graystar_blaster

Originally Posted by Xanatos

What's the deal with these zones. If I defeat someone there am I able to get PVP drops? Are they lower level?

Since the drops were added I've only managed to get any in Recluse's Victory.

Originally Posted by Wuigly Squigly

Yea the "only one shot to get the 1/100 chance that a recipe will actually drop every 5 mins" rep timer thing is just lame.

If they want to prevent farming and wish to make people actually pvp instead of just farm they might want to actually put some effort into the pvpo drop system. And defenitely take a look at the current pvp version 2.0 of course, but thats a discussion for another time.

Perhaps have the system record how long a fight is from first blow to finish, how many powers were used, amount of movement, how little insps/temps or how many were used and or some measure of how hard both combatants faught in a fight, etc. Then have some pvp credit or merits of some kind award based off that, so theres more incentive for active pvp. The more effort put in the sooner you get your reward.

Then you could just get a pvp recipe with credit/merits you've earned through fighting, be less farmeable and the market supply wouldnt suck as much as it does now.

Originally Posted by Not_Epsilon

This is my thread, and I am evicting all of you except for tam. That bish is too crazy for me to even touch.

Originally Posted by Catharctic

I'm just tired of having to pull out my decoder ring for all of his posts.

Originally Posted by Coolbreese

Mutwo?

Originally Posted by Thunderforce

So I hit 50 for the first time last night. I've been playing since early 2005, but sadly there is no "services to altoholism" badge.

I was taken with the elegance of it; I was doing the last mission of "Upon the Psychic Plane", the last arc I hadn't finished, and exited the mission still 49th. Phoned it in, got the arc reward, and *pow*.

Now I can get down to some serious badging!

However, the question is this. I've been carefully bringing all my IOs up to 50th, but it struck me I'm likely to spend much of the rest of my time on this toon exemplared - I've no interest in grinding the ITF for purples until I have to pay someone to come by and dust me. Given the shallowness of the IO effectiveness curve, should I actually be targetting 40 or so (more, cheaper, sets available at 40, for one thing) to maintain more set bonuses when exemplared? I'm mostly Frankenslotted anyway, to be fair, which helps when exemplaring.

I know this is a bit of an "it depends" question but I'd still like to hear what people think.

Originally Posted by Sardan

That's just utterly wrong. It's entirely possible to understand and even predict how a game economy operates under various conditions without knowing the actual numbers. In fact, the entire academic discipline of economics has to cope with this constantly. That's why you see things like GDP numbers for a given year being adjusted even years after the fact. I'll agree that no player has a perfect understanding of the game economy, but that's not necessary in order to understand underlying forces that can drive trends.

There's an amusing sex advice columnist/podcaster named Dan Savage. He has spoken or corresponded with thousands of people seeking his advice over the years. He made the observation that inevitably when someone seeks his advice and says "Oh Dan, I date person after person year after year, and every single one is a complete jerk! They're all awful, every one!" that the common denominator there is the person complaining. So if every thread you are involved in degenerates into "the usual cluster @#$!", guess what? It's YOU THAT CAUSES IT. These forums are full of the most helpful and polite gamers around. If you look at your threads and the threads of a guy like Fire Kin Master (take solace that you don't come close to his nuttiness), you'll see people first trying to help, then becoming annoyed when rationality and decorum are thrown out the window.

I can guarantee some folks have learned things from this thread, but apparently you're not included in their number.

Oh look: I just facepalmed myself so hard I knocked my cerebral cortex out of my cranium!

It's funny that if that's what you were trying to find out, that the first time you mention it is now.

As has been explained many times in this thread, WE ALL UNDERSTAND where influence enters the economy.

I'll ignore explaining yet again the whole "inf generation vs inf sink" stuff, since you've been immune to that the last 10 times it was explained in this thread. Instead let's focus on the difference between inf generation and inf accumulation.

The total market for purples in this game is quite small compared to the tens of thousands of people still actively playing. Thus small changes in demand get reflected in the price of purples, but so what? It's like observing that a collector Ferrari went for a record price and going "why are all car buyers suddenly so rich?" Plus, prices for rare goods can spike regardless of whether overall money supply is growing or shrinking. All it takes is a small number of individuals who have been successful at accumulating wealth who are chasing after rare goods.

Let's run a small thought experiment: let's say that 10K players log in each day on average. And let's say that because that's a mix of all level ranges, that they generate about a mil of brand new inf each on average. That's 10 billion inf a day entering the game economy that didn't exist before. Some people are very good at accumulating that new wealth, and they in turn end up buying rare goods like purples.

Honestly, I don't know why this is so hard for you to grasp.

Originally Posted by Frogfather

Well, when a mommy Influ and a daddy Infamy really love each other, they share a special hug. Only married Influ and Infamy should share this hug, but sometimes dirty influ trollops and Infamy scoundrels do too and thats okay for them, but not for you. Anyhow, so after this special hug they wait 9 months and poof...more moola.

Originally Posted by Neuronia

You can generate 'new' inf in these fashions:

-Inf from defeats.
-Inf from mission completion.
-Inf from sales to vendors.
-Defeating players in PvP activities (paltry amounts, but you still get inf)
-Outside donations such as costume contests.

If your character does ONLY this from 1-50 you should come up with close to two to five million influence. Say Joe Blaster doesn't give a petunia about the Market and just vendors EVERYTHING. Vendor 5 Accuracy/Damage IOs (50) will give you 500,000 influence. Your mission will give you maybe 300,000 - 500,000 as well. You get 5 commons (5 x 250) one rare (5,000) and an uncommon (1,000).

There's a million or so right off. Once you have level 50 SOs slotted (that will cost you what, 4-5,000,000) you're in the clear correct? So...if you play the game you will continue to generate new influence. Forever.

It's like the old days before IOs. My bubbler would just run missions and get inf. Then she'd run Hami raids and people would give me 20 million for a Nucleolus, say. I'd pass that inf to alts for SOs and farm Dreck to get more inf.

Joe Blaster doesn't need purples or even IO sets to defeat the Guides, Tac Ops Commanders and so on. See? So you just vendor your stuff...if you play just an hour a night and make a million, after a month you'll have 30 million?