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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect

Someone posted that they have the name 'Goldie Glocks', thought that one was pretty clever.

I have one named ".40 Caliber Cure" on Pinnacle.

Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect

Fly and teleport are the only powers that will get you from the Talos gate to the Portal Corp building in Peregrine in perfect safety. If you don't believe me, try it with any of the other ones at level 14. Super Speed's stealth component isn't even that reliable when the mobs in the zone are +36 to you, especially since there are snipers all over the rooftops in PI that can see right through it.

Teleport costs a metric butt-ton of end to use, and fly is slow.

The reason for that is they are the safest possible travel powers to use.

It wouldn't be fair if Fly was faster than a travel power that puts you in way more danger.

Originally Posted by Mr. DJ

I don't think eryq was being serious

Originally Posted by Nihilii

Quoting myself, because damn, people who quote other people and manage to not EVEN READ THE QUOTE THEY'RE REPLYING TO still annoy me.

In the chances that you are actually that dumb and not just trolling, I'll explain : FSC is in an attack powerset. SC is in a defense powerset. You can combine FSC and SC.

Also : HAY GUYZ blaster nukes suxxxx because neutrino bolt does more DPS lololol

Get. Real.

Or keep whining, your choice. I'll keep obliterating everything in my path before being IOed out on my Shielders - *obligatory edit, because someone is bound to (pretend to) misread that* or before using any IO at all.

Originally Posted by Nihilii

Anyone who believes SC is balanced with SOs hasn't done the research and/or is on crack. Not going to bother posting yet again pages of numbers as it's obvious by now people who still claim SC is balanced don't want to listen.

LR and RoA... No argument here. Long animations and powers being in relatively average powersets, I've never seen a problem with these.

Before anyone tards this up with "omg LR = SC"... SC is a tier 9 attack in a defense powerset. Take Super Strength and replace Hurl with Overload, of course meaning you'd be able to stack it with whatever secondary you'd want ; go ahead, tell me that'd be balanced, because that's, in spirit, what you're saying if you say "if LR is fine, then SC is fine".

Originally Posted by Umbral

Considering you thought that looked like gibberish rather than a correction of your incorrect information, I'm going to have to go with "you have no idea what's going on".



Well, it would probably help. I mean, you could always look at the in-game numbers or other sources of information and see if/when they sync with the existing information so as to make your information seem correct.



1. You're talking about being surrounded in a farm. That's not really the "normal" gameplay that this game is balanced around.

2. I never said anything about it being impossible to hit more than 2 targets. I said that you can get 3 on occasion. The only way to actually get to the cap and treat GD as a "real" AoE is to stack the enemies up (which is possible, if difficult). The AoE capability is a secondary benefit of an AoE power, which is why it doesn't follow the AoE damage formula.

3. If you can really find a pick of you hitting 10 targets with a single application of Golden Dragonfly, feel free. I'm game for seeing that. I'll still say that you can't compare them on the same level because the amount of target manipulation required to get 10 targets into the tiny area of GD is almost infinitely more than is required for FSC and Shield Charge. You can't simply assume that every attack on the planet that can hit multiple targets will have saturated targets, especially when it's literally impossible to fit that many targets in the area of effect without a bug.

Originally Posted by Umbral

Welcome to this episode of Umbral's "Get Your Information Correct, Please!"



Mids' doesn't handle rolling DoTs correctly. FSC really has a base damage of 121.44.

Mids' also doesn't have the proper damage on Shield Charge because it wasn't increased to account for the AT mods change. SC really has a base damage of 200.2 damage.



Golden Dragonfly deals 164 base damage in a 10' long, 20' arc. You can get 2, at most 3, target with a single application of GD and it requires a decent bit of placement. The hard cap on the number of targets is 10, but it's literally impossible to fit that many targets into the area of the effect so that number is pretty useless.

FSC, SC, and LR are all PbAoEs with 10' and 20' radii respectively. FSC can easily target all 10 targets for its target cap and SC and LR can easily target all 16 of their targets.



Don't attempt to compare a power that has a tiny bit of AoE capability as a tangential asset with powers that are legitimately AoE powers. You're comparing apples to oranges in an attempt to make the question of balance irrelevant. Welcome to the required Straw Man facepalm. If you're going to do it the same way next time, at least try to make it a bit harder to tell along with actually getting the numbers right. Maybe use Shadow Maul instead of Golden Dragonfly, because at least Shadow Maul is intended to hit multiple targets.

Originally Posted by Katten

Are you out of your mind? FA, no, not necessarily over powered. But holy cow yes, RoA is overpowered, Shield Charge is Overpowered, and Lightning Rod is over powered.

