doomrider

Not to say Plant is "better" than dark cause that's sort of a blanket statement, but personally I enjoy Plant because you can get more bang with fewer power choices.

I mean really I'm speaking from a high-end IO build that includes pvp io's so keep that in mind.

I do think dark is a good control set, but to me, it's the damage that comes with plant and lesser need for a fast array of control powers that complements psi so well. I mean psi shockwave benefits from domination so I'm also stunning 1/4 of the mob regularly, even bosses. I personally don't feel the need for more control but YMMV.

This combo works so well, when build right, you can fore go even using Seeds on most spawns and still flatten mobs in quick fashion (well mine is 45 s/l 32.5 e/n/r so It's a bit of an outlier in this case).

If your defense starts to cascade, jump back, (cause I play in melee primarily) chuck seeds at the mob and pop into hibernate.
You'll be laughing maniacally from your cold cocoon while the spawns rip each other apart, all the while your creepers barrage them with thorns and roots.

By the time you've recovered, they're all but dead. errr "arrested"

*Sneaks into base and dumps several black garbage bags full of longbow officer limbs behind your porters*

That'll keep em away, let me know when they start to smell and I'll replace them with some fresh ones. I'll send you a bill for my services at the end of every month.

This. That and I've been busy with my new dom. Anyone wanting to do WS related things or for whatever reason at all can get a hold of me via my handle thats in my sig. I'm still playing on freedom.

And the text I've capitalized and made obnoxious with arrows proves that DP is not an "I Win" button. Rather you just stated so in the sentence following that. Call soloing a gm with said super Arch/MM build luck, call it skill, call it whatever you want, it's still possible so that arguments put to bed, this doesn't invalidate DP nor does it prove its OP. All this proves is that a player with enough time and investment, skill with mid's and maybe a bit of luck pulled this off. SO WHAT. Lets move on, and stop beating the dead horse. DP is fine, lets look at the damn near useless secondaries blasters are plagued with eh?

Not to mention this thread was supposed to be a place for people to share blaster feats wasn't it? Not lets beat the OP into submission until he thinks we're right or we prove his opinion from another thread wrong.

Nor is it simply loldrain psyche I win.

Use of drain psyche on an SO build or even a modest IO build will not be enough on its own to either keep your blaster alive or floor a gm's regen rate consistently to enable said player to defeat the gm. All that's been proven with the absurd amount of influence poured into a build. Yes things like soloing a gm is "possible" but this is a special case and not to be considered a standard nor does it make drain psyche overpowered.

If anything, drain psyche is a good reason for why blaster secondaries need to be brought up to a similar level of usefulness. Maybe not in the same regard as DP but somewhat equally beneficial to someone rolling a blaster. Rather than looking at it like "oh one power is OP", lets look at what the other secondaries really bring to the playstyle of the AT.

Devices: Arguments can be made for the limited utility of a st immob, caltrops or a stealth toggle can bring but my personal opinion is powers such as trip mine don't suite the mechanics of the game. At least not anymore... *looks at 5 second cast time* Then again numerous secondaries have ST immobs. So whats devices really boasting? Nothing that makes me wanna roll one.

Elec Manip: A damage aura with a generous radius that will most likely get your blaster killed should he aggro first, a few decent melee attacks to fit character concept if you like but not necessary or particularly useful. Oh power sink, yes power sink is good but /elec is not the only secondary to have end management tools. A ST hold? Yes decent DoT but not really a game changer.

Energy Manip: Again, optional melee attacks, a sprinkle of KB and stuns in-beaded in said melee attacks and Conserve power (theres that end management i was talking about). Power boost and boost range are the real reasons you'd roll /EM.

Fire Manip: This is probably 1 of 4 secondaries I'd consider to have more useful powers outside the 1 or 2 outliers that other sets seem to have. So it gives you 1. options, and 2. powers worth taking. More aoe? combustion and FSC. CHECK. end management? consume. CHECK. Damage Aura(s)? blazing aura and hot feet. CHECK and CHECK. Oh and who doesn't like the new front loaded burn? All that being said, you can probably get enough AoE out of most of the primaries so I'll chop half this secondary up to concept/personal preference.

Ice Manip: A medium radius debuff aura on a blaster? really? please... Sub par melee attacks, a small ice patch of limited utility, a sub par version of Shiver (only 10 target max last i checked), a ST hold and a near useless melee Mag 2 sleep foot stomp clone only with no damage unlike the tanker version. Oh and a smaller radius. I move to say "buff ice manipulation" and leave DP alone.
Seriously.

