happens every week during the early morning hours, not during prime play hours during an event! Add to it, that this is an even that has been rescheduled already due to Maintenance, and you get a fan base that is fairly upset, and I am not the only one. The whole team I was on is very upset. We were all actively cursing when the red-letter announcement came over the chat window.
Please sate our desire for an event to be un-marred by reschedules and maintenance.

Originally Posted by dougnukem

What if she is laying on a bed of bacon? Would that help some?

Originally Posted by DarkBlaster_NA

I'll call your double groin kicks and raise you a sleepover with Rosie O'Donnell

Originally Posted by TamakiRevolution

I can't play for an hour?!?!

My list of demands:

10,000 Paragon points on live
You admit Staff Melee is real and give me early access to it
Revamp Luddites
Tell me what the next Incarnate slots do


If you don't fulfill my demands, then this down time is a slap in the face.

Originally Posted by dougnukem

I'm going to go with a different response here:

Thanks for realizing a potential problem with this, and taking the time to fix it instead of having to shut servers down over the weekend, and try to rush to fix the problem. I commend you for this.

Originally Posted by TheBruteSquad

I think the reasoning would be it's better for Rain of Fire to apply a DoT to one guy every 10 seconds than continue to let caltrops or freezing rain do more damage than a blaster's T9 nuke.

Originally Posted by Kurrent

So a same-level sideways conversion costs 150 threads?

Really? REALLY?

That's... a rather steep conversion cost. In fact, it seems almost laughable, if not insulting, if that's supposed to be a serious attempt to provide a "reasonable" cost for converting one UR component to another.

Of course, we also still have the absurd INF costs for the high-end components, which effectively price the 4th Tier components out of reach of I'd guess 90% of the casual players and probably half of the hardcore players.

I know that I'm not the only one who's pointed out repeatedly that these prices are really only feasible for farmers. In fact, the complaints about the INF costs have been second only to complaints about the rewards drops. So why don't we even get an acknowledgement that anyone has so much as heard this?


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Originally Posted by Blue Rabbit

You've captured my feelings exactly. People were complaining about grind before? Boy oh boy oh boy!

Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight

Just in case you weren't aware, but you're not required to use PvP IOs. I know, I know, that's a pretty outrageous comment, but it's the truth!



Also, if you're going to complain about them, you should also complain about Purples, as well as the actual freaking drop rate of PvP IOs. ATM, it's probably easier to get them via A-Merits than PvP.

Originally Posted by NordBlast

And to make things even worse, devs changed 2nd mission to require escorting Amy to the exit

Originally Posted by Vanden

Then why do I get the best rewards on my 50 by steamrolling TFs full of -1s with little-to-no risk?

tl;dr: Enemies over 50 should drop more stuff the more levels they are over 50.

Originally Posted by Dispari

Defenders can solo fine, just not at the speed and ease of a Scrapper. And if you want a reason, it's because Scrappers don't have Fulcrum Shift, Dispersion Bubble, and Fortitude. Some classes are built for soloing, and some for teaming. They fill different roles and perform in some areas better than others. That's basically the definition of a class system.

What you're asking for is for Defenders (and other non-melee ATs) to be tankmages who can solo like a Scrapper AND buff teams in ways that Scrappers can only dream of. Failing that, you want to nerf Scrappers out of spite.

Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint

So, screw those that want to solo on scraps? Yeah, dumb idea. And as for you saying they aren't and should never be tanks, I have a kat/sr that would love to debate with you about that since he has tanked many an ITF and other TF's.

Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect

Yes, brilliant idea. Make scrappers all but impossible to play without having an Empath in their back pocket all the time.

And no, support characters are NOT impossible to play without an Empath, myself and several thousand other people prove that on a daily basis.

If you strip away mez protection from scrappers, you will be relegating them to the "why would anyone play this AT?" category. Most have no way to reliably mez an opponent first, and even the ones who DO must be in melee range before they can. How exactly is that Broadsword/Shield/Body scrapper going to stop an opponent from mezzing them? Especially if it is a non-positional mez like Carnies and Rikti will throw at you.

It sounds very much like you don't play scrappers. If you do play them, try this: Log your scrapper in and run a Malta or Carnies mission with your mez protection turned off and see how long you live. Even if you're playing one of the sets with a mez in the primary, you still have to get into melee range first.

I have said it, and others have said it. Melee characters get mez protection because they have zero inherent ability to pre-empt a mezzing attack at range, and since they are forced into melee range, they will be getting hit with both melee and ranged mezzes. Support characters do not get mez protection because the majority of them do have the ability to pre-empt them in either their primary or secondary. Also, a support character can avoid melee mezzes completely and remain combat effective.

Granted, support ATs do not have 100% reliable mitigation, but if you slot some accuracy, your mitigation should be at 95% against LTs and lower. And yes, I know there are enemies above LT, but you can choose to not face bosses while solo, which is where the majority of the complaints seem to be coming from.

Complaints about fighting bosses with mez powers on support ATs was addressed when they gave us the ability to downgrade them to LTs. And for the record, yes, a Freak Tank or Fake Nemesis that is downgraded to an LT DOES count towards the badges, so getting the badges you need to kill bosses for is no excuse. I frequently downgrade bosses to LTs on my support characters, because A) If they have mez powers I can mez them first, and B) They die faster so I don't have to spend so long hitting one dude.