What's in common with all of these? They're all new.

I think the dev's wouldn't allow themselves to add another ridiculously overpowered attack in to the game, as bad as that makes it look when there are now better choices.

I consider this about equal with full auto, PBAoE is more worthwhile than FA's cone in my mind when teaming. Being centered in the spawn is not very dangerous due to teammates presence, and the greater target cap makes up for the rest of the difference.
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Yes, I've personally used every crashless nuke extensively, it's not just heresay.
However, that said, it should probably have at least FA's recharge, and the other problems still need addressing.

Originally Posted by UnicyclePeon

Your preferences seem all over the place. You could click the link in my signature and go to a page that will generate random ATs / Builds to play.

That said, I think a Plant/Energy Domiantor would be fun, or if you prefer a bit more AOE, a Plant/Ice dominator.

Fire/Storm is a great Controller, but Plant/Storm is pretty awesome too for soloing and teaming. I've got a Thugs/Storm Mastermind that is awesome, and several Storm Defenders. Storm/Psy is my favorite, but Storm/Sonic has lots of solo ability and Storm/Energy has some crazy fun knockback.

Lewis

Originally Posted by Nethergoat

My first 50 got there on SO power as well.
And the *only* reason I upgraded some of my older characters to generics was because I hate the way SOs penalize you for leveling and need replacing every so often.

I have several characters who 'get by' just fine with generics and a -KB IO (because I hate getting knocked back =P).



Some folk like to pretend that you can only get good drops by farming, which is patent nonsense. Farming is more efficient at generating drops than 'regular' gameplay, but you'll get good drops regardless.

When I had more play time my fire/rad got a lot of great drops from farming, but he also got his share of great drops running missions with teams (he got lots and lots and LOTS of team invites, which I was occasionally able to accept).

Originally Posted by Blue_Fenix

QR

Thanks for all the suggestions so far.

The only ones that are sort of standing out in my mind so far are Fire/Storm troller (I've wanted to do storm for a long time, never had a stormie of any type that really got anywhere though), Fire/Dark Corr, and Fire/Traps Corr.

In fact, I've wanted to do traps for a while, but never had the right concept or combo for it. What attack sets go best with Corruptor /Traps?

Finally, anyone got any Dominator suggestions? They feel a lot more fun since the damage boost they got in I15, but I haven't found a combo I really like yet.

Originally Posted by Tonality

You aren't going to find a difficulty setting that offers the best xp/time ratio. I'll save you time testing.

Here's some interesting numbers:

Mission at 2/8: Completed in under 10 minutes (thus, 6 runs/hour at 716k inf/minute)
Mission at 3/8: Completed in 15 minutes (4 runs/hour - don't remember this one)
Mission at 4/8: Completed in 25 minutes (2.5 runs/hour at 768k inf/minute)

At those levels, a boss will yield 72k inf at +4 diff and 33 k at +2 diff.
In this case, +2/8 is superior for income with a very, VERY minor drop in inf/minute, though you're killing faster which means more drops.

However...

If you are SKing someone as a 50 and running at 4/8, that lowbie is now getting the highest XP mod, being SK'd at 49 and getting credit for killing +5's. This has the potential to make 4/8 the ideal, but is dependant upon a few things:

1) The level 50's capability to survive
2) The level 50's capability to output tremendous amounts of damage quickly
3) Any external buffs that might help (adding fulcrum shift into the picture makes 4/8 reasonable)

In the end, I'll run 2/8. If I'm in the mood, I'll run 4/8, but you can better believe my elec/sd/blaze isn't going to have more than 2 others on a team. Inspirations are the key to being effective at that level of difficulty, and I need those drops.

Originally Posted by Fulmens

I have a general guide to "Frankenslotting" (IO's the cheap way) in my sig. Basically the idea is that if you look on this page, if it's a yellow gunsight it drops frequently from beating critters. If it's a yellow gunsight and the set has bad set bonuses (like Focused Smite) chances are there will be a lot for sale, and they sell for cheap.

Frankenslotting is good because, to give a simple example, three "Damage/something" IO's gives you the equivalent of two damage SO's, plus two "something else" SO's, in four slots. An Acc/Dam/End gives you half a damage SO, half an acc So and half an end reduction SO in one slot.

One thing you can do on your build is, while you're waiting for the juicy set bonuses, slot the really cheap equivalent. So if you can't afford a Numina's Heal/Rech yet, you throw in a Harmonized Healing Heal/Rech at level 39 or 40. You'll spend maybe a million on it, instead of the 40 to 80 million that the Numina's costs, and it works nearly as well EXCEPT for the set bonuses.