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Quote:Awesome, now we can start complaining about Psi Melee's release date.Originally Posted by Alpha Wolf
Staff Fighting is out!
Can I have a cookie?
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Did candy begin to pour out of his carcass as several children rejoiced and scurried towards the sugary contents?
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Yeah, also forgot its a toggle so there's no way to Perma DS. That's a shame. Still, its the only power of its kind in CoH so it's neat.
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Do you still maintain aggro if phased with DS? For example, drop DS in the air above Lord Recluse in STF, have flying tank keep taunting while popping in and out of DS. Success?
Have considered some other uses for this, dropping it on people caught in oblit beam during Keyes, dropping it to set up a safe zone for MoM purple patches or Penny Yin psi dot room, safe zone for Tyrants massive lightning attack during Magisterium trial, other things I can't think of at 330 in the morning. -
With the recent adjustment to the SBE, proc rate is now around 25%. That's still a slight improvement over the IO at 20%.
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Even on a basic T2 8 second blast, decimation procs at around 14%, 3 times better than the IO version at 5%. I guess I'll just enjoy it until someone makes a stink about it and it gets dropped to .5PPM.
Once again though, my main issue really isn't the nerf itself but rather the business side of this whole fiasco.
Even after Synapse made mention that PS was providing an unintentional benefit, it continued to be sold in the Paragon Market. You think every player reads the forums? Let alone a single comment
on a thread in the Market and Inventions subforum? That one single comment is the only red name response I have heard on this whole issue. It's been days since I PM'd Zwill about it with no reply. I almost get the impression that they've been advised to make no comments on this matter while it's swept under the rug. -
Quote:I don't think it's anymore outrageous than 100% hide from Stalker SATO in AS or 53% chance for build up with decimation SBE proc in stalk/scrap Epic Pool holds. So how are we supposed to know what the devs consider outrageous before we make a purchase?Originally Posted by Reppu
That. You knew it was way over the top. You could have easily guessed this was not working as intended. And logically, you INITIALLY bought it for one of two reasons.
1) An easy Performance Shifter
2) You heard from a friend it had 3 PPM and knew EVERY well that was outrageous.
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Quote:PS was at 3PPM while the IO is at 20%. There are several other SBEs with these same numbers. I don't see this trend ending as they introduce more SBEs (Ragnarok SBE on beta is also 3 PPM with 20% on IO). How can PS be an issue and the others not?Originally Posted by UberGuy
However, while I have sympathy for your situation, I don't have empathy with it. All the PPM procs have a tendency to be better than "standard" ones, but Performance Shifters were so much better as to raise red flags immediately when I saw them. I had every expectation the devs would adjust them, and would have been absolutely floored if they had not.. -
Quote:Well said. Even if there is something in the EULA that protects them in this scenario, it's still a very dishonest practice.Originally Posted by JakHammer
To be less wordy - this sucks.
Jak
Eventhough the community may go back and forth whether the sale of PPM procs is a good idea or not, I don't think anyone would disagree about how lousy this Performance Shifter situation has been handled. -
Quote:Yes, store bought Performance Shifter proc was dropped from 3 PPM to 1.5 PPM. This was noted in the patch notes and no red name has issued any response to this situation.Originally Posted by graystar_blaster
Just so i know. I am not sure if its been commented on and i cannot see a post from a red name as i did on page one.
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Quote:That's for single target attacks only. When it comes to AoE, well, no one really knows the exact formula being used. The recent patch introduced a change in the formula for cone attacks which is what I'm referring to.Originally Posted by Trilby
Yes, but remember how procs per minute work.
5PPM goes off base recharge time. 12x5=60. So really we should see no change.
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Quote:The lawyer comment was obviously a joke as in the following line I said "but seriously". I probably spent around 7 bucks on these for multiple characters so it's not a huge loss, but the monetary value is not my main concern with this issue. My concern is Paragon's business practices and the precedence they are setting. Eventhough it's only approx 7 dollars I can't help but feel like I've been robbed.Originally Posted by Ironblade
Since I have never bought an enhancement of any type from the Paragon Market, can someone tell me what these Performance Shifters cost? I'm curious as to whether this lawyer comment is as stupid as I suspect.
What if next week I bought points, purchase Staff Melee, then call my bank and put a stop payment on my Paragon Pounts purchase? You think they'd be completely okay with this? Of course not, but yet, I'm supposed to be okay with what they did?