You don't have to fight those mezzing bosses while solo, and on a team they shouldn't be a problem.

How exactly is stripping the mez protection from scrappers addressing your problem at all? It really doesn't, because scrappers need it to function properly, and support ATs have been getting along just fine for 6+ years without it. You're also failing to take into account the likelyhood that if support ATs are given passive mez protection, the amount of mez being thrown around in the game will increase dramatically, and no one wants that, not even me.

Originally Posted by Rajani Isa

yes, because with things like Choking Cloud (Rad) or Opressive Gloom (Dark Armor) on NPCs, Scrappers can get into and stay in melee without status protection just fine... X.X

Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint

So... DON'T USE IT. Or put it in a toggle. The devs will not change it just because you don't like it.

Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect

See, here you go again calling me a hypocrite.

I have been saying from the beginning of this thread that support ATs are just fine the way they are, not because I feel they should be dependent on a melee AT, but because I have not seen anything to suggest that they actually ARE dependent on a melee AT.

If support ATs were TRULY dependent on melee ATs to survive, it would be flat out impossible to solo one. It is not. Myself, and thousands of other players solo them all the time. If they were completely dependent on melee ATs, as you assert they are, none of us would be able to do that.

Sure, some melee characters can solo on x8, but not every single one with any build. A smaller number of them can solo AVs.

On the reverse side, a number of support ATs can solo AVs as well, many of them can do it even faster than any melee AT. Yes, it requires an expensive build to do, but you don't really believe melee ATs are doing it on SOs, do you?

Additionally, some support ATs can solo Giant Monsters, due to the amount of debuffs a lot of them are packing. I have YET to see a melee character of any AT at all that can make the same verifiable claim.

Do you know WHY Generic Scrapper solos better than Generic Defender? I do, it's because Generic Defender brings more to a team on SOs than Generic Scrapper ever will, even with the most expensive build possible. You want Generic Defender to solo better? You should be campaigning to have Generic Scrapper become more useful to a team. Because it isn't fair to ask for better soloing for support ATs, while they retain the same amount of team support. If support should solo better, melee should bring more to a team.

A team comprised of Defenders, Controllers and Blasters has no need or use for a Tank or Scrapper, and in fact will make either one pretty much redundant. I speak from experience on this. I was the sole melee AT on a team with exactly that composition, and I have never felt more useless on a team before or since. The Controllers locked the spawn down, and the Defender buffed Blasters melted it before I even got close enough to attack ONCE, let alone actually kill something.

So, melee ATs get more ability to solo because the more support ATs you add to a team, the more useless melee gets.

Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect

The problem with ally buffs not being usable on yourself isn't with the power itself, it's because you can't target yourself. If you could target yourself, all those buffs probably would be usable on you.

Problem there is, if we could do that things like Empathy and Thermal would quickly get overpowered. 100% recharge boost, more regeneration than a target capped Willpower, stackable mez protection, and perma Fortitude would make an Empathy defender one of the most powerful characters in the game.

If they gave us that, expect those buffs to get the crap nerfed out of them in trade. Downside to that is an Empathy character would get a whole lot less useful to a team because their buffs aren't as potent anymore.

All those Ally Only buffs are only as powerful as they are because you can't use them on yourself.

Originally Posted by ChaosAngelGeno

And this is why powers like Increase Density, Thaw, and Clarity exist. I have never seen an Empath or /Pain Domination not take Clear Mind or Enforced Morale, but have seen many /Kinetics, /Thermals, and /Sonics pass on taking their Mez Resist granting powers, mostly at lower levels. Hopefully i19 might help remedy that. USE EM!

Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect

It DOES provide a shortening of the duration of effects. When you have it slotted, any status effect that hits you will be shortened by 7.5%.

10% of 12 seconds is 1.2 seconds, so 7.5% is less than that. It IS shortening the duration, but you probably aren't noticing it.

It does not claim to do anything that it doesn't do, thus there is no bait and switch involved at all.

If you slotted it expecting to be protected from mez effects, or have them reduced by a significant amount, the problem is that you failed to understand the durations involved, rather than a problem inherent within the IO itself.

Most people DON'T slot it because they understand that it's effectiveness is minimal at best. Chalk it up to a lesson learned and don't slot it in the future.

If every character in the game had reliable mez protection, a lot of the enemies that are challenging would be pushovers. And that probably isn't a good thing for the game.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville

Next you're going to say that my Team: Paragon t-shirt is a fake. What about my autographed Matt Miller bobblehead, huh? Do *you* have one of those? I didn't think so.

You're just lucky I don't have Castle smite you. Don't think he won't do it, either. Two years ago I had a scuffle with a poster named PeterV and I asked Castle to smite him. If it wasn't for the fact his aim was really off that week... but I digress.

Originally Posted by Aura_Familia

Seeing as how marketing would probably string her up by her coat tails if she revealed any new features they are working on for future issues, that interview surprised anyone.?

Really?

Have you not been paying attention to the marketing style of NCSoft/PS?

They sure as hell would not reveal anything in an interview till it's good and near ready to be put into closed beta.

EDIT: Some of the people on these forums are acting like this is their first time reading or posting on these forums. Sheesh.

Originally Posted by Fiery-Enforcer

Eh, I think the rewards are fine now. I don't think they calculate start up time in their formula to decide the reward amount. Personally, I haven't been on a CoP that took longer than 30 minutes.