Dark Manip: Soul drain on a blaster? OH GAWD. If that's not OP i don't know what is. Nevertheless, I'm a fan. Smite and MG? Finally some melee attacks worth taking. Dark consumption, again more end management and with damage to boot. A short radius damage aura? Well at least skipping this makes room for more powers you might not have room for if you chose another secondary, and dark pit. A mag 2 stun is gonna split people down the middle on whether to take it, but at only a 60 sec recharge and a 20 ft radius, if you have something to stack it with, this is a decent pick. Over all /DM is decent.

and finally Mental Manip: Really what does this bring? a cone, a generous 15 foot PBAOE with moderate damage and drain psyche. Everything else is already provided by other secondaries in a slightly different fashion.

So... basically, EM has boost range and power.
DM has soul drain and some actually worth while melee attacks.
Elec has power sink and some equally hard hiting melee attacks.
Fire has more AoE than you probably need and some end management.

That leaves Ice and Devices damn near the bottom at least IMO. So maybe lets draw attention away from a power that's worth taking and let's bring these sets up to par cause honestly why would you choose either outside of concept?

haterade... love it. Nicely done. Great choice of music too might I add

See but even if you could call that satire, my point was it wasn't funny. I decided to draw attention to it for pure unbridled facepalming. This video screams for some chump to put a "cool story bro" comment next to it. I just couldn't help but notice it was so poorly mashed together with irritating vocals over top. At any rate, it was worth laughing at I suppose.

Neither am I, neither is Mr.Cosby here. We made the same face.

THAT was brilliantly done! Good job dude! There's even a moment at 0:47 when I enter the screen from the right with that ridiculous pose /e bringit. Made me trolololol.

For the same reasons we don't eat cats or dogs .

Whoa, realizing now that my comments pertaining to my disappointment with said purples coming to the market was really out of place for this thread, I appologize to THB. I did not mean to derail this thread, but I suppose I should know better.

Just to clarify a few things:

1. "Hardwork" is probably not the term I should have used. Time invested would have been more accurate. While farming and marketeering are completely viable means of funding character builds, I do very little to zero of either. I don't farm anymore at all and only did for a very very brief time. I also only recently started actively using the market to make a little extra inf. The "hardwork" I was referencing was really just my accumulation of time and influence gained as well as drops that I've gathered from doing regular content solo or teamed with friends over the past 3 years which has funded my ONLY heavily IO'd character, my Warshade. In fact I don't have another alt that has many if any io's.

2. While I don't have a family of my own yet, I also work 40-45+ hours per week. I live in the city, some distance from my extended family of whom I try to see as often as I can as my siblings are starting families of their own. On top of that I have obligations outside of family and work that I've committed myself to. Somedays I'm only home often enough to sleep. So I can understand life gets busy and not all of us have time to grind inf to fund these kinds of expensive builds and this is a logical solution for the casual gamer. My intention was not to make your "hard work" outside of the game seem less valuable than mine or anyone elses for that matter.

3. Of course you have every right to purchase IO's that are introduced to the market and no doubt many will, I was only trying to express MY disappointment at the thought of how long it took me to gather the purples for my Warshade that now they'd be suddenly available for purchase? As a casual player, this took me quite a long time. Maybe I'm doing it wrong but either way It was a lot of my spare time invested over a long course.

It is better that they make these available for purchase from a logical and business standpoint and I agree. Rather the money go back into the game than into the inf farmers pockets and I get that, its not beyond my scope of understanding. Regardless I can't help but be a little bummed about this situation.

At any rate, I apologize for any frustration caused. Back to the PB builds!

Maybe Psychic Rep can make "Team THB" and "Team Dechs" t-shirts . You'll see them on every ex-twilight fan that just finished the Hunger Games novels only to eventually be retired next to their "Team Jacob" and "Team Edward" shirts. HAH.

THB you're Cap, Dechs is Iron Man. Not a groundbreaking analogy but its the one I'm going with.

I don't want to see the time I've invested suddenly feel all for nought with the introduction of purples to the market. This makes me think about un-subscribing, but I know i'll probably get over it in the coming months.

I'll echo this, it just wouldn't be the same without AIB there for our future 3 kheld endeavors.

That being said, I should make another kheld on Protector so I can get back on the KF train.

Thanks again THB for hosting all the shenanigans and organizing the event, and to everyone who came out!. It was a lot of fun, I just wish I could have stuck around after.

Thanks Dechs. Really happy bout how this one turned out. A real gem. Easily my fav for this toon.

.4 seconds really? And thats if were going by mids numbers alone. I can't see that making any difference outside of an solo av fight which i suppose is why you feel its more important on a scrapper. Either way this chain is seamless , at least on game which is all that matters. Im not infront my computer to view the build but assuming thb hasn't changed his slotting in sb, grav well and essence drain then i can assume this is still true because i run the same chain with almost identical slotting and level of recharge.

Explosive strike or Impeded Swiftness procs are cheaper alternatives if need be. Smashing damage, albeit much, much more resisted than toxic is still a good slot holder until you can acquire the pvp io. Just my 2 inf.