I understand that those who did not purchase these could care less about what I'm saying, but try to look at the big picture and focus on the business aspect of this entire ordeal. -
The fact that they exist doesn't bother me. It's the way that the incident is being handled that bothers me. Honestly, I really don't even know who to contact for this type of issue as it really isn't something that has happened before. As the community's liaison to Paragon, I figured I'd start with Zwillinger but that's been a bust so far. If not Zwill then who? A lawyer?
But seriously, at this point I really don't expect anything, but as a paying customer I woud appreciate ANY type of response. This whole 'let's just pretend it never happened' stance is very cowardly and somewhat surprising for a developer who's been good about keeping its community in the loop. -
There's definitely been a reduction in proc rate otherwise it would not have been mentioned in official patch notes. I tested this for a good 40 or so minutes last night in Beta using the SoA SATO and the new Ragnarok knockdown SBE at 3 PPM.
I went to Cimerora and ran the wall over and over. With the procs in Heavy Burst I would see on average 2 feared and 1-2 knocked down. It used to be much higher. On Venom Grenade I see a near 100% fear and about 5-6 knocked down on average. Also you're probably seeing better performance in your Suppresion since its at 16 second recharge ad opposed to 12 on Heavy Burst. Venom Grenade is on a 20 second recharge which also explains the big performance difference. However, I assumed since HB is a cone and VG is spherical, cone would have a better proc rate, it seems this is no longer the case.
The more I play with the SoA proc in VG the more I like it though. It makes sense to apply mez on your opener. Also, on AV fights I never use Heavy Burst so the -15 dmg would never come in to play. Now that it's in VG the debuff is up pretty much all the time on AVs. Also this debuff is unresistable so even on +3 trial AVs your SoA debuff is doing the same as Benumb after resistances. Not bad. -
Quote:To me it sounds like they're just moving forward with the entire idea. However, they did not like the oversight of Performance Shifter SBE proc and passive endurance powers synergizing so well together. Only thing is that now the SBE is terrible in any other powers so it's pointless.Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei
I guess they have not determined what to do.
I like to think that this was an isolated incident and will not happen again in the future (I know that sounds silly).
I'm still very unhappy about how the whole thing was handled and how there's no way get any refund on this. I PM'd Zwill about it and have yet to hear a response. -
Moved SATO proc around due to the recent change of SATO's in cone powers. Replaced it with a Lady Grey dmg proc in HB.
Mainly posting this update for a friend interested in seeing the current build.
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Jinrazuo: Level 50 Natural Arachnos Soldier
Primary Power Set: Crab Spider Soldier
Secondary Power Set: Crab Spider Training
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Single Shot- (A) Apocalypse - Damage: Level 50
- (3) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (3) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (5) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (5) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 50
- (7) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff: Level 14
- (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All): Level 17
- (7) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 16
- (37) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection: Level 30
- (A) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (9) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (9) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (11) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (11) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
- (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
- (A) HamiO:Centriole Exposure
- (13) HamiO:Centriole Exposure
- (13) HamiO:Centriole Exposure
- (15) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage: Level 50
- (15) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy): Level 33
- (17) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff: Level 11
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 25
- (17) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
- (19) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- (A) Ragnarok - Damage: Level 50
- (19) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (21) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (21) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown: Level 50
- (23) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (23) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Recharge/Chance for -Dmg and Terrorize: Level 50
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
- (25) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range: Level 50
- (25) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance: Level 50
- (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
- (A) HamiO:Centriole Exposure
- (27) HamiO:Centriole Exposure
- (27) HamiO:Centriole Exposure
- (29) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (29) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy): Level 47
- (31) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff: Level 11
- (A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff: Level 50
- (31) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 50
- (31) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (33) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (33) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance: Level 50
- (A) Flight Speed IO: Level 50
- (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance: Level 40
- (33) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 40
- (34) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
- (34) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 25
- (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
- (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 50
- (36) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
- (36) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (37) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (A) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (43) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (43) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range: Level 50
- (50) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage: Level 50
- (37) Soulbound Allegiance - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (39) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (39) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up: Level 50
- (39) Edict of the Master - Defense Bonus: Level 40
- (45) Call to Arms - Defense Bonus Aura for Pets: Level 30
- (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (40) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (40) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (40) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (42) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (42) Sovereign Right - Resistance Bonus: Level 40
- (A) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold: Level 50
- (A) Hecatomb - Damage: Level 50
- (45) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (46) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (46) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 50
- (46) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (48) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (48) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (48) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (50) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (50) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets: Level 50
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: Marshal
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon
Level 50: Degenerative Radial Flawless Interface
Level 50: Vorpal Core Final Judgement
Level 50: Robotic Drones Core Superior Ally
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Level 1: Brawl- (A) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 50
- (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (A) Flight Speed IO: Level 50
- (A) Jumping IO: Level 50
- (A) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 20
- (42) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 30
- (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 43
- (43) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (45) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 48
Level 4: Ninja Run
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From the most recent patch notes:
Fixing a bug that was causing proc per minute enhancements to proc too often in cone powers.
I find that the SoA proc doesn't go off nearly as often anymore in Heavy Burst. I'm really not sure how bad they nerfed it, but I don't like performance on it now. On beta, I've swapped it over to Venom Grenade and find that it goes off a lot more often on VG. Also, testing the knew Ragnarok Knockdown PPM proc on beta, I'm finding that it goes off a LOT on VG in comparison to HB again.
Not sure what they did to the formula with cones but I'm finding much better numbers on spherical AoE now. I'm gonna have to move this over to VG now. On the upside, considering how often SoA proc and Ragnarok PPM proc go off, VG is going to be a helluva opener. -RES and either KD or Fear or both. Ouch. I like it. -
There's also a slight chance that this might have happened.
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Quote:Well to be honest, the majority of the times I'm at +75% on full stack after I drop my Venom Grenade opener, if not then I'm definitely at max after my next attack from Heavy Burst. So depending on your attack chain, you're very likely going to be at +75%. I've been testing a lot on Beta recently and it's very uncommon for me to be below max stack during missions/street sweeping. Have you actually tested it our yourself?Originally Posted by Yorukira
Stop saying that we'll have 75% +dmg. That only in perfect condition, Is better to look at it as his average over his optimal state. The chances you will be able to have a average of 200% +dmg are very low.
How much extra resist are you getting from Cardiac? I seem to remember it not being a whole whole lot when I had Fortification and Tough. If you go Vigor/Melee however, not only are you getting the End redux, but also the +Regen from Melee bumps up to 43%/stack up from 30%. This itself may be a more ideal route for added durability.Quote:Originally Posted by Linea_AlbaI tend to Main Tank a good deal, so in turn I need hp replacement. That's aid self, rebirth, or melee.
To solo +4x8 incarnate content, I'm gonna need a bit more defense, that's melee, and maybe Agility or Vigor, but probably Cardiac since I have resist shields too. -
Worst...update...ever.
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Quote:He's only offering fishing lessons at this point.Originally Posted by Trilby
Because I dont want to copy your build. It won't fit my playstyle and I have exactly what I want from my build. I am just curious as to what 26 bil got you.
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Liger/Lion didn't go live till around almost 0500 PST last week.
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Quote:Like all pbaoe buff toggles, pets and player characters are all considered targets. There is no difference. So yes, you will affects others pets BUT Support Core affects 24 targets max so it becomes pretty limiting especially when you start teaming with other MMs and so on.Also, the radius is only 50' which is smaller than Spider leadership powers at 60'.Originally Posted by Dark Energon
Why? With all due respect, but, nothing about my numbers will help you with your own build, nor will it help me with picking which, if any, Hybrid power.
All i wanna know is if the Core version for the Support tree affects ALL pets, including other player's pets, or only my own pets. -
I was protective of my build too, but then I remembered its just a game and got over myself.
I've noticed that people don't normally copy builds but use them as guidelines and make their own customizations to them anyway. -
I'm considering swapping Musculature for Cardiac now. Musc adds about 30% dmg to all my enhancements but Assault Core adds 75% at max cap so I'm looking at a profit of 45% dmg. Going to Cardiac means I won't need to rely on Ageless to sustain endurance with Musc/Assault. On the other hand, I really don't rely on Destiny a whole lot so I may just stay with that combo and be closer to damage cap.
The -Def and Immob on Musculature is nice, but it's not something that is remotely a deal breaker.
Once again, unless Support gets a major buff, I don't see think it's very worthwhile. I know it's tempting to take it so you can claim the title of 'TRIPLE LEADERSHIP!' but I just can't justify it in its current state.